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Posted by Teresa, Volunteer Mentor @hopeful33250, Jan 20, 2017

Hello and welcome
Let's pull up our chairs in a circle and check in with each other and talk about how we are doing with our NET diagnosis. Any new tests, meds or treatments going on for you? What about your symptom control? Any concerns you have?

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Neuroendocrine Tumors (NETs) Support Group.

I was recently diagnosed with (1) early stage lung cancer, (2) emphysema (3) DIPNECH with tumorlets and chemdectomas. I had partial lung resection biopsy and a 7" cancerous tumor was removed, with clear margins and no node involvement. I'm being treated at Moffitt Cancer in Tampa, FL.

I'm now in the stage of getting medical opinions on treatment going forward. So far, the recommended treatment is observation, worth scans every 3-6 months for the next 5 years. I'm skeptical, frustrated and frightened.

I'm 55 and this is my 2nd cancer. I had invasive breast cancer at 43. I've had bilateral mastectomy and radical hysterectomy, followed by hormonal treatment with oral chemo drugs. I took Tamoxifen for 5 years. Come to find out now that Tamoxifen is a known carcinogen.

I'm frustrated with the lack of treatment options that DIPNECH has, after having one cancerous nodule removed and it being a second primary cancer for me. Does anyone have any thoughts or experiences around any of this? I feel so overwhelmed, isolated and worried.

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Profile picture for Zebra @californiazebra

Hi @splendrous
2008-2010: they didn't know what the 50+ nodules were, benign or cancer, so many guesses, all wrong. I declined an open chest/lung biopsy. We monitored with CTs for 2 years, slow growing.
2012: My second pulmonologist who was 73, said he'd never seen so many. I declined more CTs due to radiation. My logic was either it's benign or I'd be gone already if lung mets as some suspected. My new doc agreed.
2013: I now had unrelated breast cancer and the CT/PET showed they had grown. I still declined a lung biopsy.
2020: My unrelated breast cancer returned in my chest wall and the lung tumors had at least doubled in size so large enough to do a needle biopsy. I agreed and was diagnosed with stage 1 lung NETs (typical carcinoids) and advanced DIPNECH. My lungs are peppered with tumors so we can't remove them all.

I have been taking the monthly octreotide injections for 3.5 years now. It appears to be slowing growth in addition to relieving symptoms, but slow growing anyway. The interventional radiologist is watching for one to take off from the pack or behave differently in some way. So far, he destroyed the largest one 2.6 cm with microwave ablation and expects we'll do more in the future. He told me my airways are lined with hundreds or thousands of tiny tumorlets that don't show up on the CT and those cause the symptoms. Those are the ones I especially don't want to grow at all as I'm rather fond of breathing. I'm happy with my treatment.

P.S. Something new is happening in the bottom of my right lung. Looks like new tumors, but could be "debris" because a couple old tumors are blocking air flow there. Unclear so we'll do another CT in 3 months instead of 6. I'll know more at the end of January. This is the problem with 50+ tumors getting larger - even slowly. I also worry that breast cancer may spread to my lungs. That wouldn't be good. Only a biopsy could tell. Busy lungs with a lot to sort out. I'm doing amazingly well despite all of this. I hope to report the same in February. 🙂

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Hello @californiazebra,

I really appreciate the chronology that you provided as you have been dealing with lung NETs/DIPNECH for such a long time. It really provides a perspective for @splendrous and others to see the path that this type of cancer can take. You've been quite diligent in your care and follow up and being a great advocate for your own care.

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Profile picture for splendrous @splendrous

Thanks for sharing. You certainly have had quite a journey. I hope the treatment can help your symptoms. Where is the doctor directing your care?

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UCLA NETs team is coordinating with my local breast oncologist. Works great so I can get the octreotide injections locally.

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Profile picture for Zebra @californiazebra

Hi @splendrous
2008-2010: they didn't know what the 50+ nodules were, benign or cancer, so many guesses, all wrong. I declined an open chest/lung biopsy. We monitored with CTs for 2 years, slow growing.
2012: My second pulmonologist who was 73, said he'd never seen so many. I declined more CTs due to radiation. My logic was either it's benign or I'd be gone already if lung mets as some suspected. My new doc agreed.
2013: I now had unrelated breast cancer and the CT/PET showed they had grown. I still declined a lung biopsy.
2020: My unrelated breast cancer returned in my chest wall and the lung tumors had at least doubled in size so large enough to do a needle biopsy. I agreed and was diagnosed with stage 1 lung NETs (typical carcinoids) and advanced DIPNECH. My lungs are peppered with tumors so we can't remove them all.

I have been taking the monthly octreotide injections for 3.5 years now. It appears to be slowing growth in addition to relieving symptoms, but slow growing anyway. The interventional radiologist is watching for one to take off from the pack or behave differently in some way. So far, he destroyed the largest one 2.6 cm with microwave ablation and expects we'll do more in the future. He told me my airways are lined with hundreds or thousands of tiny tumorlets that don't show up on the CT and those cause the symptoms. Those are the ones I especially don't want to grow at all as I'm rather fond of breathing. I'm happy with my treatment.

P.S. Something new is happening in the bottom of my right lung. Looks like new tumors, but could be "debris" because a couple old tumors are blocking air flow there. Unclear so we'll do another CT in 3 months instead of 6. I'll know more at the end of January. This is the problem with 50+ tumors getting larger - even slowly. I also worry that breast cancer may spread to my lungs. That wouldn't be good. Only a biopsy could tell. Busy lungs with a lot to sort out. I'm doing amazingly well despite all of this. I hope to report the same in February. 🙂

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Thanks for sharing. You certainly have had quite a journey. I hope the treatment can help your symptoms. Where is the doctor directing your care?

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Profile picture for splendrous @splendrous

What treatment did they prescribe when your tumors were found 16 years ago? How long have you been on octreotide? Along with your symptoms has it kept the tumors from growing? Thanks for sharing.

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Hi @splendrous
2008-2010: they didn't know what the 50+ nodules were, benign or cancer, so many guesses, all wrong. I declined an open chest/lung biopsy. We monitored with CTs for 2 years, slow growing.
2012: My second pulmonologist who was 73, said he'd never seen so many. I declined more CTs due to radiation. My logic was either it's benign or I'd be gone already if lung mets as some suspected. My new doc agreed.
2013: I now had unrelated breast cancer and the CT/PET showed they had grown. I still declined a lung biopsy.
2020: My unrelated breast cancer returned in my chest wall and the lung tumors had at least doubled in size so large enough to do a needle biopsy. I agreed and was diagnosed with stage 1 lung NETs (typical carcinoids) and advanced DIPNECH. My lungs are peppered with tumors so we can't remove them all.

I have been taking the monthly octreotide injections for 3.5 years now. It appears to be slowing growth in addition to relieving symptoms, but slow growing anyway. The interventional radiologist is watching for one to take off from the pack or behave differently in some way. So far, he destroyed the largest one 2.6 cm with microwave ablation and expects we'll do more in the future. He told me my airways are lined with hundreds or thousands of tiny tumorlets that don't show up on the CT and those cause the symptoms. Those are the ones I especially don't want to grow at all as I'm rather fond of breathing. I'm happy with my treatment.

P.S. Something new is happening in the bottom of my right lung. Looks like new tumors, but could be "debris" because a couple old tumors are blocking air flow there. Unclear so we'll do another CT in 3 months instead of 6. I'll know more at the end of January. This is the problem with 50+ tumors getting larger - even slowly. I also worry that breast cancer may spread to my lungs. That wouldn't be good. Only a biopsy could tell. Busy lungs with a lot to sort out. I'm doing amazingly well despite all of this. I hope to report the same in February. 🙂

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Profile picture for beech18bob @beech18bob

Followup answer:
My invasive surgery (I’m a relatively healthy 80 year old man) was for a small bowel obstruction on July 1, 2022. It was “laparotomy general surgery” (large incision). The surgeon removed a well-well-differentiated neuroendocrine tumor with a 1.2 cm greatest dimension. Tumor was also present in 1 of 6 lymph nodes. He removed 19 cm & 5 cm segments of bowel in a resection of distal jejunum.
Staging: pT2, pN1, pMx. I came home on July 10. For 6-8 days at home I had night sweats and then they stopped. I have had no other symptoms since then, no diarrhea, weight loss, eating or sleeping problems and no pain. I feel fine other than some arthritic back pain that isn’t new. Twenty-five years ago I had prostate cancer and a radical prostatectomy. I have been cancer free since then and remember as a PCa support group president advising newly diagnosed PCa men to strongly consider second opinions concerning treatment options. Fortunately I took my own advice or I might currently be undergoing unnecessary Octreotide treatments. I appreciate the NET Group postings as I have read them since my diagnosis and learned a great deal about NET. It's a very important service about this uncommon cancer.

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Thanks for sharing. Where did you get your second opinion? Since 2022 are you getting any scans as follow up or did they not think that was necessary. Thanks again.

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Profile picture for Zebra @californiazebra

Hi @breck
Thank you for your response. Sorry this is so scary and you have breathing issues. Also sorry to hear your original care team did some damage.

My tumors are very very slow growing. They were first found on a CT scan 16 years ago and based on symptoms have likely been there at least 30 years. I take octreotide injections that have really helped the chronic coughing and shortness of breath. My case is being managed well by a NETs team at a university hospital near me. I’m glad you’re at Mayo now with a team familiar with lung NETs. My team tells me we’ll be partners for a very long time. An experienced NETs team makes a difference. Prayers for you. ❤️

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What treatment did they prescribe when your tumors were found 16 years ago? How long have you been on octreotide? Along with your symptoms has it kept the tumors from growing? Thanks for sharing.

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@colleenyoung . FOR THREADS THAT ARE POSTED UNDER THE WRONG SUBTOPIC, CAN YOU TRANSFER THE COMMENTS THAT BELONG ELSEWHERE? THANKS SO MUCH!

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Profile picture for ladonnagissel @ladonnagissel

Hello All .My name is Ladonna I live in Az now so went to seed Doctor with strange symptoms last December .H said was hernia CT scan tumor on pancreas thumb size so had biopsy at was for NETS. Next stop surgery in aug 2024 did with robot asst. small size for opening shorter recovery .Surgery took half of pancreas and spleen to close to tumor . I done ok for a few months now same symptoms are coming back in touch with Doctor office staff not understand what going on. Sad so may look for new place to get care .Costs are high every where .I do feel blessed I am 73 years old

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Hello @ladonnagissel and welcome to Mayo Connect. I can understand your concern with the return of symptoms that you had previous to your surgery in August. Would you be able to describe the symptoms you are having?

I am glad to hear that you have contacted your doctor's office. Has the doctor scheduled you for an appointment for a follow up appointment or tests?

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@colleenyoung . FOR THREADS THAT ARE POSTED UNDER THE WRONG SUBTOPIC, CAN YOU TRANSFER THE COMMENTS THAT BELONG ELSEWHERE? THANKS SO MUCH!

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