Starting Proton Treatments for Prostate Cancer: Any experiences?

Posted by desertrat @desertrat, Feb 5, 2022

I am 69, just been diagnosed with prostate cancer, Gleason score of 3 + 4, PSA is 4.2. I have opted to do 28 treatments of proton radiation only. I would appreciate hearing from others who have been through this and how it worked out for you. Thanks in advance!

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Proton radiation therapy in 2010 at Loma Linda Hospital. Two and one-half months (2.5 months) or morning proton radiation therapy, Gleason 3 plus 3, localized PC; PSA 6.47.

Longer-term sessions with reduced proton radiation minimize any issue(s) with tissue. Ask your doctor, and they will validate this fact. The intensity of the radiation and the length of time of radiation are subjective decisions made by your doctor. Keep in mind, the shorter the time, the more the hospital can accommodate others and increase income. I had TriCare for Life and the bill was over $125,000 not including housing, meals, etc, which was my responsibility. In closing, I would estimate that meeting others in the morning prior to the radiation, half or more of the patients were physicians with various levels of prostate cancer.

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@mhordes Did you have radiation therapy? The urethra gets hit by the radiation and will irritate the part going through the prostrate and the flo max will help the flow without the irritation. That could be where the problem is.

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@waynen yes radiation therapy

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@waynen what kind of prescription for urination pain? Mine is pretty bad and they thought I had UTI gave me antibiotics but the culture showed no infection? Is Flow Max the RX. Tried AZO but not much help.

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@mhordes Did you have radiation therapy? The urethra gets hit by the radiation and will irritate the part going through the prostrate and the flo max will help the flow without the irritation. That could be where the problem is.

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@waynen what kind of prescription for urination pain? Mine is pretty bad and they thought I had UTI gave me antibiotics but the culture showed no infection? Is Flow Max the RX. Tried AZO but not much help.

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@mhordes It was called Flo Max. I don't know if it has another name. It worked well for me. Good look.

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To get the relief from the urinating pain by going to urgent care and they can give a prescription. You probably don't need your radiation oncologist to prescribe it.

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@waynen what kind of prescription for urination pain? Mine is pretty bad and they thought I had UTI gave me antibiotics but the culture showed no infection? Is Flow Max the RX. Tried AZO but not much help.

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I had 28 sessions Proton. Prep is being regular, constipation is an issue be sure to communicate with your RO. Drink sufficient water , set up a consistent pattern to have bladder full. Always have rectal spacer with proton, it can cause rectal bleeding. After I completed my course my doc told me up to 30% of patients may have rectal bleeding, much of it light. Spacer is helpful with that. I am 5 months out and OK. Have had some rectal urgency but that is getting better. I think IMRT is just as good, SBRT is as good but a bit harder on urinary tract. MRI Guided SBRT is currently the best in my mind if your doc recommends. My opinion all, best of luck!

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Profile picture for vircet @vircet

What was your Gleason score? You and @bigtoe both had 5 proton treatments at Mayo Rochester. Did you also decline ADT? He had GS 4+3. If you had the same GS, the more I question, why do I need 8 months to a year of ADT for my Gleason 3+4? I have been on Orgovyx since March 26 and I plan to take it for no more than six months post-SBRT.

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My GS was 3+4, sorry for the error.

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Profile picture for bigtoe @bigtoe

I'm 67 had proton radiation, 5 treatments only at Mayo Rochester last October. I believe one of the few places that have it down to 5 treatments. Gleason score was 4 + 3 = 7 psa 6.3 now .3. No side effects at all. Fyi stayed at the Hope Lodge in Rochester free which was an unbelievable place. Good Luck !!!!

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@bigtoe
Most all the major prosate treatment centers are now offering the high dose less treatments along with low dose extended treatments.

The limited research (since the new 5 high dose) is fairly new showing both having about same success rate on treatments.

My PCP at Mayo (not my statistic or research) told me the research is showing an increase in side affects with the high dose treatments. My R/O at UFHPTI did not like doing the 5 high dose for many reasons. I had 30 rounds of pencil beam proton radiation.

It would make sense that the high dose would bring on the side affects quicker. But from my opinion and just an opinion the shorter 5 doses on 5 separate days versus 30 days would allow the body to start healing much faster than being bombarded for 6-7 weeks versus 2.

If I had the option today not sure I would not go with the 5 day treatment as the mental aspect of getting it over psychologically can really help.

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Profile picture for desertrat @desertrat

Hello,
I opted not to do hormone therapy because of the temporary side effects and because my radiation oncologist said that proton therapy studies at the university of Florida have shown to be very effective. He was very objective about different treatment options, I thought I am hoping not to regret my decision!

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Three years after, have you no regrets for opting out ADT (hormone therapy)? As you expected, and I expect as well?

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Profile picture for jbonsoe @jbonsoe

Hi, my numbers were the same as yours except PSA was 4.4, I went to Mayo Rochester. They recommended 5 Proton treatments. I am doing great with a PSA of 0.01.
Good Luck,
JB

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What was your Gleason score? You and @bigtoe both had 5 proton treatments at Mayo Rochester. Did you also decline ADT? He had GS 4+3. If you had the same GS, the more I question, why do I need 8 months to a year of ADT for my Gleason 3+4? I have been on Orgovyx since March 26 and I plan to take it for no more than six months post-SBRT.

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