Median Arcuate Ligament Syndrome (MALS)

Posted by Kari Ulrich, Alumna Mentor @kariulrich, Dec 26, 2016

I am looking for other patients that have been diagnosed with Median Arcuate Ligament Syndrome. Although it is caused by compression of the celiac artery many people experience abdominal pain after eating, diarrhea, food avoidance. Usually the first doctors they see are GI doctors. It is a diagnosis that is made after everything else is ruled out. I am curious if anyone else has had surgery?

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@jhmontrose

Jayson, I can relate. When I had my initial diagnosis in 2015 I saw so many GI docs and most of them were so incredibly dismissive. My first one seemed to have only one answer: take more prilosec, take protonix, double up on protonix. So I finally said to him "is that your only answer, take more acid suppressants?" and he got visibly angry at me and said "do you want to get well?" So condescending. Then I had an ER doc accuse me of just being a drug seeker and sending me home after zero tests. After doing every GI test imaginable I finally saw an RN at an urgent care office who looked at my history and offered to make some calls for me on her lunch break. She set me up with a young GI specialist who ordered a HIDA scan (all clear) and the mesenteric artery ultrasound that finally diagnosed me. If it wasn't for those two, I have no idea how much longer it would have gone on.

Unfortunately, like you, I am having a recurrence of symptoms after 5 years. Last night was the worst night I've had since 2015, sharp pain building up, had to take an oxycodone and sleep propped up, then I still woke up nauseous. That has been my worst symptom and thankfully this time around, I am not having too much trouble eating. Once I get up and move around the nausea fades but pain persists. I'm getting a nerve block done next week and hoping the pain care center will also offer me some help over the next few weeks while I wait for what I expect to be a second surgery.

As far as seeing a new surgeon, I would at least google search and see what other patients have reported. The one I've been consulting is very young but has a special interest in MALS. Another surgery is scary to think about but so is living with constant bouts of pain/nausea.

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@jhmontrose

Jayson, I can relate. When I had my initial diagnosis in 2015 I saw so many GI docs and most of them were so incredibly dismissive. My first one seemed to have only one answer: take more prilosec, take protonix, double up on protonix. So I finally said to him "is that your only answer, take more acid suppressants?" and he got visibly angry at me and said "do you want to get well?" So condescending. Then I had an ER doc accuse me of just being a drug seeker and sending me home after zero tests. After doing every GI test imaginable I finally saw an RN at an urgent care office who looked at my history and offered to make some calls for me on her lunch break. She set me up with a young GI specialist who ordered a HIDA scan (all clear) and the mesenteric artery ultrasound that finally diagnosed me. If it wasn't for those two, I have no idea how much longer it would have gone on.

Unfortunately, like you, I am having a recurrence of symptoms after 5 years. Last night was the worst night I've had since 2015, sharp pain building up, had to take an oxycodone and sleep propped up, then I still woke up nauseous. That has been my worst symptom and thankfully this time around, I am not having too much trouble eating. Once I get up and move around the nausea fades but pain persists. I'm getting a nerve block done next week and hoping the pain care center will also offer me some help over the next few weeks while I wait for what I expect to be a second surgery.

As far as seeing a new surgeon, I would at least google search and see what other patients have reported. The one I've been consulting is very young but has a special interest in MALS. Another surgery is scary to think about but so is living with constant bouts of pain/nausea.

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My surgeon, Dr. Hsu in Stamford, Ct was amazing. He has a 92% success rate with MALS and is a Nuevo-Vascular surgeon. He has done almost 400 MALS open surgeries. I chose to fly from Phoenix to Ct. bc I didn’t want to do this again. It’s worth the extra effort. Hope you find someone.

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@ukmalsman

Hi @chicken

Again, I have to agree with @lasirvent, Lactulose is a great way to increase intestinal motility. I was given it many years ago after a laparotomy which basically caused my intestines to shut down completely. It took a while to get going again but the Lactulose worked.

I stopped using Lactulose in favour of a more natural remedy, so I started eating liquorice daily. I didn't eat too much and it is important to let you know that eating a lot of liquorice daily can reduce your potassium levels which in turn can cause high blood pressure. It is always best to discuss with your primary practitioner as a lot of liquorice can interact with certain meds like warfarin.

However, the benefits of eating liquorice for digestive problems and other conditions can be great, it is thought to have antimicrobial, anti-inflammatory and antiviral properties too. Just make sure that if you buy liquorice sweets, they actually contain liquorice plant extract, as many sweet sold as liquorice don't have any liquorice in them at all. You can get deglycyrrhizinated liquorice as over the counter supplements, this stops the possibility of those side effects as the cause, (glycyrrhizic acid) is extracted. But I'm a liquorice sweet fan and enjoy the yummy taste of the sweets! Look up the benefits of deglycyrrhizinated liquorice if you are wanting an over the counter remedy.

Mark

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That’s funny! I used to eat licorice all the time! I’m going to give that a try. What brand do you use?

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@jhmontrose

Jayson, I can relate. When I had my initial diagnosis in 2015 I saw so many GI docs and most of them were so incredibly dismissive. My first one seemed to have only one answer: take more prilosec, take protonix, double up on protonix. So I finally said to him "is that your only answer, take more acid suppressants?" and he got visibly angry at me and said "do you want to get well?" So condescending. Then I had an ER doc accuse me of just being a drug seeker and sending me home after zero tests. After doing every GI test imaginable I finally saw an RN at an urgent care office who looked at my history and offered to make some calls for me on her lunch break. She set me up with a young GI specialist who ordered a HIDA scan (all clear) and the mesenteric artery ultrasound that finally diagnosed me. If it wasn't for those two, I have no idea how much longer it would have gone on.

Unfortunately, like you, I am having a recurrence of symptoms after 5 years. Last night was the worst night I've had since 2015, sharp pain building up, had to take an oxycodone and sleep propped up, then I still woke up nauseous. That has been my worst symptom and thankfully this time around, I am not having too much trouble eating. Once I get up and move around the nausea fades but pain persists. I'm getting a nerve block done next week and hoping the pain care center will also offer me some help over the next few weeks while I wait for what I expect to be a second surgery.

As far as seeing a new surgeon, I would at least google search and see what other patients have reported. The one I've been consulting is very young but has a special interest in MALS. Another surgery is scary to think about but so is living with constant bouts of pain/nausea.

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I can only imagine how your feeling and going through. My symptoms started back up with the pain and discomfort that came from eating. The pain starts below my sternum and rib area. I get a burning and knocking the air feeling. Nausea and having very low energy due to my pain. Again I'm hopeful that my new vascular surgeon helps in this journey to getting well. However, if she doesn't then my general surgeon said the next option would be to have another open surgery to remove the scar tissue. He stated that he has never done two open surgery before and it's very risky to do. My first surgery was a 4-hour ordeal. The ligament that he had to cut was extremely difficult to remove. He said the risky part was the surgery would more than likely be double the time because of the scar tissue that is built up. Well, I pray that your pain and discomfort go away when you get the nerve block.

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@jayson

The original surgeon I feel was very good. He took the time to listen to me and was very understanding. He was the only one who believed me unlike others I dealt with. My first vascular surgeon laughed at me and said that your celiac artery wasn't the problem. That it was all just in my head. It wasn't until Dr. Lowery sent me out for another Doppler US. My velocities were from 580 to 620. After that, the original vascular surgeon sent a certified letter stating my health was in danger and I needed to see him ASAP. LOL! So I'm very reluctant to see this new vascular surgeon her name is Jenny Cho. She's out of KU MED CENTER IN KS. So I have an appointment on April 8th and we will see what she wants to do. I feel she will just blow me off as the other did. It sad people go to their doctors and they just look at you as nothing is wrong. It's their arrogance that comes through when they don't know about MALS. However, I believe I found a good general surgeon who listens and is willing to do what is right for me.

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Jayson, I can relate. When I had my initial diagnosis in 2015 I saw so many GI docs and most of them were so incredibly dismissive. My first one seemed to have only one answer: take more prilosec, take protonix, double up on protonix. So I finally said to him "is that your only answer, take more acid suppressants?" and he got visibly angry at me and said "do you want to get well?" So condescending. Then I had an ER doc accuse me of just being a drug seeker and sending me home after zero tests. After doing every GI test imaginable I finally saw an RN at an urgent care office who looked at my history and offered to make some calls for me on her lunch break. She set me up with a young GI specialist who ordered a HIDA scan (all clear) and the mesenteric artery ultrasound that finally diagnosed me. If it wasn't for those two, I have no idea how much longer it would have gone on.

Unfortunately, like you, I am having a recurrence of symptoms after 5 years. Last night was the worst night I've had since 2015, sharp pain building up, had to take an oxycodone and sleep propped up, then I still woke up nauseous. That has been my worst symptom and thankfully this time around, I am not having too much trouble eating. Once I get up and move around the nausea fades but pain persists. I'm getting a nerve block done next week and hoping the pain care center will also offer me some help over the next few weeks while I wait for what I expect to be a second surgery.

As far as seeing a new surgeon, I would at least google search and see what other patients have reported. The one I've been consulting is very young but has a special interest in MALS. Another surgery is scary to think about but so is living with constant bouts of pain/nausea.

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@astaingegerdm

@jayson - It is very upsetting to get the symptoms back. I did after 6 months. They did another angio CT and saw that the artery had not opened up after the pressure from the ligament was removed.
The plan was to try placing a stent- I was warned that if that failed they would have to open up and repair artery.
Do you have confidence in your surgeon?

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The original surgeon I feel was very good. He took the time to listen to me and was very understanding. He was the only one who believed me unlike others I dealt with. My first vascular surgeon laughed at me and said that your celiac artery wasn't the problem. That it was all just in my head. It wasn't until Dr. Lowery sent me out for another Doppler US. My velocities were from 580 to 620. After that, the original vascular surgeon sent a certified letter stating my health was in danger and I needed to see him ASAP. LOL! So I'm very reluctant to see this new vascular surgeon her name is Jenny Cho. She's out of KU MED CENTER IN KS. So I have an appointment on April 8th and we will see what she wants to do. I feel she will just blow me off as the other did. It sad people go to their doctors and they just look at you as nothing is wrong. It's their arrogance that comes through when they don't know about MALS. However, I believe I found a good general surgeon who listens and is willing to do what is right for me.

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@jayson - It is very upsetting to get the symptoms back. I did after 6 months. They did another angio CT and saw that the artery had not opened up after the pressure from the ligament was removed.
The plan was to try placing a stent- I was warned that if that failed they would have to open up and repair artery.
Do you have confidence in your surgeon?

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@astaingegerdm

@jhmontrose - I had the surgery January 2015. All well until 6 months later when symptoms recurred. CT angio showed the celiac artery still had not returned to normal shape after the ligament was removed- it had compressed the artery. A vascular surgeon placed a stent that has worked so far. The next step would be open surgery to repair the artery. They removed the nerve bundles in the first surgery.
I had been told at the first surgery it was a 50-50 chance it would work. There are many patients that require more surgery. This is not a condition that is promised to go away, unfortunately.
The CT angio that you had done locally probably was not done the way the specialists require.

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Hello. I've been on here before and was diagnosed with MALS and had laparoscopic that was converted to open in 2019. I was pain-free for a year and now started having the old symptoms return. Pain after eating, bloating, and nausea. So I decided to go back to my primary and he sent me to get a Doppler US which was difficult in seeing my celiac artery because of a large gas bubble. However, she did get my velocity clocked in at 261 which the doctor said that my the celiac artery was probable 70% blocked. So now I went to my surgeon Dr. Lowery on what I should do since I was still having pain. He said that it's possible that the artery could have closed up after surgery, or the scar tissue has built up and is causing the artery issues. So now I'm waiting to see a vascular surgeon to see what the next step is. Moreover, Dr. Lowery said the worst-case scenario would be opening me back up again and removing the scar tissue. Which he said it could be a very long surgery and a very risky one. So, has anyone, had the experience of this reoccur and what was the outcome? Thanks

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@chicken

Hi!
Has anyone experienced decreased motility after Mals surgery?
I had my surgery almost two years ago and it was Thank G-D very successful, I no longer have that pain after eating and all the other symptoms.

I am still really struggling with motility thought and it surprisingly got worse after my surgery. Has anyone experienced this? If so what do you do about it?
I’ve been on just about every medication for it and the only thing that has worked is Linzess in a very high dosage, but is now stopping to work. My doctor is recommending that I now try Motegrity, have any of you taken this? What is your experience with it?
Thank you in advance

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Hi @chicken

Again, I have to agree with @lasirvent, Lactulose is a great way to increase intestinal motility. I was given it many years ago after a laparotomy which basically caused my intestines to shut down completely. It took a while to get going again but the Lactulose worked.

I stopped using Lactulose in favour of a more natural remedy, so I started eating liquorice daily. I didn't eat too much and it is important to let you know that eating a lot of liquorice daily can reduce your potassium levels which in turn can cause high blood pressure. It is always best to discuss with your primary practitioner as a lot of liquorice can interact with certain meds like warfarin.

However, the benefits of eating liquorice for digestive problems and other conditions can be great, it is thought to have antimicrobial, anti-inflammatory and antiviral properties too. Just make sure that if you buy liquorice sweets, they actually contain liquorice plant extract, as many sweet sold as liquorice don't have any liquorice in them at all. You can get deglycyrrhizinated liquorice as over the counter supplements, this stops the possibility of those side effects as the cause, (glycyrrhizic acid) is extracted. But I'm a liquorice sweet fan and enjoy the yummy taste of the sweets! Look up the benefits of deglycyrrhizinated liquorice if you are wanting an over the counter remedy.

Mark

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@tonlop628

Hi, I am getting ready to have the CT scan this week for MALS. I already had the ultrasound and my cardiologist who treats me for Dysautonomia says I do have MALS. Is the surgery really as scary as it sounds?

I have been stressing about it but really cannot live with the pain and nausea I have. I have a bunch of other syndromes with one being Fibromyalgia. The MALS symptoms seem to be triggering my other pain from Fibromyalgia. I just need relief and now I feel that I cannot eat or workout. I am glad I found this group for support.

Tonya

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Hi @tonlop628

Welcome to the group. @lasirvent has mentioned the longer it goes on the worse it gets. I can vouch for this as my operation was cancelled here in the UK last April. I was already at a chronic stage with only a few foods that didn't send the pain into the stratosphere. Nearly a year on and there are no foods I can eat, I am losing 2kg a month which provides another challenge; keeping my BMI above the minimum for surgery.

Try not to stress about the surgery, in my eyes it is a far better alternative to worsening pain. Keep us updated.

Mark

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