Sex After Surgery: What can I expect?

Posted by bdc1677 @bdc1677, Aug 14, 2024

For those who have had their prostate removed and able to get an erection... how has sex changed? I am schedule for surgery October 3rd. I am 57... so a little freaked out.

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@jim1961 - This hit the nail on the head for me. I am 56 years old (diagnosed at 54) and now 14 months post RARP. My surgery was partially nerve-sparing. ED has been a huge factor, both psychologically and emotionally since the surgery. I immediately started on 5mg of Cialis after the surgery and continue it daily. I was recently prescribed an additional 20mg as needed for sex, but it has only had minimal results. The pump really did nothing for me. With the 20mg of Cialis I can get an erection about 90% of pre-surgery. I have climacturia every now and again with masturbation, but not every time. During masturbation, I can get an orgasm but it takes a lot of extra effort. The lack of ejaculation has had a bigger negative emotional effect on both me and my wife to the point I often wish I never had the RAPR. Other than the ED, I maintain a very healthy and normal life again, but sex is no longer a priority in my life.

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@kmc1372 Try using a penis ring, and we use fake ejaculation made from greek vanilla yogurt and a small amount of coffee mate and heat it up in hot water.

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First of all welcome to the forum and the club no one wants to join. You’re going to be alright and we’re here for you.

I had surgery mid January 2024. Sex is a work in progress for me but I’ll share a few comments based on my experience. Get busy as soon as you feel well enough. Be patient and kind to yourself if things take a while. It probably will but the destination is worth the journey.

Climax feels different and without seminal vesicles you will no longer ejaculate so there is no “build up” and “release” and some describe it as a “dry”:orgasm. On the positive side it’s less messy and I’ll leave figuring out the advantages of that to you. Some men say it’s less intense. Some say it’s more intense. Your mileage may vary.

What’s your Gleason score?

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@robertmizek Hi there I had my prostatectomy in May 2020 and learning to have sex and have an orgasm is a journey, don't give up. For me it keeps getting better, I had to lean how to have an orgasm and yes it is dry but very intense and goes on for like 30 seconds. But what brought me here was that I have "diaper rash" on my right testicle, from leaking and can't get rid of it . Been to the Doctor twice and she said use vasoline and 40% zinc oxide which is for the rash. So I'm still looking for a solution.

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I had nerve Sparing RARP at Mayo Rochester in late October 2025. I am 64 years old. Gleason (3+4) 7. Post-surgery pathology showed multifocal 2mm margins, including 4's, and the prostate biopsy showed some cribriform. For now, six months out, my PSA (previously 11) remains undetectable, so I won't worry too much about that until I hear otherwise.

Sexually, everything worked fine before surgery. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but post-surgery has been an ongoing project in that area. I immediately started taking 5 mg Cialis daily post-surgery, and an additional 15 mg as needed, doing Kegels, and using a pump and encouraging erections (Use it or lose it). I was able to get an erection right away after catheter removed. But.... it was not what it was prior, and it has not returned to that.

My first orgasm masturbating, I was expecting the dry orgasm, but much to my surprise I shot gushing spouts of urine all over the bedroom ceiling and walls. It was shocking!! That is called climacturia. I ejaculate urine when I have an orgasm. It turns out that is common post RARP, but I hadn't read the fine print.

I otherwise regained continence after a couple of months except... in addition to climacturia, I have "arousal incontinence" If I start making out or getting aroused, I leak unexpectedly without warning.

I am now six-months post-surgery. I can get an erection sufficient for penetrative sex, but it takes some work. The problem now is that I cannot maintain it until orgasm when I am having intercourse. I can have an orgasm masturbating, but it takes longer, and I have to clamp the base of my penis to keep it hard when I get close to orgasm. I try to empty my bladder as much as possible before any sexual activity, but I still get some level of climacturia.

My partner is very patient and understanding. Fortunately, my boners do last long enough to satisfy her, so that is a relief. She says it is no problem if I pee on her or in her, so that should be reassuring. Despite that, I have had only one orgasm with her in the last six-months. I use Viagra and/or Cialis, but it is still not enough to keep me hard to orgasm. Erections overall are maybe at 75% of baseline when I start, but they fade.

People and AI recommend using a condom or cock-ring for the climacturia. Neither is very helpful. Theoretically a condom would contain the urine, but it is not an issue because I am unable to orgasm while wearing one. The cock-ring made no difference in stopping the pee.

I recently went back to Mayo Men's Health Clinic and got a prescription for Trimix. It is supposed to be like Viagra x 10. Trimix is injected into the penis with a needle. I did not like the practice run in front of the nurse very much, but C'est la vie. I am optimistically awaiting its arrival.

Mayo Men's Health said that, as a practical matter, I was at max improvement. That is despite the literature that says function can improve for 18 to 24 months before reaching the new baseline. The Mayo provider said that, while there may be further improvement (consistent with the literature) that for me it would be very incremental and insignificant from my present situation. Mayo said I was eligible for the implanted pump surgery and we discussed that option. If necessary, that sounds very viable. I will give Trimix a chance first.

It has taken a toll psychologically. I think that aspect is under appreciated by the Urology clinics. At least that is my experience with Mayo. I am practical. It is what it is. I had cancer and the ED is collateral consequence. I will deal with it. But, despite a very understanding and generous partner, it has had a significant impact on my sex life and self-confidence. Perhaps my self-identity is too intertwined with my sexuality. Not much to do about that now except to work on accepting the new reality.

I don't want to steal the thread, but does anyone else want to share comments about the psychological and emotional challenges of ED post RARP?
Jim

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@jim1961 - This hit the nail on the head for me. I am 56 years old (diagnosed at 54) and now 14 months post RARP. My surgery was partially nerve-sparing. ED has been a huge factor, both psychologically and emotionally since the surgery. I immediately started on 5mg of Cialis after the surgery and continue it daily. I was recently prescribed an additional 20mg as needed for sex, but it has only had minimal results. The pump really did nothing for me. With the 20mg of Cialis I can get an erection about 90% of pre-surgery. I have climacturia every now and again with masturbation, but not every time. During masturbation, I can get an orgasm but it takes a lot of extra effort. The lack of ejaculation has had a bigger negative emotional effect on both me and my wife to the point I often wish I never had the RAPR. Other than the ED, I maintain a very healthy and normal life again, but sex is no longer a priority in my life.

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@retireditguy How did it come back? Was it gradual and steady or was there a sudden improvement?

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@topf -- Short answer: generally very slow with small but distinct improvements every couple of months. Long answer: Recovery for me fell into 2 categories; physical firmness/stamina/sensitivity and the ability to climax. First the physical firmness/stamina/sensitivity recovery was a step function; I'd be at some level, make very slow gains for a month or two, then make a distinct (although usually small) improvement jump. Not necessarily a large jump, but clearly better. I don't really know what was happening in my body, but it seemed like the nerves went through 2 phases; waking up and then improving function. This definitely tracked to improvements in firmness, stamina, and sensitivity. The last noticable jump occurred at about 15 months. I woke up one morning with an erection that actually felt like presurgery level. Over the following 2 weeks I started regularly achieving that same level of firmness when having sex. That 15 month process was gradual with lots of days when I wondered if I was really making progress on not. I stuck with the pills, but if progress had stalled for too long my next step was going to be the shots. The climax situation was different for me. I climaxed rather early in my recovery and it was quite intense. Then I went through periods of better or worst climax experiences (or none at all). I believe that was more due to what I spoke about regarding "getting my head in the game" (which also impacted my physical response as well). As I worked on more cuddling/romance/foreplay and generally the emotional side of the equation, the climaxes became better and more consistent for me. Improvements in the physical recovery helped here too, as the stimulation became more consistent and frankly physical improvements really helped reduce the anxiety, which also helped generate an environment condusive to a climax. This is my honest story of how my recovery proceeded as I remember and observed it, with my observations/guesses of what contributed to it. But maybe reality was something else and I'm just kidding myself, but this is how it seemed to progress for me. Best wishes.

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When I had the ability to get an erection near-instantly all my life - for 70 years - I never had a twinge of a thought that "someday I may not be able to have sex." As a result, I never realized how tightly-bound my ability to have sex was with "being in a relationship." To clarify: Yes...I was married for 38 years before my divorce one month before my radical prostatectomy (RP), but...with the near-simultaneous divorce and RP which destroyed my ability to get an erection, I have been reeling in a frustrated depression about likely being alone the rest of my life, because if I have a relationship - even another marriage - I expect myself to be able to perform...to me it is the essential, necessary part of a man in a relationship: express my love and sexual desire with my girlfriend/wife. It came naturally...of its own volition...about six months ago, that "if I can't have sex and please my partner, then I am not going to "look", "date", or get serious about anyone." To me, it is the ultimate humiliation not to be able to perform. Forget "me" having the pleasure that I know I'd have...it is about my inability to please my future girlfriend or wife, that is the issue. I have been taking Cialis (Tadalifil) every other evening for nearly a year, with absolutely no result. I have heard and read about Trimix here, and my physician said that "when you're ready for it" he'll teach me how to inject it properly, but the word "inject" is a complete turn-off. I was around needles my entire professional life being the Director of Clinical and Anatomical Lab services in hospitals. I've stuck needles in literally thousands and thousands of people, but sticking one in my own penis is a "no go." So maybe the question to all of you guys is: How long did it take you to get an erection while taking Cialis? Next day, a week later, a month later, 6 months??? Knowing that will give me a chance to decide to stop taking Cialis, or to keep taking it because it might take two years. Thanks

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If it helps any, cialis never did anything for me, but i take it daily for blood flow. It is also good for your heart. Viagra or generic works great for me now 2 years past surgery. 100 mg 30-45 min before does work. I tried needles and it just did not work for me. I got the erection, but I did not really feel anything.

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Cialis, Spedra, and Tadalafil did nothing for me at all, but I have taken 5mg Tadalafil daily since the surgery 27 months ago in the hope it will help. Zilch, not even a soft-on, even taking 20mg Tadalafil did not help. The only thing which has helped has been the penis injections. I just had to get over the idea of sticking a needle into my penis, but after doing it a few times it is OK and I do get an erection. I find doing this in the only way I get an erection, but it totally lacks intimacy. For me in the past sex was never planned, it was spontaneous and done in the moment. After injecting my penis there is no way I could be intimate. I also find you have to spend quite some time massaging my penis to distribute the injection, otherwise I get pain in my penis afterwards. It's easier to climax with the injection with a little "porn" to help. I am on testosterone cream which raises my testosterone level to the mid 600's so I am not deficient in that regard, Like you sadly the past sex life is in the past and I have given up hope of it ever returning like it was. Maybe some kind soul will find something which allows men like us to have some reasonable sex life of some sort in the future.

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When I had the ability to get an erection near-instantly all my life - for 70 years - I never had a twinge of a thought that "someday I may not be able to have sex." As a result, I never realized how tightly-bound my ability to have sex was with "being in a relationship." To clarify: Yes...I was married for 38 years before my divorce one month before my radical prostatectomy (RP), but...with the near-simultaneous divorce and RP which destroyed my ability to get an erection, I have been reeling in a frustrated depression about likely being alone the rest of my life, because if I have a relationship - even another marriage - I expect myself to be able to perform...to me it is the essential, necessary part of a man in a relationship: express my love and sexual desire with my girlfriend/wife. It came naturally...of its own volition...about six months ago, that "if I can't have sex and please my partner, then I am not going to "look", "date", or get serious about anyone." To me, it is the ultimate humiliation not to be able to perform. Forget "me" having the pleasure that I know I'd have...it is about my inability to please my future girlfriend or wife, that is the issue. I have been taking Cialis (Tadalifil) every other evening for nearly a year, with absolutely no result. I have heard and read about Trimix here, and my physician said that "when you're ready for it" he'll teach me how to inject it properly, but the word "inject" is a complete turn-off. I was around needles my entire professional life being the Director of Clinical and Anatomical Lab services in hospitals. I've stuck needles in literally thousands and thousands of people, but sticking one in my own penis is a "no go." So maybe the question to all of you guys is: How long did it take you to get an erection while taking Cialis? Next day, a week later, a month later, 6 months??? Knowing that will give me a chance to decide to stop taking Cialis, or to keep taking it because it might take two years. Thanks

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@turtbean -- I had NS RARP on 06/2024 at age 70. I'm not a medical professional, so take my comments with a grain of salt. I had ED after surgery and that recovery took about 15 months to get back to normal, even though I was doing penile rehab (vacuum pump, low dose daily Cialis, on demand 100mg Viagra). Writing it now, 15 months sounds great. But during that 15 months, recovery felt soooo slow and it felt like it took forever to recover. The pump never helped me for sex, and I only used it at first for a few months for blood flow. I also tried to eat well, took vitamins, magnesium, L-Citrulline, exercise regularly, etc, to facilitate my recovery. I also started Kegels before surgery and continue the Kegels to this day to maintain pelvic floor conditioning. At this time I'm very happy with my ED recovery, but I still am on the daily 5mg Cialis (generic) and on demand 100mg Viagra (generic). I also still exercise, take a multi-vitamin, magnesium, and L-Citrulline. The pills don't bother me at all and since I had some ED and needed Viagra before surgery, I plan to continue to use them indefinitely. I don't really know if the vitamins, magnesium and L-Citrulline really help or not, but I think they do and so I hesitate to mess with success. 🙂 BTW, I believe part of my ED was that my penis just wasn't as sensitive as before until the nerves eventually woke up. For me, during my recovery I found I couldn't just "let the physical side" do the work. Rather, I needed to get "my head in the game" with more cuddling, romance, and foreplay. That realization helped me a lot, including reaching a point now where I normally am able to climax almost all the time we have sex. But I don't think I'd be doing as well if I hadn't made that adjustment (which I read about on this blog). Also, I had a verrrrrry patient and supportive wife. I've heard a sexual health doctor say anxiety is an "anti-Viagra", so it's important to have a partner who's trying hard to make it as stress free as possible. That also was a huge benefit I enjoyed as I definitely had a lot of anxiety whenever I'd make the attempt to have sex during the recovery time. During the recovery period (15 months for me) I never knew how successful any attempt to have sex would be. I found that stressful and my wife consistently did all she could to de-stress our attempts. I believe that was a crucial component of my eventual ED recovery (along with having had an outstanding surgeon). Best wishes.

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@retireditguy How did it come back? Was it gradual and steady or was there a sudden improvement?

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I think those of us who no longer have the responsive body we had are grieving. I have dreams of erections like I used to have… When I finally
Decided to give Trimix a go, I was sad going to the appointment. I should have been eager to go, but I had this feeling of being broken and not ever being able to go back. Don’t get me wrong - Trimix is a lot of fun for me - but my body is not the same. And, like others have said, I’m not depressed, I have a great life. However, nothing removes the loss.

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Thanks Guys, well stated. Me, all the above and PISSED OFF! I've always been "oversexed" since puberty and have been pretty much DEAD on every level for 3 years. I think I had a fighting chance until I, ALL too late, came to the informed Realization, that MY Oncologist Poisoned my Boy z UNNECESSARILY! with the LUPRON CASTRATION POISON! Yeah, total BS. Please, advise your friends and Doctors that there ARE alternatives to Permanent Castration. I do all kinds of things to try and wake them up but just isn't getting any results.
And believe me, I am not the pleasant Patient I was described in my medical notes by my Oncologist and Radiologist as I started this adventure. BTW, did I mention that I am 75 and otherwise look like I'm < 65 despite the near total depletion of my testosterone. And, that I am married 25 years to a lovely redhead of 60? I let him/them have it every time we see each other. So, out of some sick sense of guilt I assume, He recently noted my HOT flash and Sweats on a visit and decided, after a year and a half since my last Lupron injection, that just maybe he could prescribe something that might "provide some relief". ANDROGEL. The Rx instructions prescribe "2 pumps topically Twice Daily". He made me promise that I won't use it MORE THAN ONCE A WEEK. One application every 7 days! Yeah, Big Whoop for a guy with 16 'T' measurement. And after two applications thus far, still catching fire regularly. Well, that's about it. Quality of life is actually a great alternative to Quantity. Good luck to my fellow dreamers about life returning to some function of normality on this topic. Hoping you have better medical professionals than I got hooked up with. rlm

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