What is doc looking for with a Bone Marrow Biopsy?

Posted by doglover2 @doglover2, Mar 10 12:39pm

Platelets slowly rising since 2021. I'm a 66 yr old female and they are currently at 583. All mutaion tests were negative. Doc has ordered bone marrow biopsy (I'm scared!). I am otherwise healthy, no symptoms, working, quite active. Can anyone share what he might be. looking for and what questions I should be asking? Thank you so much for your time.
Cindy

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@pmm

@doglover2 welcome to Mayo Connect. Bone marrow biopsies sound scary and many of our members in the blood disorders group have had one or more to either diagnose or check for progression of a broad list of blood disorders, or to rule them out.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/bone-marrow-biopsy/about/pac-20393117
Once your procedure is over, you will have better information about your health.
I jot down questions I have for my hematologist/oncologist and make sure that he answers them all before any procedure. If I’m not going to see him before, I call. I try not to sit with my anxiety. And I try to stay off of Dr. Google. Dr. Google is such a pessimist… Mostly gives you worse case scenarios.
I would love to hear back from you to hear about your experience with your bone marrow biopsy. When is your Biopsy scheduled?

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I won’t lie, mine hurt bad. They couldn’t numb me so I laid on my side and he had a huge needle he hammered into my hip bone. He was needing fluid to test for leukemia. My platelets were 1.2 million. They are still high. Anyway he apologized said he had to do it again he didn’t get any. I said I will come back he said no you won’t so we did it again. I won’t again. He ends up telling me it is ET and take an aspirin a day and after I go through menopause come back. It’s been 19 years. I have busting headaches everyday. I didn’t do hormones during menopause. I just did what my Mom and Grandma did. Suffered through it. I’m starting to have issues with circulation, lost 40 pounds, tired, my neck veins are bulging but it could be from the weight loss. When I first found out my platelets were high my Dr sent me to a cancer place in Memphis. These ladies all were so sick I was embarrassed for even being there. I heard the Dr laughing outside my door when she looked at my chart. Just make sure you take a friend or family member to have a hand to squeeze. You will be ok. By the way, you don’t happen to have RH Neg blood factor do you?

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@timt347

Because blood cells are made in the bone marrow, a bone marrow biopsy is a way of going straight to the source in order to get the highest possible quality of diagnostic information. I would expect that the sample will be examined by a pathologist using a microscope. DNA will be extracted from certain cells and analyzed.

Getting a bone marrow biopsy is not something you would want to do as a hobby, but it is doable. They use a lot of lidocaine (a local anesthetic), and they probably will offer you other medications too to make it easier for you. I have had a half dozen or so. Afterwards, it makes a good story you can use to impress your friends.

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They didn’t offer me nothing and all he said was we can’t numb your bones nothing at all. And I had to do it twice. If you have ever had children just keep telling yourself I can do this. I had my first child naturally I couldn’t with my second birth. They were twins. You got this.

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@katgob

I was asked to participate in a study. Taing Itacitinib as a way to help with the graft vs host disease. There are 20 patients in this study. One is for 60 days and one for 90. I looked it up and found info on National library of medicine. It is late, so i will read it tomorrow. This hospital lives to do research like this. My only question will be if this drug affects my blood for the long term. Once time has passed, I want to donate blood or platelets again. If all heals well, I could.
He was talking about this is my call with him. I would have preferred a video visit, bit my blood draw took too long. He spoke of a drug that is to work to make the GVHD less likely to be a problem.

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Good morning, @katgob, it’s great you’re participating in a study. I was in several myself. It’s our way of being able to assist in the forward growth of cancer treatments.

Graft vs Host Disease or GVHD is a side effect of a bone marrow transplant. To help you understand what that is a little clearer, when a person has a solid organ transplant, they will be on immunosuppressants (anti-rejection drugs) for the rest of their life so that their immune system doesn’t reject the organ.
When we a bone marrow transplant, we’re getting someone else’s immune system (the graft) and it wants to reject our body (the host). It looks as our body as an invading organism and wants to do what any healthy immune system does…take out the offender! Eventually, we are able to get off immunosuppressants as our new immune system learns to recognize the foreign proteins in our body. But in the meantime, it can create some issues and the new graft needs to be suppressed or held back from being hyper active for a while.
That’s where the Itacitinib comes into play. It is an immunosuppressant used for mild GVHD. This will be a really good trial for you to be involved in.

I strongly suggest not reading too much information about the drugs you’ll be taking. I know knowledge is power but in this case, reading about these meds can put fear in you that isn’t warranted.

As for donating blood in the future. That you’ll have to check with your doctor. My transplant doctor told me that is off the table for me. I cannot donate blood or blood products.

@katgob, we should move our conversations out of this discussion about bone marrow biopsies, over to this discussion about Bone Marrow Transplant stories. I’m going to copy and past this reply over there so we can keep it in the right place.

See you over here! https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/my-bone-marrow-transplant-bmt-story-will-you-share-yours/

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I had a bone marrow test when I was 14 and it was no big deal for me. I am assuming it was a biopsy as leukemia was suspected. That was negative but I do have a form of leukemia today. Mine was done only with a local (I was told red soap) and was on the front iliac crest. The problem was that I had been given a large shot of penicillin in the back of that hip the day before so the downward pressure on that caused major discomfort. The biopsy itself did not hurt. Maybe I had a very skilled doctor. Or I did not know what was going on so did not anticipate any pain.

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@katgob

Lori,
I talked with my Dr today and we are at a go ahead. All tests came out well. Luminary, Stress, EKG, CT and Echo. Blood panels too. I have about 4 nodules in my lungs. Two from 2021. They did not say serious, I will ask about those. Oddly, I remembered having a couple nodules and bad bronchitis years ago. I was told they could cause things like that. I have a few gallstones. CT scans are crazy. I will have to read the results again later. My Bone marrow biopsy but was not worse. My platelets though keep going down.
I also met with my new medical oncologist. She was called by my hematologist, and they talked. She actually knew my case and backed off the Zometa for my bones after learning about my transplant.
Sense of humor....I too believe it has saved me again and again. Truth, honesty and one day at a time.

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Can you tell me if doctors treat nodules you have? I have nodules in thyroid and lesions in my lungs. Doctors dismiss lesions and test nodules for cancer every 6 months but are unable to do anymore because of transportation my issues. Thank you, Pam

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Pam,
I have not been treated yet. My transplant Dr did not note them as a problem. I think his focus is my transplant. I will send the question to my new medical oncologist.
I know if we do not ask or advocate for services, they may not happen on a timely basis.

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@richardab

A bone marrow biopsy may be ordered to investigate abnormal bone marrow or blood conditions, cancers, infections of unknown origin, and, in very rare cases, a genetic condition resulting in the buildup of iron in the blood. Are you seeing a hematologist or a hematologist/oncologist; what has he or she told you is under investigation? Please, ask them, you should be privy to this information. Good luck. I've had them, they're not too bad.

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What does 'not too bad' mean? I'm having one on the 15th.

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I had a bone marrow biopsy in April 2021. After my blood platelets remained high, over 800 M, and some side pain, my hematologist did a variety of tests, such as CatScan, ultrasound, colonoscopy, more bloodwork, and finally the bone marrow biopsy. My side pain went away (probably muscle pain/coastal chondritis), and the bone marrow biopsy is what diagnosed my platelet problem. Age 69, I had developed a gene mutation and disease known as Essential Thrombocytosis. The bone marrow biopsy was not fun, but the doctor numbed the area above the hip on the back and took out some bone marrow by needle. He did it right the first time. It's painful and you need to have someone drive you home because of the drug. And I was exhausted when I got home. But that was the key to finding out what to do. Now I take hydroxy urea and my blood platelets are normal. I'd rather do this than find out suddenly by having a stroke or other clot problem because of the high platelet count that I had.

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Thanks for the reply. Still waiting on scheduling for my Bone Marrow Biopsy. In the meantime, doctor has asked for updated CBC, CMP and PTT. All seem to be normal and platelet count was down to 440. Do you think he will still go ahead with BMB? Looking back on blood work from the last ten years my platelets have hovered between 430 and 580. Other than that, no symptoms. I am 66 and only with my latest physical did doctor suggest seeing a hematologist/oncologist. He went right to biopsy. A
pparently I also test negative for all mutations.
Also, my platelet count appears to respond to Mediterranean diet. Low when I stick to it, higher when I don't.
Has anyone else found this or am I grasping at straws???

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@doglover2

Thanks for the reply. Still waiting on scheduling for my Bone Marrow Biopsy. In the meantime, doctor has asked for updated CBC, CMP and PTT. All seem to be normal and platelet count was down to 440. Do you think he will still go ahead with BMB? Looking back on blood work from the last ten years my platelets have hovered between 430 and 580. Other than that, no symptoms. I am 66 and only with my latest physical did doctor suggest seeing a hematologist/oncologist. He went right to biopsy. A
pparently I also test negative for all mutations.
Also, my platelet count appears to respond to Mediterranean diet. Low when I stick to it, higher when I don't.
Has anyone else found this or am I grasping at straws???

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Back to your initial question. I would ask the doctor why he or she wants the BMB. It is your right to be informed and not to just blindly do as told.

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