Worried about upcoming rheumatologist appointment

Posted by mas0415 @mas0415, Dec 2, 2023

I am 38 years old and have a long history of strange symptoms (going back 15+) years. Mostly struggling with skin rashes and GI issues. About 5 years ago I had a bad flare up and saw a rheumatologist who completely gaslighted me and left me in tears. She told me it was all in my head and I needed mental health support. I then went to a holistic practitioner and was able to gain some relief and told myself I was going to be fine. She treated me for an imbalance of gut bacteria. Fast forward to this year, I have developed a burning rash on my left arm that will not go away. I saw an allergist who told me it was not eczema and she could not help. In September I ended up in the emergency room with pericarditis. I have developed numbness and tingling in multiple extremities that they have yet to be able to pinpoint a source for. I had a MRI and EMG that shows a likely pinched nerve in my neck but does not explain the numbness in my feet. I have developed pain and inflammation in my knees, elbows, wrists, and feet. My elbows look and feel bruised and they have been like this for weeks. I saw a rehabilitation specialist who diagnosed me with multi site bilateral tendinitis and has put in a referral for a rheumatologist. I also recently developed mild Raynauds syndrome and livedo reticularis around my elbows. I am so tired all the time and have to force myself to continue to eat. My concern is that the blood work that was ordered at the time of this referral came back all normal besides elevated segs on my CBC. Negative RA factor, negative ANA, normal inflammation markers. I am so scared that the rheumatologist will just dismiss me once again. I don’t know what is going on but something is clearly wrong and I need help but I don't understand how nothing is showing up on my blood work. I don’t want to be sick, I don’t want a chronic illness, but I want someone to believe when I say I am having pain and can’t live like this. I just wonder if someone else may have had a similar experience where blood work “looks normal” but they were still able to get a diagnosis. I have added some pictures of my rash and joints. Thank you.

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@needanswers7

Would you please share the name of the Duke rheumatologist you are happy with? I live in that area and cannot find a doctor with AIED experience. I need someone stellar!! Thanks!

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He’s affiliated with Duke but is actually in Burlington at Kernodle Clinic West. His name is Dr. Mayur Patel and his office is at 1234 Huffman Mill Rd, Burlington NC. His phone is 336-506-1280.
And he is very good. He I s actually a PharmD as well as an MD - which seems really smart given that pharmaceuticals are the mainstay of immune disorders.

Good luck!! Tell them I referred you.

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@pb50

He’s affiliated with Duke but is actually in Burlington at Kernodle Clinic West. His name is Dr. Mayur Patel and his office is at 1234 Huffman Mill Rd, Burlington NC. His phone is 336-506-1280.
And he is very good. He I s actually a PharmD as well as an MD - which seems really smart given that pharmaceuticals are the mainstay of immune disorders.

Good luck!! Tell them I referred you.

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You are the BEST!! Thank you!

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Let us know what you find out. They think I have AIED but all my tests come back normal as well. Have sudden hearing loss, acid reflux and numbness in fingers and toes. Nose feels cold and like a string is wrapped around it at times. Prednisone only works for 2 weeks. Scared I’ll go deaf as hearing continues to deteriorate.

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@needanswers7

You are the BEST!! Thank you!

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You’re welcome. Let me know what your experience is with him.

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@mas0415

I wanted to offer an update, for anyone that was following…I saw a dermatologist in January that biopsied the red rash on my arm. When I went back for the results two weeks later she said that she had personally spoken to the pathologist because the report was unclear/ conflicting. They determined that they were going to call it psoriasis with overlaying eczema/ dermatitis. She gave me a biological cream to use and wanted me to start Rinvoq (jak inhibitor, I believe) based on my other symptoms. I had to get more blood work and wait for an approval process to happen to actually get this drug. In the meantime (I was left waiting for weeks to receive an update about this drug approval and the call actually came while I was at my rheumatologist appointment ironically), I got in to see the rheumatologist. He was very different then the one I saw years ago that treated me horribly and after reviewing my results and examining me, he stated that he does not believe that I have psoriasis whatsoever and that I am the clinical picture of Lupus. He was unbothered by my past negative ANA results and told me to not start the Rinvoq, he was prescribing me hydroxychloroquine. I have just started this medication and am feeling hopeful for the first time in a long time. I go back April 1st to see how I am responding. He said we will repeat the ANA at some point, he is slightly concerned that without a positive result he may be limited in treatment options. I have been battling a roller coaster of emotions but am just thankful that someone finally listened and named the beast that I have been battling for so long.
Thank again for the support that so many of you offered when I came here feeling desperate and overwhelmed. I never knew that strangers words could mean so much. ❤️

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I'm so glad you found someone to actually listen to your story. I did want to point out however, that at one point I had a positive ANA and was told I had Lupus. Then 6 months later, I was told that I couldn't have Lupus because I didn't have the classic rash on my face and my new bloodwork showed a negative ANA. That was 30 yrs ago and I still have a negative ANA and no lupus but still the same symptoms. My point is not to depress or discourage you. To the contrary, I am saying stick with your Dr. that listens, and if necessary fight as hard as you can for yourself so you don't end up like me, 30 yrs. from now. In researching my own case I realized that you do not have to have either the rash or a positive ANA to have lupus. You just need to do your research, put it in front of your doc, and never ever give up. I still haven't. I hope things go much easier for you.

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@jabrown0407

Where do you live? Is it in an area with a teaching hospital? If so you might consider seeing a doctor there - they might be better suited to help you. I agree that rheumatology is iffy at best. I have had vague and incomplete answers from the ones I have seen. I do my best to work with them because I actually have a problem that is in their wheelhouse, however little is known about it and the most common reply I get is "every patient is different".
Doctors in practice not a part of a teaching environment are less prepared to work with patients that do not have mainstream problems. Insurance companies have seen to it that your appointment is short, targeted and with an assumption that there is a medicine that can be Rx-ed once the tests reveal the problem.
Mayo Clinic has a referral service as does Cleveland Clinic and I suspect several other major medical schools offer the same type service. I would think that consulting services would enable you to have them see you but have your local doctors treat you. My experience is that teaching environments are open to consulting with another specialty whereas that mind set is uncommon in the private practice world.
I have been fighting multiple problems for years, brought on by an adverse reaction to a vaccination 5 years ago. It is not easy to unwind the symptoms to find a treatable problem.
I have had 95% of the tests to come back normal - yet not one doctor has ever said I am well, or it is in my mind - they agree the problems are real, but finding solutions is difficult.
BTW - I had a doctor 50 years ago tell me that menstrual cramps were in my mind - I was denying my childbearing role in society. He said it was all in my mind, needed mental eval. He was wrong - I was right. You know how you feel. Walk away from any doctor who you believe is not helping you.

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JA Brown - I agree with all you said!
Especially re longtime doctors- especially Rheumatologist!
My experience exactly! (Palo Alto, CA) God bless us all! Donna
Good luck

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mas0415 I know this will sound crazy - but a couple of years ago I had a hysterectomy and it cleared up my IBS-D as well as eliminated the massive hip girdle pain that my rheumatologist attributed to PMR and did not believe me that it was not the classic pain of PMR. It was first identified thru an MRI taken in the ER when my pain compelled me to go in. A vaginal sonagram confirmed the existence of several tumors that needed to be removed ASAP. Fortunately, they were all benign and so recovery is what I focused on. I have reduced many of my autoimmune problems as a result as well as completely eliminated the IBS-D. If you have any abdominal pain or other abdominal symptoms like bloating or tenderness I would suggest you visit your Gynecologist and don't take No as an answer until they order an MRI. My tumors were initially seen in a 2015 MRI but no one told me that it needed to be watched, and my doctor left the practice, so it fell thru the cracks. You need to make sure and read all imaging reports and ask questions - lesson learned.

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@jabrown0407

mas0415 I know this will sound crazy - but a couple of years ago I had a hysterectomy and it cleared up my IBS-D as well as eliminated the massive hip girdle pain that my rheumatologist attributed to PMR and did not believe me that it was not the classic pain of PMR. It was first identified thru an MRI taken in the ER when my pain compelled me to go in. A vaginal sonagram confirmed the existence of several tumors that needed to be removed ASAP. Fortunately, they were all benign and so recovery is what I focused on. I have reduced many of my autoimmune problems as a result as well as completely eliminated the IBS-D. If you have any abdominal pain or other abdominal symptoms like bloating or tenderness I would suggest you visit your Gynecologist and don't take No as an answer until they order an MRI. My tumors were initially seen in a 2015 MRI but no one told me that it needed to be watched, and my doctor left the practice, so it fell thru the cracks. You need to make sure and read all imaging reports and ask questions - lesson learned.

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Thank you for your suggestion. I actually had a hysterectomy in March 2023. I was chronically anemic and had previously had a portion of my uterus removed, and 2 c sections. So, at this point I had a lot of scar tissue, pains, and the anemia, I was done. I was hopeful that the hysterectomy would clear up many of my issues. While I don’t regret it one bit and I have since been able to maintain my hemoglobin, it has not relieved my IBS-D or lower back pain as hoped.

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Another update…I had an emergency ophthalmologist appointment yesterday. I got to work and realized my eye had hemorrhaged. The same right eye I have had problems in since October. Previously had “inflammatory conjunctivitis”. The ophthalmologist said my eye was ok but was concerned and started prying. After admitting to coughing up a little blood a few days ago, he scared the living daylights out of me by suggesting I might be having bleeding issues and told me to contact my doctor. I called my primary physician but the office told me he had no appointments and wouldn’t order blood work without seeing me so I called the rheumatologist, who told me to proceed to the ER. 7 hours later I requested discharge. My blood work was “normal” and chest c ray was clear and I did not feel up to waiting around for the CT that was ordered. I was told to follow up promptly with a GI specialist since they questioned me about my bowel movements and I admitted to frequent blood in my stools. I have also been losing weight but I attribute this to the Celebrex I have been on for two months + that has made me incredibly nauseous. I need to get off of this but don’t know what else to take. I really feel like the doctors over reacted here but I suppose they were just being cautious. I’ve never had this happen before.

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@mas0415

Thank you for your suggestion. I actually had a hysterectomy in March 2023. I was chronically anemic and had previously had a portion of my uterus removed, and 2 c sections. So, at this point I had a lot of scar tissue, pains, and the anemia, I was done. I was hopeful that the hysterectomy would clear up many of my issues. While I don’t regret it one bit and I have since been able to maintain my hemoglobin, it has not relieved my IBS-D or lower back pain as hoped.

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@mas0415 The one thing that my GI doctor was able to do for me that helped my IBS-D was Rx a boutique antibiotic that does not go into your blood stream but stays in the GI system. He Dx Small Intestine Bacterial Overload (SIBO). Once I took the Xifaxin my IBS episodes went from every 5-7 days to every 3 weeks. The drug is very expensive and I had to get it from Canada because my drug insurance just does not do well with high priced boutique drugs. It was worth every penny I spent. It was a gamble since IBSO is not easy to positively diagnose. He ran the test and I came back normal, but he went with his intuition and experience.
I wish you success on your journey.

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