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pretty flower PART B RESPONSE
FINALLY the PA and one other person (possibly the one who had taken my vitals --- and she had announced "Wow! Your numbers are really high!") appeared in front of me. Made me more apprehensive after what the PA had attempted to do to my right nostril. With no word of apology for what had transpired, he said that perhaps the blocker that he had tried in the right nostril was "too large" so he had with him a "much smaller one" for the left nostril. "It WILL stop the bleeding" he urged. I told him that my left nostril has ALWAYS been sensitive and painful and said I'd cooperate as well as possible but that if told him to STOP that he had to do so IMMEDIATELY. He agreed, then started the insertion, which got blocked by my deviated septum. I clenched my fists as he attempted to re-direct and insert it and FINALLY IT WAS WHERE HE EVIDENTLY WANTED IT TO BE. He explained that he was going to "pump air" to inflate the "balloon." The idea chilled me but I consented. I soon felt intense pain as the "balloon" pressed against sinus cavity tissue and in turn that set off the nerves in my face and left eye. Since he had not asked questions about anything he should be aware of, he didn't know that he had ignited nerve pain in my face and eye, also into my temple area and into my left ear. I told him to remove it, to get it OUT, but he said he couldn't. The "nurse" evidently had reached the end of her rope at this point and told me I was going to be sent by ambulance to another hospital. "NO! I'm leaving with my husband and HE will take me to N---- Westchester Hospital ER where I can get help!" So she placed a form in front of me and asked me to sign. I told her I couldn't read the form (which had sentences followed by lines and "blanks") because I did not have my readers. In a terse, nasty tone, she pointed to a line and said "Just sign here!" Against my better judgement, I did so b/c I wanted to LEAVE the incompetency and what I was being put through. (I later found out that my signature indicated that I was signing out "against medical advice" which not only was a LIE but also ILLEGAL since I'd had no idea what I was signing, AND also NO "advice" had been given, I just got the cold impression that she wanted me out of their ER). I was wheeled out in silence, where my very worried husband had sat for the 3 1/2 hours that I'd been in the ER area. (He had repeatedly asked to be let in but kept being denied entry, with no reason offered.) Without a word, she stomped off, leaving me in the wheelchair unattended while my husband went to bring his car to the area in front of the exit/entry. Despite my pain, I sensed that she was glad to be rid of me...and she was indeed in a nasty, haughty mood. My husband took me to the other ER, where I was attended to IMMEDIATELY and attentively. Unfortunately, the PA there could not remove what I later learned is called a Rocket, from my throbbing left nasal cavity, and there was no ENT available BUT she called one in private practice who agreed to see me immediately. My husband drove me there (a 40 minute drive one way) and the otolaryngologist was wonderfully calm, patient, CARING, and not only removed several medium to large blood clots from my throat and nasal-pharangeal area (they had been obstructing my breathing and swallowing), but she also extracted the Rocket!!! Then she cauterized the area in my left cavity. I was so happy and relieved that I cried tears of joy. She comforted me and then gave me clear instructions on how to deal with any possible other bleeds, giving me the spray required; taught me how to make a "nasal dam" and placed one one me; then told me that I need not worry because she has indeed encountered situations like mine before.... We left her office feeling grateful not only to her, but also to the PA in the second hospital ER that had made the arrangement for being seen the SAME DAY by this amazing doctor....Evidently ONLY an otolaryngologist can remove a Rocket because significant trauma/damage can occur if done without competency and knowledge (thus a PA can insert one but cannot remove it, and this doctor had concerns about the PA having inserted one into my obstructed nostril).

----PART C TO FOLLOW------------

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pretty flower PART C (AND LAST SECTION) RESPONSE

I've since had three more episodes, but was better prepared for dealing with each. Scary and unnerving just the same. For the last one (the 4th, this past Friday evening) my husband drove to the county trauma center just before 10 PM, and I was attended to by an experienced, knowledgeable PA, and given the phone number for the Dept of Otolaryngology at that teaching hospital. This morning (Monday) I am placing the call, happy to have that avenue because not ONE of the ENTs in our town and surrounding area was willing to see me, telling me "....you need to be seen by a trauma specialist..." Well, that's what happened Friday night! And that hospital is rated the TOP trauma center in the county...

I am appalled that not ONE doctor within the ENT departments of medical groups within my town and surrounding areas is interested in dealing with the kind of situation that has happened to me. What does that say about them?.....And where does that leave people like me, faced with such frightening experiences? I cannot travel to another state or into NYC so that seriously leaves me with little to no options. I'm praying that the teaching hospital whose trauma ER attended to me on Friday night will prove helpful. I had actually been informed that no, would not see me UNLESS I WAS NOT BLEEDING....But my past experiences with several ENTs had left me underwhelmed, with my nasal issues not addressed...

I still worry about a possible growth of some kind, just as what happened to your husband. He is so fortunate to have had knowledgeable PROFESSIONALS who take responsibility instead of shrugging a patient off to someone else. Trust me when I say that the survey that I was sent to fill out for that 1st nasal bleeding episode, had my entire focused account of how incompetently and unprofessionally that ER had treated a 75 year old woman who was left unattended for periods of time and not allowed to have her husband to be with her..... Yes, I filed a complaint with the head of the ER department, along with a copy to the head of the hospital.

I have included your husband in my prayers, that he may get wonderful news this summer!

God bless you both, and again mil gracias for making time to write to me. You are appreciated, just as are the other members on this incredible site. 💝🙏🏽