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Thu, Feb 7 7:10pm · Protracted Benzo withdrawal in Depression & Anxiety

@num1boxer1919 It is a long, slow, painful process to taper off. DO it slowly. Have the mindset it can be done, and you can (I keep telling myself this). I have gone from 6mg Klonopin per day down to 1.5mg now. I am working on a plan to go to 1.25 to 1.00 to 0.75 to 0.5….. cold turkey is impossible. But after getting off it, I am sure it will be worth it as the medication is worse than actually living with some other issues. It is impossible to get off this drug. Was invented to help. but now a means of torture.

Thu, Feb 7 7:45am · Tapering off clonazepam (Klonopin, Rivotril) in Depression & Anxiety

@num1boxer1919 Yes.

Without getting into the science (so we can speak as plainpeeps), I have long understood that as we take Benzos, our minds get rewired and dependent on it (getting off the Benzos help us rewire back to initial state)…. as such, if one is take 1mg daily, after an amount of time (different for each person), the brain gets used to the 1mg and needs MORE for same effect, so people up accordingly…. this is a vicious event as you up and up and up, it gets harder to wean off and off and off…. so, you MIGHT be experiencing that effect. Have you tried tapering down slowly, as hellish as we all know it might be?

Personally, I still struggle from a root bipolar disorder and clinical panic and generalized anxiety disorder, sadly, that I battle daily. 🙁 I am on supplements (vitamins etc , though looking into which ones might be having an adverse effect–see my posting a few posts above). I take 1.6mg of Klonopion daily and it feels im possible to get off this. I was once at 6mg daily. Then 3mg dailty for a year. Then 2mg daily for a year. Now at 1.5mg and it feel impossibly hard to get down to 1mg where I feel "normal" daily. Absolutely living hell if I do not take 1.5mg regulary, as we know the long half-life and withdrawal implications,.

Wed, Feb 6 3:26pm · Tapering off clonazepam (Klonopin, Rivotril) in Depression & Anxiety

Hi all,

I have heard (as others) that some supplements that many of us take *may* make it harder to wean off/taper off Klonpin ("K"). Below is a list of supplements I take on a semi-regular basis. Curious if anything jumps out at anyone as a potential flag to avoid. Please reply and help me and others. Thank you.

My Rx and Supplments (which I actually take to REDUCE my anxiety, but maybe not having desired effect?)
– Clonzapem 1.5mg throughout the day (usually 0.5mg x 3).; down from 6mg a few years ago
– Lutein softgel
– VItamin A + D3 combo softgel
– Colace (stool softener when I dont always eat greens)
– Calcium tablet
– Multivitamin (One a Day; OTC)
– Ginkgo Biloba
– Collagen
– Saw Palmetto
– Probiotics (I am Gluten Free, and have had GI issues in the past, so I monitor this carefully)
– L-Theanine
– B complex
– Vitamin C (1000mg per day)
– K2
– VItamin E
– Ashwagandha
– Turmeric

I take the above in tablet/capsule/softgel form throughout the day. I WAS taking fewer but recently added Ashwagandha and Turmeric ands K2. The Collagen is purely aesthetic/vanity. 🙂

Thoughts?

Wed, Feb 6 10:29am · Tapering off clonazepam (Klonopin, Rivotril) in Depression & Anxiety

@annfsd @mmussak

The micro tapering methods and Ashton method (yes, I've read that) are all easier said than done. The fact is, K is very very addictive in its own right, when coupled with genetics, length of time on the medication, each person's unique make-up etc…. there is no "one size fits all".

I have micro-tapered before, and yes 0.25mg every three weeks feels HUGE as we all know the half life and so on. It does lead to irritability, some semi-suicidal thoughts alll amidst real external pressures (job, family, etc).

In the end, the few times I have tried, I buckled and went back to 1.5mg. I chalked it up as an EXCUSE on jobm, family etc…. however, as my therapist would say "cart before horse". I need to get off the med. Anyone on here trying same knows how really really really hard it is.

There *never* seems to be a good time, but I believe that had I gotten off this years ago, IU would be in a better place now. My PLAN is to taper at that schedule. Easier said than done. But this time, unlike past years, I am committed becuase it has ruined enough of my life.

Tue, Feb 5 4:13pm · Tapering off clonazepam (Klonopin, Rivotril) in Depression & Anxiety

Hi Mary — I feel for you. Keep fighting the fight. I am in a sort of similar situation and hopping on this thread to see if my Q helps…

I am a 40 year old white male with bipolar disorder trying to *desperately* wean off Clonazepam/Klonopin ("K" for short). Short version of Rx: along the way, I've taken everything from anti-depressants to anti-anxiety and ambien and trazodone…. I'm now down to 1.5mg of K per day, and that is down from 6mg back a couple years ago. Apart from vitamin supplements (C, A, D3, E, Theanine…), I am not on any other Rx.

Help needed: I am trying to wean off K under guidance of a therapist and Pysch MD. I am down from 6mg-8mg years ago to 1mg-1.5mg per day now. I find it helps to keep a BALANCED amoutn in system. I have tried to reduce over time, but it is very, very , very hard. Like crawling out of skin. I can go to 1mg per day, but I have a wife and kids and a job (for now) that I need to semi-function in. When I have tried to stop cold turkey, after 24 hours, I am a basket case. Of course, *everyone* says you can never stop cold turkey, and they are right. K is a poisoinous drug for many reasons.

Any thoughts appreciated on how to wean off, slowly… nothing seems to work…. other than keeping steady amount. Having a hard time dropping below 1.5 mg on a regular basis. I know it has a long half life, etc…. . Prefer herbal or other supplements. Thoughts?

@mmussak I know it feels impossible. If you can stick to a strict schedule, it CAN work. I know I write this, but easier said than done for me and everyone addicted to K. My goal is:

1.50mg daily for three weeks
1.25mg for three weeks
1.00 for three weeks
and so on

Some would say do a slower taper, so that is possible. There is some discomfort and irratibility involved (who are we kidding– it is like haveing crawling skin on fire). Thoughts?

Tue, Feb 5 4:06pm · Weaning off zolpidem (Ambien) in Sleep Health

Hi all. Hopping on this thread (and posting for first time though have been reading here before).

I am a 40 year old white male with bipolar disorder trying to *desperately* wean off Clonazepam/Klonopin ("K" for short). Short version of Rx: along the way, I've taken everything from anti-depressants to anti-anxiety and ambien and trazodone…. I'm now down to 1.5mg of K per day, and that is down from 6mg back a couple years ago. Apart from vitamin supplements (C, A, D3, E, Theanine…), I am not on any other Rx.

Help needed: I have a supply of Ambien from my Psych MD, but I have not used it, I use Melatonin (6mg, subligual) which helps, but I wake up by 4:00a and cannot go back to sleep. Even with going to sleep at 10:00p. Any suggestions? I do NOT want to add Ambien to my meds as I am not on it now, and I am trying to wean off K under guidance of a therapist and Pysch MD.

Any thoughts appreciated. Prefer herbal or other supplements. Thoughts?