Treatment for Prostate Cancer Metastasized to Bones
4 months ago diagnosed with Prostate Cancer that has Metasized into Bones. So far, just getting Hormone Treatment...Eligard and Erleada....Feeling so tired...Is this normal? Is there any other treatment available?
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As I mentioned earlier in the thread, after watching his videos, it seems a little more nuanced:
- for oligometastatic (just a couple of spots), he recommends "zapping" the metastases (radiation); that was in a separate interview in his YouTube channel
- for more widespread metastases, he recommends the triple therapy right from the start
Again, just a layperson, but the plan seems to be to avoid the really harsh therapy for oligometastatic if you can treat each metastasis separately, but if you can't, then try the triple treatment right from the start instead of one thing at a time.
I watched Dr. Eugene Kwan's video at least 5 times..
Does 'curative' mean cure? He says the "IT' treatment is Triple Therapy...Hormone treatment and with Doxataxcel...
I don't get it...If this is the 'Standard' treatment then why aren't all the Urologists doing this...
Very frustrating...Where do we go...? Do we spend all day researching? Is one treatment better than the other.
My Urologist said there were a lot of side effects with the Doxataxcel Chemo treatment...
And, of course, then there are all the Homeopathic treatments and they all want a lot of money...
Not sure where to go, but I believe the Mayo Clinic should know what they are talking about..?
Thanks for your post! I watched this Keon video last night and I will watch it again today and take notes. I have an 3 month appointment with my UCLA urologist surgeon in 2 weeks and I will discuss it with him. If I am not satisfied with his response I will get another opinion
( hopefully here in LA but if need be I will travel to Mayo in Phoenix) I suspect that Dr Kwon and Mayo are the gold standard and my UCLA follows the medical standard to care , which may be the minimal medical standard of care. I was diagnosed 2 years ago, had surgery and 13 months of ADT and Erleada and if stats are any guide, I anticipate the cancer will wake up early 2025 or sooner. I am working on being proactive and hoping for a good result
Here is an article that overviews treatment strategies as well as describes the metastasis to the bones. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10000416/ (Baldessari et al, Bone Metastases and Health in Prostate Cancer: From Pathophysiology to Clinical Implications, March 2023).
If I correctly understand this article, the reality it describes is very sobering. The average overall survival rate is less than two years and the treatments increase survival by an average of 10-20%, or 2-5 months. Because bone health is the overall challenge for this stage, both the growth of the cancer and the deterioration of the bone mass (osteoporosis) are challenges, and to some extent they oppose each other--treatments for cancer may increase the fragility of the bones and treatments for bone deterioration may increase the cancer.
In situations like this asking how we are going to spend the remaining months of life is perhaps more important than how we are going to treat the cancer. Your medical team may not be well-equipped to address this issue with you.
If you prefer charts to words, look for the charts in the article. There are several that overview the course of the disease and the impact of available treatments.
While it is always possible that a clinic in Mexico has found strategies for disease management that no one else has or that a different MD will have a better treatment than our current MD, I am aware of no group of survivors who are saying ten years ago the scans identified bone metastases, but now it is no longer a problem for me. If you're in that group, please speak up?!
There is a stage where the biochemical markers identify that metastasis must be occurring but the bone tumors are not really evident yet. It is as this stage that most of the treatment strategies are trying to intervene in ways that extend the time it takes for the bone metastases to emerge.
I tried his email but it reject Any idea on how I can ask him a question
It is Kwon not Kwan on bottom of slide
Any news
also see https://youtu.be/-RVVq0uDAEE
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I've watched the link by Dr. Eugene Kwan at the Mayo Clinic 5 times.
He recommends 'Triple Therapy' right at the start for Prostate Cancer that has metatasized to the bones. He says this is not the 'IT' therapy, and yet my Urologist disagrees..
Is everyone getting the 'triple Therapy'??? I am only getting hormone treatment, Elgard and Erleada...I don't understand this...
Why is there no consensus on "Treatment'???