Anyone else have a Redundant/Tortuous Colon?

Posted by onaquest @onaquest, Nov 7, 2018

Hello. Anyone else out there that has a redundant/ tortured colon? I was diagnosed with this a few years ago. I’m usually ok, but if I get constipated, I get sick for a week or two. Last year my gastroenterologist referred me to a surgeon for urgent surgery to remove some of my colon. The surgeon I ended up seeing (not on the recommended list by my gastro doc due to others not available for a long time) said he believed I could live with the redundant colon if I followed a low FODMAP diet. I tried the diet religiously, scientifically (I’m a scientist), and I found it’s not the food I eat that causes these bouts of constipation. The only item I’ve found that might cause the bouts is coffee every day. An occasional coffee seems fine. What has helped me stay regular in a big way is Benefiber (or any pure wheat dextrose generic) three times per day. Lots of fluid.

My gastro doc was upset with the surgeon and said I’d regret not having the surgery. He fears I will end up in an emergency situation. I have searched the Mayo site and don’t find anything about redundant/ tortured colon. Are any Mayo docs doing research or treat this condition? Anyone else suffer from this too?
Thank you! -Jayne

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JN: I am a 72y/o woman with severe constipation & a redundant colon. 7 years ago I had 14" of colon removed and 3 additional surgeries for a rectocele, entrocele and another bowel prolapse. I have been severely constipated before and after surgeries. I have tried evert kind of otc med, laxatives, fibers and many prescribed meds, drink 1/2 gallon of water, swim 4-5 times weekly, do zumba nothing works. I have thrown up after 6 days of not going. I have pains in right upper and left lower abdominal areas. I am enema dependent to empty my bowels, it is a painful process and can last for 3 hours every time I do it. 2 surgeons recommended colectomy, 1 did not. 1 GI recommended surgery, 2 did not. I am a young 72 and want to continue living actively with less difficulty. Anyone have surgery that worked, and what kind to eliminate this problem? I have been told that colectomy can also produce bloating, gas, things I am already dealing with. Thank you for your help
JN

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I have a tortuous colon and have had motility problems for 24 years. for years I have been dependent on enemas to eliminate, I simply cannot eliminate without them. Here is a brief history of how I have been helped:

in 2014 a colorectal surgeon surgically inserted an interstim, which is a colon stimulator. For eight years the interstim worked. I no longer needed regular enemas every day, only on some days. I took lots of miralax every night and was able to eliminate easily using suppositories, prep h and digital stimulation; and sometimes naturally

After the interstim stopped working, I acquired another problem.
Due to spinal fractures, I've been on regular opioids. consequently I found myself suffering from opioid induced constipation. Nothing worked. Was on linzess; it worked for six months and then I built up permanent tolerance. After two years of not being able to eliminate, I googled the problem and found that there is a class of drugs called PAMORA, which are specifically for OIC. My pain dr prescribes one of the PAMORA drugs, Relistor; I take three tablets every night plus miralax and am able to eliminate via enemas, but they are quick and I get it over with in 15 minutes. I wish I didn't have to take the enemas, but at least it's quick.

In addition, i go to colonics once a month and have a two-hour session. If you are healthy enough to tolerate colonics (pl google if you're not familiar with it), it cleans you out. However insurance does not generally cover it so hopefully, if you choose this method, you can afford to pay for it. some doctors will advise against it and say it is dangerous. If you go to a reputable colonics practitioner, they will know whether or not you can tolerate it and they will not harm you. My practitioner is an RN and really knows her stuff. So pl google colonics before listening to advice and decide for yourself. It really works! If you are able to tolerate it (and due to the conditions you described, that might not be the case), and if you can afford it once a week, you will be relatively ok, or at least better. If I were wealthy enough, I would have a two-hour session once a week because I feel so great afterwards. I take a strong dose of milk of magnesia the night before and she cleans me out for two hours. I have never been harmed by it, only helped, especially when I was suffering the most and could not eliminate at all

I hope these ideas are helpful. I'm reaching out to you with prayers and love in my heart because I know what kind of suffering motility issues can cause

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Profile picture for mel1987 @mel1987

I was diagnosed in 2010 with tortuous colon which was discovered during a routine colonoscopy. I have had very few problems until the beginning of 2019 when I began developing severe muscle spasms in my lower left abdomen and lower left back. I cannot think any other reason why these spasms would occur other than a result from the tortuous colon. I have also had severe constipation which I cannot find relief for. Has anyone else had anything similar happen?

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Yes, I can say.I have had similar thing happen with me.
Stabbing pain when turning in bed on my left side.
Seem to coincide when I began to have gastro.Issues because of my twisted colon.
Constipation.
Is always a situation that you have to deal with all the time.
Just completed a colonoscop and it was a moderately torturous colon.
I wish that there was a way we could untwist the colons!
i'm going to look into it.

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@shawnkthryn,

We are eating in a similar fashion. I have detailed what I eat a number of times on this platform.

Suggestions:

Slippery elm inner bark powder - I use 1/8 teaspoon with meals, 4-5 times a day. A game changer.
Magnesium at night - both good for consitpation and anxiety.
A multi-vitamin, due to a limited diet.
Digestive enzymes with every meal/snack. I use the Intoleran brand. A game changer.
Also a product to help me break down fats and proteins.

None of the above would work as well if I hadn't switched to a mostly soft-foods diet.

I also walk for 45 minutes and stretch.

This is a bare-bones outline, but you get the idea. I do all of this and my gut is pretty normal.

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@researchmaven yes, I forgot to mention I take prenatal vitamin, super B complex & vitamin D. I'm not sure re my dietary intake. Are you eating several small meals? I eat once maybe twice a day. Either pkg spinach w carrots cooked well or a couple different veg's next days meal? I used to be much more active. I feel I have to always be on the conservative side & prioritize, where I choose to spend energy. You're actually up & going the extra mile for your health. I have Slippery Elm Bark powder on my list. I have not got this yet. I thought knowing the problem is 1/2 the battle & the other 1/2is the approach. Do you eat any white fish? Peanut butter or eggs?

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Profile picture for kjn72 @kjn72

JN: I am a 72y/o woman with severe constipation & a redundant colon. 7 years ago I had 14" of colon removed and 3 additional surgeries for a rectocele, entrocele and another bowel prolapse. I have been severely constipated before and after surgeries. I have tried evert kind of otc med, laxatives, fibers and many prescribed meds, drink 1/2 gallon of water, swim 4-5 times weekly, do zumba nothing works. I have thrown up after 6 days of not going. I have pains in right upper and left lower abdominal areas. I am enema dependent to empty my bowels, it is a painful process and can last for 3 hours every time I do it. 2 surgeons recommended colectomy, 1 did not. 1 GI recommended surgery, 2 did not. I am a young 72 and want to continue living actively with less difficulty. Anyone have surgery that worked, and what kind to eliminate this problem? I have been told that colectomy can also produce bloating, gas, things I am already dealing with. Thank you for your help
JN

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@shawnkthryn,

We are eating in a similar fashion. I have detailed what I eat a number of times on this platform.

Suggestions:

Slippery elm inner bark powder - I use 1/8 teaspoon with meals, 4-5 times a day. A game changer.
Magnesium at night - both good for consitpation and anxiety.
A multi-vitamin, due to a limited diet.
Digestive enzymes with every meal/snack. I use the Intoleran brand. A game changer.
Also a product to help me break down fats and proteins.

None of the above would work as well if I hadn't switched to a mostly soft-foods diet.

I also walk for 45 minutes and stretch.

This is a bare-bones outline, but you get the idea. I do all of this and my gut is pretty normal.

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Shawnkthryn -- Have you tried eating low FODMAP or a highly liquid diet? What supplements do you take? Based on my experience, finding the foods and supps that work for you could relieve a lot of symptoms.

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@researchmaven I'm eating carrots, beets spinach, sweet potatoes, squash, outshine bars. That's what I found agrees w me. Boost 30mg & gatorade zero all day. 2 wks. going a little every day. Any suggestions

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affirmed Very torturous colon. But redundant colon in chart. GI ?'d
Painful stomach distensions to swollen intestine w no food I can clearly feel difference

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Shawnkthryn -- Have you tried eating low FODMAP or a highly liquid diet? What supplements do you take? Based on my experience, finding the foods and supps that work for you could relieve a lot of symptoms.

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No I decided against that surgery bc of age and nothing is 100%.

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Considering age @66yy, what i've endured w cholecystectomy, umbilical hernia repair, rectopexy-(anal prolapse), & 40 y ago hysterectomy- scar tissue growth- doc talked re removal of excess growth- Huh? PCP i have past year offered a tetanus shot, another Huh? Petty stuff when I'm in maternity clothes w distensions & a prolapse. I kid you not. So many tests & blood work & i agree 100%

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Profile picture for kjn72 @kjn72

JN: I am a 72y/o woman with severe constipation & a redundant colon. 7 years ago I had 14" of colon removed and 3 additional surgeries for a rectocele, entrocele and another bowel prolapse. I have been severely constipated before and after surgeries. I have tried evert kind of otc med, laxatives, fibers and many prescribed meds, drink 1/2 gallon of water, swim 4-5 times weekly, do zumba nothing works. I have thrown up after 6 days of not going. I have pains in right upper and left lower abdominal areas. I am enema dependent to empty my bowels, it is a painful process and can last for 3 hours every time I do it. 2 surgeons recommended colectomy, 1 did not. 1 GI recommended surgery, 2 did not. I am a young 72 and want to continue living actively with less difficulty. Anyone have surgery that worked, and what kind to eliminate this problem? I have been told that colectomy can also produce bloating, gas, things I am already dealing with. Thank you for your help
JN

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affirmed Very torturous colon. But redundant colon in chart. GI ?'d
Painful stomach distensions to swollen intestine w no food I can clearly feel difference

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Profile picture for researchmaven @researchmaven

My colon is difficult like yours, fin 22, but I don't have pain. I also have other things going on with it; for example, I need to eat a very restricted diet.

I have discovered two other important changes: (1) avoid most solid food. Bread, meat, etc. just doesn't seem to work well in my gut. I focus on hot cereal and soup. What I choose is really healthy, and fairly balanced. I get a ton of protein, greens, other veggies, some fruit and I take a multi-vit.

If I didn't avoid most solid foods, I would be constipated all the time and/or experiencing IBS-C.

The second important change is slippery elm inner bark powder. I can't live without it and take 1/8 teaspoon with almost every meal and snack, either in hot cereal, hot cocoa, hot water, etc. I like the Frontier brand, which you can get on Amazon or iHerb, among other venues.

Though it is a big loss to have an extremely limited diet, it is far better than the gastric upset and constipation I was experiencing.

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@researchmaven Slipper Elm inner bark powder. Hi how you doing today? I've eliminated red meat & pork & eaten fish n chix
y's. W rice ahhh wrong answer. Binds like concrete.
Fresh fruit & veggies. Doc says no fresh fruit n veg. Canned fruit & veg. No corn, seeds, nuts, skins. I thought docs diet was gonna help me. Still miserable w salmon, frozen spinach, can beets, sweet tates, w seeded squash. I've fasted 4 days for Gastric Emptying Scan. For T&W I ate salmon n sweet tates w minimal intake or I'll toss food. Yesterday poo balls in toilet look like chocolate w bubble gum wrapped in it. That's salmon. My gosh, not digesting fish properly. Not interested in wrap stomach around another organ. Or if they need remove dead colon tissue from the 3 blockages in 2021/22. Tests ran incl. EUS 2 mo ago. & 4y's CT''s, MRI, x-rays, U.S.'s, EGD- all these to confirm GERD, E.O.E., Chronic Gastritis- i aced these tests & walk away lighter in the financial & no further ahead. 5' 80#'s. Staying hydrated is mission today

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I am an active 50 and been living with this severely tortuous and redundant colon since 2 Endometriosis surgeries then my hysterectomy at 39. I was curious if it was the result of the surgeries from moving things around or scar tissue, I don’t know. My severe pain starts in area where your appendix or right ovary is then goes down towards righ groin. Been to ER before with this pain…morphine did not touch the pain. Constantly constipated I try to get all my greens and nutrients in with smoothies and soups but it’s not always easy. I don’t eat meat and minimal dairy. I woke up in such pain this AM it is so hard to get out of bed 😩 Does psyllium husk help anyone?

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@finn22 how are you? Past y w Constipation here, going 1x wk. For 52 wks. I tried Artichoke root 8000mg. w 2 meals. Tossed that. 2- 3 d's later i try again, i accept 1 a
day. There's advice in here to help you go & 🛑. At yer own risk. Psyllium?

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