Newly diagnosed with prostate cancer and still gathering information

Posted by brucemobile @brucemobile, Apr 3 9:59am

I was just diagnosed within the last two weeks. My PSA is 4.1 which I’m thinking isn’t that bad. I was not prepared for the results of the biopsy. Gleason 4+3 intermediate unfavorable. 13 of 15 cores positive. The urologist is favoring surgery. Second opinion also surgery but wants a Pet scan which is in the process of being scheduled. I am in Alabama and expect to be treated here. I am still in the asking questions and doing research stage, at this point I don’t know until after the pet scan if I have any options. The information on the post operative effects ofsurgery goes from mild to wild, I’m concerned. Anyone who can share their experiences would be appreciated.

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Profile picture for kjacko @kjacko

Good morning. After two MRIs and a biopsy that were negative, my second biopsy showed two cores of cancer, one at 3+4. I decided on surgery. My surgery went fine with NO incontinence issues, which I attribute to religiously doing Kegel exercises and an excellent surgeon. My surgeon told me I am one of the 10% who have no issues after surgery. However, my pathology report showed my cancer was actually 4+5 with clear margins and no spreading to lymph nodes. Since then, I have had 5 PSA tests which have all come back at < 0.01 undetectable. Always hoping and praying for more of this in the future. My advice to is: do as much as you can to get accurate cancer scores; and at least from my perspective, the surgery was my best option. All the Best!

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Are you on ADT? With a Gleason nine there is a chance of this coming back aggressively. Are you still working with a urologist Or have you moved on to an oncologist?

As I’ve mentioned before, some people I’ve known with a Gleason nine are still around 30 years later.

I wish you the best of luck in the future.

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Good morning. After two MRIs and a biopsy that were negative, my second biopsy showed two cores of cancer, one at 3+4. I decided on surgery. My surgery went fine with NO incontinence issues, which I attribute to religiously doing Kegel exercises and an excellent surgeon. My surgeon told me I am one of the 10% who have no issues after surgery. However, my pathology report showed my cancer was actually 4+5 with clear margins and no spreading to lymph nodes. Since then, I have had 5 PSA tests which have all come back at < 0.01 undetectable. Always hoping and praying for more of this in the future. My advice to is: do as much as you can to get accurate cancer scores; and at least from my perspective, the surgery was my best option. All the Best!

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glennh23, It seems to be more effective than lupron without flares and a quicker return of testosterone after treatment. While it was approved here in 2021, it has been a slow pickup.
Not exactly fun, though. It has a higher patient rating than lupron, meaning the side effects weren't as bad.

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It’s ORGOVYX - not new in the US. I never had Lupron so I cannot compare SE’s.
But my experience was not bad and more annoying than life-ruining. Others were not so lucky. Best,
Phil

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Profile picture for glennh23 @glennh23

Hi guys, this is a new drug. What’s just been released in the UK have a look and see what you think.It’s Relugolix. It comes in tablet form looks quite promising.

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glennh23, It seems to be more effective than lupron without flares and a quicker return of testosterone after treatment. While it was approved here in 2021, it has been a slow pickup.
Not exactly fun, though. It has a higher patient rating than lupron, meaning the side effects weren't as bad.

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Profile picture for glennh23 @glennh23

Hi guys, this is a new drug. What’s just been released in the UK have a look and see what you think.It’s Relugolix. It comes in tablet form looks quite promising.

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Hi @glennh23 The word "new" is relative. What is new in UK is not as new in USA. Or in Canada. In this support group, there have been several posts about the new drug's effectiveness. But thanks for your post.b

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Hi guys, this is a new drug. What’s just been released in the UK have a look and see what you think.It’s Relugolix. It comes in tablet form looks quite promising.

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Yeah, get you. A friend, who is an Internist and helps people with this very question, had RP. He wanted it out. He is my age. 1+ year later he feels great. Recovered nicely all functionality.
I’m betting a bit on the technology. If I can do something precise enough and kick it down the road, I might be able to do something similar later. Anyway, I appreciate the reminder. My best to you!

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Robert, when you say ‘something precise enough’ are you talking about focal therapies such as HIFU or TulsaPro?
Phil

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@robertov, thanks but it’s a little late for me. I already had surgery at age 64 - Gleason 4+3 Unfavorable. Very High volume.
When PSA climbs after surgery it’s watched carefully and when it accelerates it’s time to act. 5 yrs in my case.
Some docs start at levels lower than 0.2, others a but higher in the hope PSMA might show something (usually doesn’t).
At age 73 your preference for radiation is certainly understandable - I might have opted for it myself but I was too “young” and the chance for recurrence was high. I wanted more than one chance to hit back and I got it. After that, who knows?
Phil

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Yeah, get you. A friend, who is an Internist and helps people with this very question, had RP. He wanted it out. He is my age. 1+ year later he feels great. Recovered nicely all functionality.
I’m betting a bit on the technology. If I can do something precise enough and kick it down the road, I might be able to do something similar later. Anyway, I appreciate the reminder. My best to you!

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JC76, if you contact PCRI the are located in Culver City California, they also have lots information online that you may find beneficial. Your PSMA pet scan will give you a better sense of treatment direction, My Gleason is 9 and I’m waiting for the Pet scan next week also to decide, one thing I know finding the best surgeon or radiologist it’s half the battle.

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I'm 67, diagnosed in July. Gleason originally was 4+3. I had the surgery in November, and they determined my Gleason was 4+5 with some spread to the bladder neck. My first PSA is undetectable but I'm still working on incontinence. I'm happy I did the surgery because my cancer was more aggressive than the biopsy showed. Doctor said it "could have been fatal." Recurrence seems likely in my case,

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It’s amazing what surgery finds, even though I was totally against it at first.
My surgeon found bladder cancer during my procedure and told me that radiation might have pushed it into a more aggressive grade.
It was treated with BCG infusions and was said to be in remission before my recent 25 salvage sessions.
Hoping that the radiation doesn’t wake that sleeping dog!
Phil

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