Invasive Lobular Carcinoma Pleomorphic Level 3 (Oncotype Score 34)

Posted by ilcpfighter @ilcpfightee, Sep 8, 2022

I was diagnosed with ILC Pleomorphic Type Level 3. I am waiting for my Oncotype and was wondering if anyone here had a similar diagnosis and what your Oncotype Score was? Mine was ER+ PR- HER2 -. Waiting is so hard!

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@windyshores

@delormv the doc's name is Otto Metzger

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I see Dr. Caroline Block at Dana and asked if she had any specifics on lobular and honestly I just hope they share knowledge and lobular just doesn't seem studied! Has anyone met with Dr Metzger or a lobular specialist. I had to beg to get a 6 month alternating MRI as I have high density still at 58 yrs old. But now my oncologist said she would sign off on MRI and I believe it is because the Radiologic Task force didn't think the new breast mammo guidelines went far enough as they support the FIND IT EARLY bill that is slowly getting on Congress' docket!

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@sybille

My heart goes out to you,as I know how difficult and overwhelming the beginning of this journey is.The many questions,fear of the unknown,and the sheer impact of such news alone are very difficult and challenging to handleEven though everything might be in turmoil at the moment,once there's a plan in place,regarding treatment options,a timeline as to what is the next step after diagnosis,what kind of surgery,what treatment follows next,when does it start,how long will it continue-once,these steps are known,it will help to ease the chaos and adjust psychologically to life turned upside down.One day at a time,one step at a time.Your daughter seems to have good medical facilities available,and,with that,the best care.That is a great relief!The fact that lymph nodes don't seem to be affected is encouraging news,though I have no knowledge about tissue involvement,(I had cancer in the lymphnodes and the lymphatic system,meaning blood stream,which was a not so good sign,but,chemo and radiation took care of even that).I also tried to follow the advice of only dealing with the situation on a day by day basis and concentrating on the present ,but not worrying about what might happen tomorrow,thus speculating and adding extra worry.Though I didn't always succeed,it was of great help and it has become my way of life.
I wish you,your wife,and,especially your daughter, strength,a positive mindset and mental energy,to guide you through your journey(and,yes,there will be days of feeling exhausted,hopeless and seemingly unable to cope,until we gather ourselves ,get up and keep going!)
All the best to you,
Sybille,from Vancouver,Canada

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Thank you.

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My heart goes out to you,as I know how difficult and overwhelming the beginning of this journey is.The many questions,fear of the unknown,and the sheer impact of such news alone are very difficult and challenging to handleEven though everything might be in turmoil at the moment,once there's a plan in place,regarding treatment options,a timeline as to what is the next step after diagnosis,what kind of surgery,what treatment follows next,when does it start,how long will it continue-once,these steps are known,it will help to ease the chaos and adjust psychologically to life turned upside down.One day at a time,one step at a time.Your daughter seems to have good medical facilities available,and,with that,the best care.That is a great relief!The fact that lymph nodes don't seem to be affected is encouraging news,though I have no knowledge about tissue involvement,(I had cancer in the lymphnodes and the lymphatic system,meaning blood stream,which was a not so good sign,but,chemo and radiation took care of even that).I also tried to follow the advice of only dealing with the situation on a day by day basis and concentrating on the present ,but not worrying about what might happen tomorrow,thus speculating and adding extra worry.Though I didn't always succeed,it was of great help and it has become my way of life.
I wish you,your wife,and,especially your daughter, strength,a positive mindset and mental energy,to guide you through your journey(and,yes,there will be days of feeling exhausted,hopeless and seemingly unable to cope,until we gather ourselves ,get up and keep going!)
All the best to you,
Sybille,from Vancouver,Canada

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@sybille

I was diagnosed with invasive,lobular carcinoma ,grade 2,stage 3, 10years ago.After a double mastectomy,I had a break for three weeks,after which I was on chemo sessions,once every three weeks,for four months,followed by radiotherapy with 15 sessions.Without chemo my chance of recurrence was 75-I have never heard of chemotherapy not working for lobular cancer.My tumor was 11cm across,15 cm long,nothing looked very promising.I have not had a recurrence since.
Chemo saved my life!

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Thank u for this comment I’m going to send this post if u don’t mind to my 41 year old daughter for inspiration which her as well as myself and wife need desperately. We are just starting this journey. She was diagnosed few days ago and biopsy showed ILC 3 cm think lymph nodes ok but it has reached tissue . She lives in Washington state and we have heard good things about Fred Hutch cancer hospital and have a very good ranking like top ten. Now just trying to get the additional test required to move forward. Glad for you and thx for the post.

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@estebanf

What is oncotype score.. just beginning our unfortunate journey.. daughter , 41 dionosed with IVLC 3 cm. Time for more texting.. anyone one with similar?
Advice ? Good luck to you..

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@estenbaf do you want to post a new discussion? Are you saying your daughter has invasive lobular cancer, 3cm?

Testing will tell her if her tumor is estrogen positive, progesterone positive and HER2 negative. In that case (ER+ and HER2-) a genomic test called the Oncotype will be done. The report will tell your daughter whether chemo is of benefit and also what the risk of recurrence might be with or without anti-hormone medications.

IF ER- or HER2+ the Oncotype won't be done.

According to the info below most lobular cancers are hormone positive and respond well to treatment. Lobular can be hard to find because it does not form clumps or masses.

https://www.healthline.com/health/breast-cancer/lobular-breast-cancer-prognosis-survival#prognosis

Let us know when you have more information. We cannot give medical advice but we can share our own experiences.

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What is oncotype score.. just beginning our unfortunate journey.. daughter , 41 dionosed with IVLC 3 cm. Time for more texting.. anyone one with similar?
Advice ? Good luck to you..

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@semurrey

Hi! Fortunately my oncotype was 14 so chemo not recommended. I started full breast radiation (very small breasts) on 12/27 at Dana Farber- four down - 15 to go is the plan. I did get a few opinions on radiation and decided proton beam would not be best approach. Hope this helps.

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Why radiation?

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@polianad22

Did you receive the Oncotype?

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Hi! Fortunately my oncotype was 14 so chemo not recommended. I started full breast radiation (very small breasts) on 12/27 at Dana Farber- four down - 15 to go is the plan. I did get a few opinions on radiation and decided proton beam would not be best approach. Hope this helps.

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@semurrey

Very helpful information! I/ 57 yrs and had lumpectomy surgery 11/30 for ILC and just received first labs. Negative in node removed - so relieved and 1.8 cm so thought is Stage 1, Grade 2. I'm waiting on oncotype and was referred to radiation oncology consult in 2 weeks but expect daily for 4-6 weeks. I understand radiation is much for targeted now and it sounds like the newest treatments -the proton beam (only at MGH as close to Boston) is not typically used for breast radiation. (reserved for pediatric, brain, lung). Is this accurate? It seems the radiation is so critical but is there much difference in the treatment from one hospital to another? The nurse said "pretty standard"?? I'm planning on meeting an oncologist also but am told the oncologist works more with anti hormone pills and/or chemo. Any help/advice appreciated. Thanks!!

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Did you receive the Oncotype?

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@semurrey

Very helpful information! I/ 57 yrs and had lumpectomy surgery 11/30 for ILC and just received first labs. Negative in node removed - so relieved and 1.8 cm so thought is Stage 1, Grade 2. I'm waiting on oncotype and was referred to radiation oncology consult in 2 weeks but expect daily for 4-6 weeks. I understand radiation is much for targeted now and it sounds like the newest treatments -the proton beam (only at MGH as close to Boston) is not typically used for breast radiation. (reserved for pediatric, brain, lung). Is this accurate? It seems the radiation is so critical but is there much difference in the treatment from one hospital to another? The nurse said "pretty standard"?? I'm planning on meeting an oncologist also but am told the oncologist works more with anti hormone pills and/or chemo. Any help/advice appreciated. Thanks!!

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Proton therapy can precisely target and deliver high radiation doses to a tumor to kill cancerous cells. Proton therapy may be especially beneficial for some people with breast cancer by minimizing damage to nearby tissue and critical organs such as the heart and lungs.

Sue, you might be interested in this related discussion where you can ask members who have had proton beam therapy for breast cancer about their experiences:
- My experience with proton beam therapy & breast cancer https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/breast-cancer-diagnosis-in-february-2016/

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