Prostate Cancer Testing

Posted by sundancerdb78 @sundancerdb78, Apr 2 12:02pm

For those men out there who are worried about Prostate Cancer and getting tested!
Be aware that the medical profession does not think it is necessary for men over 75! I just found that out when I went to a Urologist on a referral from my PCP!
The Urologist laughed at me for requesting it, because I was over 75, I am 78!
He begrudgingly said he would do it! Luckily I am ok! Your PCP or whomever makes $$$ over the referrals!
I would ask anyone who have gone through this Scam to chime in!
Thanks,
Sundance aka RB

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It's fair to choose not to get tested — I'm not at all disagreeing with people who decide that — but there's no scam. We're talking about a $25 blood test at the lab, not a $$$ referral.

With many more men living into their 90s these days, early detection of the aggressive type of prostate cancer in your 70s could mean a (relatively) mild treatment now followed by a decade or more of quality life that you might not otherwise have.

Glad your test was negative.

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@sundancerdb78
If you were being treated at Mayo Jacksonville you would not be hearing that over 75 you don't need to check PSA or prostate cancer. I think that is old school in my opinion back when life expectancy was much lower than now nor with the new and excellent treatments for prostate cancer.

I have been having my PSA check since I was in my late 50s. When I started going to Mayo Jacksonville in 2006 I began seeing a PCP. I was 58 and my PCPs were doing PSA test. At that time they were optional do you want to check it? Then several years later my PCP said to me one during one visit that their research was showing more and more diagnoses of prostate cancers stage 4. He said they correlated the sharp rise in stage 4 to the non urgent and recommended testing for PSA. They (Mayo Jacksonville) changed that to back to testing PSA as the norm especially the rising of numbers over time.

I was being tested every 3 months when I was 73 as had rising numbers. My PSA was still at normal levels but had risen every PSA test done. My PCP referred me to urolgist who did biopsies and I was diagnosed with prostate cancer at age 76. Mayo Jacksonville doctors do not mirror the doctors you are gettng your information and I am glad they don't.

The lifespan of men and women has gone way up and most of that comes from new testing and new treatment for diseases. The longer life span does have some down turn as you can see much more Alzshmier (spell) diagnosis as we are living much longer. That disease is associated with later years of life.

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My second prostate biopsy was done at age 79 which showed cancer was 7 on the Gleason scale resulting in radiation treatment. I don't think test was done because of financial reasons but for concern for me the patient.

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@jc76

@sundancerdb78
If you were being treated at Mayo Jacksonville you would not be hearing that over 75 you don't need to check PSA or prostate cancer. I think that is old school in my opinion back when life expectancy was much lower than now nor with the new and excellent treatments for prostate cancer.

I have been having my PSA check since I was in my late 50s. When I started going to Mayo Jacksonville in 2006 I began seeing a PCP. I was 58 and my PCPs were doing PSA test. At that time they were optional do you want to check it? Then several years later my PCP said to me one during one visit that their research was showing more and more diagnoses of prostate cancers stage 4. He said they correlated the sharp rise in stage 4 to the non urgent and recommended testing for PSA. They (Mayo Jacksonville) changed that to back to testing PSA as the norm especially the rising of numbers over time.

I was being tested every 3 months when I was 73 as had rising numbers. My PSA was still at normal levels but had risen every PSA test done. My PCP referred me to urolgist who did biopsies and I was diagnosed with prostate cancer at age 76. Mayo Jacksonville doctors do not mirror the doctors you are gettng your information and I am glad they don't.

The lifespan of men and women has gone way up and most of that comes from new testing and new treatment for diseases. The longer life span does have some down turn as you can see much more Alzshmier (spell) diagnosis as we are living much longer. That disease is associated with later years of life.

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Sundancer
I turned 80 in January, and tomorrow I am having an MRI guided biopsy due to my PSA going up.
Don

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That was my point to the urologist was to do a PSA test to make sure there were no issues! Keep us posted Sir!
Good Luck!
Sundance

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@ronsale

My second prostate biopsy was done at age 79 which showed cancer was 7 on the Gleason scale resulting in radiation treatment. I don't think test was done because of financial reasons but for concern for me the patient.

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We are our advocates!
All the medical information says "it is unscary for those over 75!
Sundance

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@jc76

@sundancerdb78
If you were being treated at Mayo Jacksonville you would not be hearing that over 75 you don't need to check PSA or prostate cancer. I think that is old school in my opinion back when life expectancy was much lower than now nor with the new and excellent treatments for prostate cancer.

I have been having my PSA check since I was in my late 50s. When I started going to Mayo Jacksonville in 2006 I began seeing a PCP. I was 58 and my PCPs were doing PSA test. At that time they were optional do you want to check it? Then several years later my PCP said to me one during one visit that their research was showing more and more diagnoses of prostate cancers stage 4. He said they correlated the sharp rise in stage 4 to the non urgent and recommended testing for PSA. They (Mayo Jacksonville) changed that to back to testing PSA as the norm especially the rising of numbers over time.

I was being tested every 3 months when I was 73 as had rising numbers. My PSA was still at normal levels but had risen every PSA test done. My PCP referred me to urolgist who did biopsies and I was diagnosed with prostate cancer at age 76. Mayo Jacksonville doctors do not mirror the doctors you are gettng your information and I am glad they don't.

The lifespan of men and women has gone way up and most of that comes from new testing and new treatment for diseases. The longer life span does have some down turn as you can see much more Alzshmier (spell) diagnosis as we are living much longer. That disease is associated with later years of life.

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JC, you brought up a Great Point about Life Expectancy! A good friend of mine has been fighting cancer for years, lives in Ocala, that clinic has kept him alive!
My problem is I live a couple thousands of miles away in the Four Corners in New Mexico! We have one of the biggest shortages of doctors in the country!
The ones that are here are BAD!
The Scottsdale Mayo will only take referrals!
Luckily my PSA is Good!
But I do have other medical issues that no one here can ID. Either Lyme, Fibromyalgia or CIPD.
Good Luck!
Sundance

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@sundancerdb78

We are our advocates!
All the medical information says "it is unscary for those over 75!
Sundance

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It's an open debate right now. The problem is that 10–20 years ago, when life expectancy was shorter, diagnostic tools were weaker, and treatments were more limited, doctors were overtreating prostate cancer in older men "just to be safe." Then there was a pushback, assuming 75 year olds were going to die very soon anyway, so why waste time checking for or treating prostate cancer? 😕

These days, there are much better tools available (including active surveillance for very-low and sometimes even low-grade cancer), so the medical community no longer needs to take a "see-no-evil" eyes-closed approach to PSA over the age of 75, but it takes a long time for new practices to spread to smaller hospitals and individual practitioners, much less public websites.

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@northoftheborder

It's an open debate right now. The problem is that 10–20 years ago, when life expectancy was shorter, diagnostic tools were weaker, and treatments were more limited, doctors were overtreating prostate cancer in older men "just to be safe." Then there was a pushback, assuming 75 year olds were going to die very soon anyway, so why waste time checking for or treating prostate cancer? 😕

These days, there are much better tools available (including active surveillance for very-low and sometimes even low-grade cancer), so the medical community no longer needs to take a "see-no-evil" eyes-closed approach to PSA over the age of 75, but it takes a long time for new practices to spread to smaller hospitals and individual practitioners, much less public websites.

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@northoftheborder
Very well said. I think I said the same thing just not as good commuincator and writer as you are.

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@sundancerdb78

JC, you brought up a Great Point about Life Expectancy! A good friend of mine has been fighting cancer for years, lives in Ocala, that clinic has kept him alive!
My problem is I live a couple thousands of miles away in the Four Corners in New Mexico! We have one of the biggest shortages of doctors in the country!
The ones that are here are BAD!
The Scottsdale Mayo will only take referrals!
Luckily my PSA is Good!
But I do have other medical issues that no one here can ID. Either Lyme, Fibromyalgia or CIPD.
Good Luck!
Sundance

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@sundancerdb78
Ocala is south of me. I used to drive from Vero Beach (3 hours) to Mayo until I moved to Jacksonville area in 2015. We fell in love with a Del Webb Community here in Nocatee area. It has an indoor heated lap pool which we can use year round to walk, swim, water aerobics, etc.

When I read your comment about the quality of health care in your area I then realize I am fortunate to have Mayo clinic 20 minutes away.

When I first came to Mayo Jacksonville in 2006 they did not even have a hospital. They had one building the Davis building. Since then hospital built and keesp expanding upward and there are at least a dozen new buildings with all kinds of specialties.

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