Nerve damage after spine fusion

Posted by sbtheplumber1 @sbtheplumber1, Jan 28 12:15am

I’ve shared on others posts not a new one. I have spinal stenosis , I had a spine fusion in April 2023 L4-S1 L5 was loose, 3 weeks after my surgery a friend didn’t know I had surgery and came up behind me while I was sitting in a metal fold up chair and placed his hands on my shoulders and twisted me. The next week the NP said it might be a delay but shouldn’t bother me and that I could start twisting , bending and lifting upto 30 lbs ( I still couldn’t lift a gallon of milk) I went home and showered that night bending down to dry my legs and I could feel a sting across my back. About June had an epidural done still no relief( more MRI’s that the surgeon says why) he never looked at my back just said he couldn’t do anything else it’s all healed go get a pain stimulator. After failed therapy pain doctor agreed somethings wrong so he sent me to another surgeon, he done another mri same thing get a stimulator. I was admitted in the ER and seen another surgeon who said get a stimulator. Since the surgery I’ve had testicle pain that switches sides depending which side of back is flared plus anus pain (bowels won’t move right, hurts to fart) My urologist recommended Pelvic therapy (that’s for women) I tried it and found out my tailbone was bent after therapy bowels done good then the next week she had me use a foam roller on a door for my back since I couldn’t get in the floor and instantly the nerves were triggered in my legs, I tried another stretch that made it even worse. Now 1 -1/2 weeks later I am still aching 24/7 from the incision to my feet. Nerves zapping everywhere , plus sciatic is so bad an electric blanket irritates it. At one time I had a nerve on my right leg being triggered by the bass at church so I had to switch to setting in the entry way where it’s concrete to avoid vibration on the wood floor. Gabapentin, cymbalta, hydrocodone all low doses and no relief . I spoke to another surgeons office that said it has to be a year since the surgery before they will see you. Has anyone else had nerve pains this bad and told deal with? I’m concerned they know somethings wrong and don’t want to admit it. Where do I draw the line after I loose bowel control and unable to walk? Does anyone else have surgeons not look at your back after the initial follow up? $84,000 surgery apparently Peyton Manning must of tipped him because he done his surgery and haven’t heard any complaints. Just a miserable 51 year old that also has bulging disc in my neck that they won’t touch, and being out of work for a year is tough. Not to mention the heart and lung issues, a detached vitreous gel in my eye that I found out this past year . Will be happy to answer any questions and appreciate any and all prayers

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@sbtheplumber1
You are too young to be dealing with all of this pain. I am soon to be turning 55 and have cervical and lumbar stenosis and DDD. I had ACDF surgery on my C5-C6 due to symptoms below this level (arms/legs/hands/feet/bladder, headaches, neck/shoulder pain, etc.). What level do you have the disc issue in your neck? Have you had EMGs for upper and lower limbs by a neurologist to check nerve health/strength and to see which nerves in particular are being affected post surgery? Did you have a baseline EMG before surgery?

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@sbtheplumber1
Do you know where they injected the spine steroid/lidocaine (what level)? If they don’t inject in the right place, you won’t get relief. They need to know, based on MRI/x-ray what levels are compressing spinal cord/nerve roots. Were you told where doctors believe your source of pain is? Do whatever you can for diet, supplements, etc. to support nerve health. If necessary, you may want to see if the Bonati Spine Institute in FL could help you. They have helped many who had botched surgeries.

https://www.bonati.com/
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I developed hypersensitive peripheral nerves soon after cervical surgery in late 2022. First reacted to metal(basically all) with burning and cold patches, tightening of muscles. Progressed to fabrics(clothing, furniture fabrics and leather). Continue to see neurosurgeon every 6 months as c5-c6 didn’t fuse. Wants to do more surgery through back of neck placing 2 *metal* rods to hold vertebrae. Might help with hypersensitivity, might not. He hasn’t been a lot of help. I had a blood test done privately to determine what metal s I’m allergic to—none. Then metal patch test at Cleveland Clinic—negative for metals. Referred on to rheumatology and neurology(different neurologist). Many tests later dismissed from rheumatology but still seeing neurologist. On gabapentin(pain) and baclofen(muscle spasms) with Tylenol as chaser. One of the medical nurses or doctors said that surgeons are done with you after surgery and don’t want to deal with anything developing afterwards. Neurologist has said I might just have to live with the chronic nervous system hypersensitivity and learn ways to help with the pain. Hope you can find the help you need quickly but you are your best advocate so educate yourself on what’s happening with your body and push hard for treatment including testing. Good luck!

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@dlydailyhope

@sbtheplumber1
You are too young to be dealing with all of this pain. I am soon to be turning 55 and have cervical and lumbar stenosis and DDD. I had ACDF surgery on my C5-C6 due to symptoms below this level (arms/legs/hands/feet/bladder, headaches, neck/shoulder pain, etc.). What level do you have the disc issue in your neck? Have you had EMGs for upper and lower limbs by a neurologist to check nerve health/strength and to see which nerves in particular are being affected post surgery? Did you have a baseline EMG before surgery?

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I believe it’s c 7 but others are starting to bulge. I’m going Friday for a swallow study again and the next Friday for a scope , I was starting to choke more and told last swallow study showed the flap in the throat getting caught not allowing food thru like it should. My right shoulder has dropped about 2 inches from weakness in the neck. 2 weeks ago after doing therapy that night my whole right side of my face went in pain the eye socket, cheek and jaw bone, head and neck. It all went away and xcept an occasional mild headache. I had an EMG on my neck in January nothing severe enough for surgery. They never done an EMG on my back and legs my loose disc was enough to convince them to do surgery. Now I wish I would have taken my chances of falling instead of having surgery.

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@dlydailyhope

@sbtheplumber1
Do you know where they injected the spine steroid/lidocaine (what level)? If they don’t inject in the right place, you won’t get relief. They need to know, based on MRI/x-ray what levels are compressing spinal cord/nerve roots. Were you told where doctors believe your source of pain is? Do whatever you can for diet, supplements, etc. to support nerve health. If necessary, you may want to see if the Bonati Spine Institute in FL could help you. They have helped many who had botched surgeries.

https://www.bonati.com/

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I had a new MRI before the injection and nothing showed so he tried the area I described to him if I remember right. I had thought of going to Cleveland or Mayo or now maybe checking into Bonati . I just finally got my disability last month after 8 months of no income. I also knew I couldn’t make a 3 hour drive to Cleveland and I’ve never flown so not sure I could make it to Florida

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@web28

I developed hypersensitive peripheral nerves soon after cervical surgery in late 2022. First reacted to metal(basically all) with burning and cold patches, tightening of muscles. Progressed to fabrics(clothing, furniture fabrics and leather). Continue to see neurosurgeon every 6 months as c5-c6 didn’t fuse. Wants to do more surgery through back of neck placing 2 *metal* rods to hold vertebrae. Might help with hypersensitivity, might not. He hasn’t been a lot of help. I had a blood test done privately to determine what metal s I’m allergic to—none. Then metal patch test at Cleveland Clinic—negative for metals. Referred on to rheumatology and neurology(different neurologist). Many tests later dismissed from rheumatology but still seeing neurologist. On gabapentin(pain) and baclofen(muscle spasms) with Tylenol as chaser. One of the medical nurses or doctors said that surgeons are done with you after surgery and don’t want to deal with anything developing afterwards. Neurologist has said I might just have to live with the chronic nervous system hypersensitivity and learn ways to help with the pain. Hope you can find the help you need quickly but you are your best advocate so educate yourself on what’s happening with your body and push hard for treatment including testing. Good luck!

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@web28 I agree on the doctor not wanting to do anything else! I’ve done a lot of research and will continue! The surgeon said nothings wrong everything’s healed , doesn’t recommend any more surgeries , but never got me out of the wheelchair to check where my symptoms were just a sorry it didn’t help. That makes me wonder if he’s hiding something and don’t want me to have it investigated

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Hope not but if you decide to pursue it go to a different hospital system as doctors and surgeons tend to protect each other’s diagnosis. My neurosurgeon tried to say the same, successful surgery and the hypersensitivity would go away. Didn’t refer me to anyone else which meant precious time to possibly reverse it was lost. So frustrating.

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@sbtheplumber1

@web28 I agree on the doctor not wanting to do anything else! I’ve done a lot of research and will continue! The surgeon said nothings wrong everything’s healed , doesn’t recommend any more surgeries , but never got me out of the wheelchair to check where my symptoms were just a sorry it didn’t help. That makes me wonder if he’s hiding something and don’t want me to have it investigated

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@sbtheplumber1
I really feel for you and agree that surgeons and some doctors don’t want to look further after surgery. They seem to give up and don’t want to deal with chronic pain patients which is why you need to get new doctors and 2nd, 3rd, + opinions. You really need to advocate for yourself and not give up no matter how dysfunctional the healthcare system is. I also had swallowing and speaking issues and I believe tied to neurological issues at the cervical spine. You may have cervical spondylotic myelopathy. That is what I was finally diagnosed with. Multiple doctors, surgeons and neurologists ignored my MRI results showing spinal cord flattening/compression. and spinal cord neurological symptoms in arms/hands, legs/feet, etc. which caused weakness, pain, numbness, difficulty walking (like I had cement boots on), loss of bladder control, dropping things/weak hands/poor handwriting, etc. Have you read your cervical spine MRI report to see if it shows spinal cord flattening/compressions, slipped disc or disc bulge pressing on spinal cord/nerve roots, bone spurs/osteophytes, and cervical spine levels with the worst problems? You need to get copies of your MRI reports and CDs so you can take them to new doctors in the future for fresh eyes on your issues. After 6 years of going in circles, I finally went to a new spine surgeon and in my first appointment, he looked at my former MRI and listened to all my symptoms, had me walk for him (which showed my balance issues), did a few simple tests in the office, and said he wanted to get an updated MRI. The 2nd appointment he confirmed that I had cervical spondylotic myelopathy and it was serious and that he recommended surgery or my symptoms will worsen and be permanent (permanent injury to spinal cord affecting all communications from brain to/from your body below the cervical spine levels of compression). This is possibly causing more problems or aggravating your lumbar spine issues (I also have L3-S1 problems and need surgery).

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@dlydailyhope

@sbtheplumber1
I really feel for you and agree that surgeons and some doctors don’t want to look further after surgery. They seem to give up and don’t want to deal with chronic pain patients which is why you need to get new doctors and 2nd, 3rd, + opinions. You really need to advocate for yourself and not give up no matter how dysfunctional the healthcare system is. I also had swallowing and speaking issues and I believe tied to neurological issues at the cervical spine. You may have cervical spondylotic myelopathy. That is what I was finally diagnosed with. Multiple doctors, surgeons and neurologists ignored my MRI results showing spinal cord flattening/compression. and spinal cord neurological symptoms in arms/hands, legs/feet, etc. which caused weakness, pain, numbness, difficulty walking (like I had cement boots on), loss of bladder control, dropping things/weak hands/poor handwriting, etc. Have you read your cervical spine MRI report to see if it shows spinal cord flattening/compressions, slipped disc or disc bulge pressing on spinal cord/nerve roots, bone spurs/osteophytes, and cervical spine levels with the worst problems? You need to get copies of your MRI reports and CDs so you can take them to new doctors in the future for fresh eyes on your issues. After 6 years of going in circles, I finally went to a new spine surgeon and in my first appointment, he looked at my former MRI and listened to all my symptoms, had me walk for him (which showed my balance issues), did a few simple tests in the office, and said he wanted to get an updated MRI. The 2nd appointment he confirmed that I had cervical spondylotic myelopathy and it was serious and that he recommended surgery or my symptoms will worsen and be permanent (permanent injury to spinal cord affecting all communications from brain to/from your body below the cervical spine levels of compression). This is possibly causing more problems or aggravating your lumbar spine issues (I also have L3-S1 problems and need surgery).

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I will look at my MRI’s again when I get home, I cant remember what all was duagnosed I do remember spinal and cervical stenosis and the bulging cervical disc. I’ve been to surgeon #4 and they all say fusion is healed but won’t look into the new problems. I read all the dr reports, test reports, every website I can research which a lot is Mayo Clinic info. Last surgeon sent me to a hip doctor thinking it’s my hip which seen a little bursitis but nothing causing my pain. Now as I set her my right light leg has a pulsation coming and going and the burning is starting in that leg as well

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