Husband diagnosed with tonsil cancer: looking for tips and support

Posted by joy345 @joy345, Jun 24, 2023

I am writing for my husband who was recently diagnose with Tonsil Cancer. He finished the biopsy and PET scan but we do not know what stage is his cancer. The hospital we are in and ENT Dr. will not performed surgery and we were informed by phone of 6 weeks of radiation and 3 cycles of Chemo. We will know details with the oncology and radiology later this week. We will be seeing another Dr. for second opinion.

I feel bad we do not know the stage of his cancer and other details on the treatment. My husband is depressed for this was unexpected. He was told its only inflammation on his lymph nodes and the biopsy confirmed to be SCC(Squamous Cell Carcinoma). As the caregiver, I am hoping this forum/discussions will provide us encouragement and suggestions/help on the treatment he will be having.

I am new to this group.
Thank you for understanding.

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Head & Neck Cancer Support Group.

@hrhwilliam

Hello @johnbonani John and welcome to the Head and Neck group. There are as many differing opinions both medical and patient as there are cases of head and neck cancer. A couple of big questions is where located, what type (such as Squamous Cell and sub type such as HPV16+) as well as how extensive for example stage 1. You have stage three which means it is either a large single spot or has invaded nearby areas.
We all try to avoid radiation if we can due to the after effects, particularly in head and neck. There are now drugs that can clear up remains after surgery for some sub types of SSC. Proton Radiation is far more accurate and less destructive to surrounding tissue and body parts. Its also more expensive (not at Mayo but at most centers) and it is usually only in one or two cities in any given state in the US. Photon is done everywhere. You would be surprised.
I can give you my opinion but your doctors would or should know best, provided they have your best interests at heart. Only you can determine that.
Let's see who else pops in here and by the way, you will get much better feedback if you open a Discussion of your own, which lights up on the screen of those who follow the Head and Neck group on connect. Nothing wrong with where you posted, just better results on your own discussion for future posts. It can be kind of complicated for us old guys.
If radiation is the answer, its a fight you can win. Just not a fight anyone would want to have. Courage.

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Thank you, William. Yes indeed I did open a separate discussion and hopefully will receive some responses. I will also post a few more of the details like you suggest hopefully that will help. This forum is a wonderful resource!

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@hrhwilliam

Hello @johnbonani John and welcome to the Head and Neck group. There are as many differing opinions both medical and patient as there are cases of head and neck cancer. A couple of big questions is where located, what type (such as Squamous Cell and sub type such as HPV16+) as well as how extensive for example stage 1. You have stage three which means it is either a large single spot or has invaded nearby areas.
We all try to avoid radiation if we can due to the after effects, particularly in head and neck. There are now drugs that can clear up remains after surgery for some sub types of SSC. Proton Radiation is far more accurate and less destructive to surrounding tissue and body parts. Its also more expensive (not at Mayo but at most centers) and it is usually only in one or two cities in any given state in the US. Photon is done everywhere. You would be surprised.
I can give you my opinion but your doctors would or should know best, provided they have your best interests at heart. Only you can determine that.
Let's see who else pops in here and by the way, you will get much better feedback if you open a Discussion of your own, which lights up on the screen of those who follow the Head and Neck group on connect. Nothing wrong with where you posted, just better results on your own discussion for future posts. It can be kind of complicated for us old guys.
If radiation is the answer, its a fight you can win. Just not a fight anyone would want to have. Courage.

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Check out my new post entitled "Just Diagnosed with Tonsil Cancer - How to Treat?"

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@beenthere22

My 67 year old husband was diagnosed with stage 2 tonsil cancer in August, 2022. It was an HPV 16 based cancer so it was very treatable. He had the same treatment plan you mentioned—35 radiation sessions and chemo once a week for seven weeks.

What we learned: do what the doctors tell you to do. For example, get a port put in his chest to make chemo, blood tests and hydration easier. My husband had supplemental hydration sessions three times a week through his port. It hurt a lot to swallow and became impossible after four weeks of treatment. When he lost 15 pounds, they recommended a feeding tube. It sounds scary but it was the best thing he did because he was able to receive badly needed nutrition to help him heal. You may have to try a couple different formulas to find what works best for him. As soon as we got him properly hydrated and fed, he looked so much better and he recovered well. He lost thirty pounds total but has gained some of it back. He had the stomach tube for six weeks. He developed mucositis by the end of treatment. Get him a suction machine to help with this. Our ordeal was about six months from diagnosis to receiving a “no cancer found result” on his PET scan. Permanent side effects - He lost part of his ability to taste food and his salivary glands did not come back. And he cannot grow a full face beard - just a Van Dyke mustache and small chin beard.
He feels this is a small price to pay for being cancer free.

Every two months his ENT scopes his throat for any thing suspicious and his cancer center also follows him closely with scans, MRIs and blood tests.

In 2023, we did three major trips to Panama, Europe, and Australia. So there is life after cancer.

Hang in there, your husband will recover. Take care of yourself.

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Was it still hard to eat and swallow a couple weeks after treatment was over?
I just wondered when his mouth wouldn’t be so dry, he rinses with baking soda and salt throughout the day but doesn’t really help, he has to get up in the night to rinse also.

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@cris2

Was it still hard to eat and swallow a couple weeks after treatment was over?
I just wondered when his mouth wouldn’t be so dry, he rinses with baking soda and salt throughout the day but doesn’t really help, he has to get up in the night to rinse also.

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Hi @cris2 That is about normal two to four weeks out. Swallowing requires the use of about fifty small muscles including the tongue and some of these probably are not working well, at least for a while. Stick to soft foods and nothing dry like white rice or white meat chicken. No bread at least for a few months.
Keep up the mouth rinses as they help prevent mouth sores and infections. Healing will be extra slow. That radiation is nasty stuff as it doesn’t attack just the cancer.
Dry mouth to some extent might last for years. He will need a water bottle all of the time.
We do learn to live again. The alternative is not a good one. It can be depressing for a while but it won’t last forever. Courage.

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@kelsokelly

I had stage 4 throat cancer 13 years ago now I have tonsil cancer .
I will need stomach feeding tube to gain weight to be able to endre radiation and chemo.
No worries mate . ENJOY EVERY DAY ...

until thin ....
kelso kelly

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@kelsokelly, what a gut punch to get diagnosed with another cancer 13 years later. Is the tonsil cancer a metastasis of throat cancer or a secondary primary cancer?

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@johnbonani

Hi all. I've just been diagnosed with stage three tosil cancer on Feb 22nd. 63 year old male. Have seen the surgical oncologist and the radiology oncologist, both present the pro's and con's of each, both sound terrible and my head is spinning. Both recommend there own procedure and essentially leave it up to me the patient to decide. I'm wondering if some of you in this discussion have had surgery then radiation, just radiation or combination?

Any input would be greatly appreciated 🙂 - John B

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Hello @johnbonani. It is very hard to get hit with this kind of information and try to research and make sense of it and of all things then form a treatment plan. My cancer was ear, not tonsil, but I am still alive 12 years later after surgery, chemo, radiation, and 4 metastases. I have had close contact with a handful of tonsil survivors via an immune therapy clinic I attend. Whether or not your cancer is HPV related or not makes a difference in response to treatment. Surgery was the chosen option for the folks I know, and two of them followed with radiation. Radiation can be tough and leave you with more side effects, though as William said, Proton beam is a much better option where available. The man who chose not to do radiation had a recurrence years later. That said, every person is different, and every treatment protocol can be different and only your own doctor knows what is best for you. Gather information. Ask for a second opinion. Pursue travel to a large referral cancer center or teaching hospital. Consider a video visit for a second opinion. My choices for myself have been surgery first, than whatever is needed after that. Do you have a cancer center close enough to consider travel?

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@sepdvm

Hello @johnbonani. It is very hard to get hit with this kind of information and try to research and make sense of it and of all things then form a treatment plan. My cancer was ear, not tonsil, but I am still alive 12 years later after surgery, chemo, radiation, and 4 metastases. I have had close contact with a handful of tonsil survivors via an immune therapy clinic I attend. Whether or not your cancer is HPV related or not makes a difference in response to treatment. Surgery was the chosen option for the folks I know, and two of them followed with radiation. Radiation can be tough and leave you with more side effects, though as William said, Proton beam is a much better option where available. The man who chose not to do radiation had a recurrence years later. That said, every person is different, and every treatment protocol can be different and only your own doctor knows what is best for you. Gather information. Ask for a second opinion. Pursue travel to a large referral cancer center or teaching hospital. Consider a video visit for a second opinion. My choices for myself have been surgery first, than whatever is needed after that. Do you have a cancer center close enough to consider travel?

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Thank you Sue. It is HPV related and yes we do have a good cancer center close by. We are very close to making the decision and leaning towards radiation/chemo. In part because while my surgical oncologist has described the TORS as do-able in my case it's also described as complex and will definitely require radiation afterward and he's unable to say if we could get away with a lower dose of radiation or not. My radiology oncologist does offer proton beam, not that that makes me feel a whole lot better but at this point leaning towards the radiology route.

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@stephenrfleury

I had SCC on the base of my tongue and a couple of lymph nodes in the fall of 2020. I had chemo and proton radiation, since have had multiple cleans scans.

I wrote a blog during my experience (non-revenue generating) if you would like to review it. You can read it at:

https://stevefleurysblog.com/2020/10/29/part-1-the-beginning/

More importantly, my wife wrote a wonderfully insightful post of lists and non-advice advice.

https://stevefleurysblog.com/2021/01/05/lists-and-non-advice-advice/

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Steve, I just read your entire blog! Out of all the mountains of information I've been consuming since my diagnosis of tonsil cancer 4 weeks ago your blog was the most helpful for me. Thank you and I will use your experience as inspiration to get through my own which will begin soon.

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@cris2

The last month been a nightmare. My husband is 78 and has tonsil cancer. He’s always had good checkups, tests were always good and he’s never sick so this is a shock. Our life now is stressful and we’re scared. The dr said the plan is chemo and radiation to knock this out, he’s stage 2 so they say it’s treatable . I’m so worried.

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I'm glad that it helped. It's a tough journey but you'll make it through it. You just have to grind it out day by day.

Good luck! Let me know if I can help.

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@hrhwilliam

I know you are worried. This will all take a while to get better. 1000 calories is good if he isn't active. I am sure food, if it tastes at all, doesn't taste good. 7-UP or milkshakes perhaps. He is most likely depressed and feels like crap. I had tea at the Ritz in London since I was in his shoes so life does get better.

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Do you know how long it takes before the weight goes back on, he’s been eating good now for a month and only 4lbs up, we thought it would be more. He lost almost 30 lbs.

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