Rare Cancer: Gynecologic Extramammary Paget's Disease

Posted by moffitt @moffitt, Sep 15, 2022

Extra Mammary Paget’s Disease - invasive cancer.
No know treatment or clinical trials.
Very rare and rarely studied.
Anyone else have it?

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@joyceinil

I'm just reading your post from May 6. I assume that is 2024? I'm wondering how your surgery went or did you opt for something else? What can you tell me about Aldara that you mentioned in your post.
Hope whatever method of treatment you chose that you are doing well.
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Hi yes it’s from this year. I’ll be seeing the gyn tomorrow and the dermatologist doc the week after. I’ll let you know how it goes. Everyone is still trying to
Decide which approach is best. No surgery yet.

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@nomikins

Sorry, Colleen, just seeing this now. Still learning how to navigate this platform. Thank you for your welcome and questions. Yes, that’s the trial I was referring to, but coming out to the Mayo Clinic right now is not an option.
Right now I am looking at doing Mohs surgery where I live. I am in the Bay Area and the team consists of Stanford doctors. I’m seeing a GYN and a Derm. The Derm is a specialist in Mohs surgery and the GYN appears to be very familiar with EMPD. So I feel I’m in good hands. But, I am hoping to find info. on less invasive treatments, like Aldara. They will review my options with me this Fri but I already know they believe the Mohs surgery is the best option for me. I’ve haven’t had surgery since I was much younger, so this is a big deal for me and I’m pretty freaked out. But keeping it together for the sake of my daughter.

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I'm just reading your post from May 6. I assume that is 2024? I'm wondering how your surgery went or did you opt for something else? What can you tell me about Aldara that you mentioned in your post.
Hope whatever method of treatment you chose that you are doing well.
To @nomikins

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I had surgery at Cedars Sinai in LA. they did wide incision and removed 3 lymph nodes, two of which had the cancer. that makes me 3A. The tricky thing about recovery from the surgery was getting in and out of bed because I couldn't sit. that was a week or 2, i honestly can't remember. about 3 weeks later I started radiation: 5 days a week for I think 6 weeks. That was ok until the last week and the 2 weeks after which were AWFUL!! I was in so much pain that with the permission of my oncologist I doubled the amount of codeine I was taking and ended up in the hospital with an overdose. Well that's behind me now. I started chemo maybe a month later and have my last one in 2 weeks. It's actually been quite easy. The oncologist said chemo was optional. There is so little research on extramammary pagets of the vulva that he said we couldn't make the decision based on it. I opted to do the chemo. no reaction until 3rd and it's been a couple of days of nausea - really nothing to complain about. As I said, I did the surgery in LA where I had previously been seen for breast cancer (2a) and had my breast cancer oncologist there. She recommended the surgeon and he recommended the radiologist. by the way, the surgeon didn't think i needed either radiation or chemo but the radiologist and the oncologist thought i needed both. I live too far from LA to have the radiation there, so I started seeing an oncologist at UCLA-Santa Barbara who recommended the radiologist. The Santa Barbara radiologist didn't think I needed chemo, but as I said, i did it anyway. Well that was a long story.

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@worried123

There are tests to determine whether immunotherapy will work - mine showed it would not, so i did not have immunotherapy after all. Instead I had a round of Chemo. Doing fine.

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So glad your treatment is working for you. Did you have any surgery before chemo? Was the chemo difficult to go through? What about the lesion? Did the chemo cause it to go away? As you can see I am full of questions. Just diagnosed and seeing an oncologist on June 19. Where did you go for treatment? What kind of oncologist are you seeing?
I appreciate any insight you can give me.

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@ameliae

I have doctor prescribed medical cannabis (THC) to put on it whenever needed - especially after urinating. Also a special water squirt bottle that dilutes urine so it burns less. There's a name for the bottle which I'll look up if you don't know what I mean. peri-something... I think. Anxiety is high - sometimes more than others. So far, it has been non-invasive and it's been there at least ten year - undiagnosed until April 2023. When I go out of Canada (where cannabis is legal) I had to do something else. Used a white cream Zincofax from the baby diaper rash section of the pharmacy --- seeing doctor in cannais clinic tomorrow. Will find out if there was a better option. He also prescribed cannabis liquid under tongue morning and night.

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Good morning! Oh dear: you are suffering. Too bad you are not in California because cannabis save is legal.... never put it there though but at every manifestation i am told to use Imiquimod. It treats the EMPD of the vulva manifestations. The itching and burning i have is from the Imiquimod that i take topically for like 8 weeks. My oncologist and I have found my tolerance level of side effects. i don't before itch and burn before treatment but a visual from my ob/gyn reveals skin manifestation. i have been told repeatedly that i need to look there every so often because one can see like an aging spot.... I was also told repeatedly that it is a slow growing pre cancer type of cancer. I am 68 and went to what I thought was my last pap smear at 65. There is no pap smear after 65 but it is recommended to get the visual exam once a year. I would be more comfortable if I could get the visual every 6 months. Cold pad wrapped in a towel, and alternatively hot pad wrapped also off and on when itchy and burning. sit bath also (seat bath?)... lidocaine to numb... other meds to help with itching burning... I am all for it since I don't tolerate this kind of pain... let me know how it goes for you over time. Blessings

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There are tests to determine whether immunotherapy will work - mine showed it would not, so i did not have immunotherapy after all. Instead I had a round of Chemo. Doing fine.

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@worried123

Thanks for the reference to myEmpd.com. I've read everything I found on googlescholar. I was diagnosed in Sept 23, had surgery Oct (one lymph node involved), did radiation with chemo (cisplatin) Dec-Jan 24. Having PET/CT tomorrow. One oncologist is suggesting additional chemo and one is suggesting immunotherapy. Surgeon said no to more chemo. First radiologist said yes to chemo. Second radiologist says no evidence more chemo will help and if i do anything, it should be immunotherapy. Docs are from excellent hospitals - Cedars Sinai and UCLA - just too little research. Anyone doing immunotherapy?

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Hello Worried. Thank you for sharing your story. Can you let us know what kind of Immunotherapy you are trying? How has it been so far? Thank you and wishing you a speedy and full recovery!

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@ameliae

I have doctor prescribed medical cannabis (THC) to put on it whenever needed - especially after urinating. Also a special water squirt bottle that dilutes urine so it burns less. There's a name for the bottle which I'll look up if you don't know what I mean. peri-something... I think. Anxiety is high - sometimes more than others. So far, it has been non-invasive and it's been there at least ten year - undiagnosed until April 2023. When I go out of Canada (where cannabis is legal) I had to do something else. Used a white cream Zincofax from the baby diaper rash section of the pharmacy --- seeing doctor in cannais clinic tomorrow. Will find out if there was a better option. He also prescribed cannabis liquid under tongue morning and night.

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Thank you for all that helpful info. I don't think I can use cannabis because I take a blood thinner, Eliquis. I am interested in the squirt bottle thing. And thanks also for the Zincofax hint. I use Desitin, also a diaper rash treatment, for other issues down there. But it did nothing for my lesion, which I now know is EMPD.

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@joyceinil

thank you so much for commenting. It's good to hear from others who have gone through this. Are you doing any kind of treatment? I have intense itching and soreness at the site. Are you able to be comfortable?

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I have doctor prescribed medical cannabis (THC) to put on it whenever needed - especially after urinating. Also a special water squirt bottle that dilutes urine so it burns less. There's a name for the bottle which I'll look up if you don't know what I mean. peri-something... I think. Anxiety is high - sometimes more than others. So far, it has been non-invasive and it's been there at least ten year - undiagnosed until April 2023. When I go out of Canada (where cannabis is legal) I had to do something else. Used a white cream Zincofax from the baby diaper rash section of the pharmacy --- seeing doctor in cannais clinic tomorrow. Will find out if there was a better option. He also prescribed cannabis liquid under tongue morning and night.

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@bijou68

Hello, Naomi: I had several spots all around the vulva area the last three years since the discovery, so my oncologist said surgery is not an option right now. Yes the treatment seems to keep things in check, but I am wondering about why the "manifestations" are coming so often. She has told me several times when I start to worry that, as long as I treat the new spots, I should be fine. Since EMPD can be found in the breast, I asked her if my disease could be spreading to the breast and she did not think so, but then again there seems to be not enough evidence or research.

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I am very new here and just learning the ropes. Just diagnosed. I thought surgery was the preferred treatment. May I ask what "treatment" is keeping things in check for you? I am 84 and probably can't stand surgery. Wondering if and what any other options are. From what I have read I get the idea that EMPD recurs a lot. Guess that's just the nature of the beast. My dermatologist has been treating me for lichen sclerosis for nearly three years before taking a biopsy last week.

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