Invasive lobular cancer and treatment choices

Posted by denisesjourney123 @denisesjourney123, Feb 9 6:59pm

I was diagnosed with ILC in dec2023. I just had a lumpectomy and they removed 3 small tumors grade 1 and 3 lymph nodes. My lymph nodes were negative but my margins were positive. I’m scheduled for a mastectomy and estrogen blocker in the future.I’m waiting to hear if I need chemo. I am considering reconstructive surgery later. How many of you with ILC would get the mastectomy ?My right breast is fine so far. How many of you would take the estrogen blocker knowing the side effects? Thanks

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Thank you. Were you on the blockers when you had your reoccurrences? How did you know you had cancer after a mastectomy? Invasive lobular is a sneaky cancer. It seems to like to reoccur.

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@lemony

I had invasive lobular cancer in my right breast, tumor was 3.1 cm with additional nodules around it. Had 1 positive lymph node and one with ITC cells. Left breast invasive ductile cancer with 4 mm tumor. Both cancers were estrogen+, progesterone+ and Her2 -, I had double mastectomy with 7 weeks radiation including boosted radiation for positive margins in right breast. I did not have chemo due to low oncotype scores and no advantage.
I took the hormone blocker arimedix for 18 mos but lost 14% bone mass in my lower spine and hips within that time, memory loss, arthritis in hands, severe insomnia, mood disturbances, depression, etc. so quit the medication. I still see my onccologist but also see an md who is a functional medicine, naturopath as well. I take dozens of natural AI's and do intermittent fast along with rigourous exercise at least for days a week. I had my estrogen levels checked a few days ago and they were 14pg/ml. I contacted my oncologist office and they as I thought the labs were positive but they told me my levels should be 1-3pg/ml. I am worried now. Has anyone else taken the path I have successfully? Anyone had there estradiol checked while on hormone blockers? Any advise would be appreciated...

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I was diagnosed with estrogen positive invasive lobular cancer in 1998 and was also given the same choice by oncologist and surgeon. I was undecided so I got a second opinion from another reputable surgeon, and she actually found a very tiny lump farther away from the original lump, (neither of these lumps showed up on my mammogram). I decided on a mastectomy with confidence, followed by tamoxifen. I did have a tiny local reoccurrence in my armpit in 2000. They removed it and radiated my left chest wall. Then I took Arimidex. Seventeen years later, a small lump showed up in my right breast and I had a mastectomy, no chemo or radiation. Since then, I have had a few local reoccurrences that have been removed followed by a chemo pill which works to remove them completely. I have only one lung, so they will not radiate on my right side. I don't know if any of this helps. Best wishes on your decision.

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Good luck! ILC and IDC. I got the second one wrong. Here is another truth from my experience; I had remarkably little pain. And I hope all goes well for you . Peace and joy to you!

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@katcara

Hello. It’s all so worrisome, isn’t it? I had one ILC and one ITC in my left breast. I chose a double mastectomy straight out even though my right breast was cancer free. I’m flat. And glad of it. In fact, it makes me feel sort of safe. I wear bras especially fitted by a surgical supply store when I want to feel like I look better. The choices are hard and you have to do what feels right to you. I have no regrets about the double mastectomy I chose. Good luck!

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Following in your footsteps. Ductal & ILC going on Wednesday for DMX.

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After my diagnosis, both my grown daughters called their primary doctor and were put into a high risk breast cancer clinic (one lives near me and the other is in Seattle). Both those clinics have a protocol of alternating mammograms and MRI’s every 6 months.

I would not want to deal with another tumor, should you get one, but would gladly do their protocol as an early detector.

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@mjwhearts22

I was 71 when I had a double mastectomy for ILC (it took 6 months to get clear enough margins because it didn’t show on the mammograms and ultrasounds I’d had for decades). As a large breasted woman, I was immediately relieved not to have breasts. While it’s not for everyone, I am fine being flat (stay away from princess seams) though it really rankles me that I had to make the decisions at all. Proper imaging (MRIs) would have found it years before it metastasized into my lymph nodes. Now, I will have it for the rest of my life.

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Thinking of you and so agree with you regarding imaging. My ILC with MRI was shown to be much larger and helped with surgery. I still opted for lumpectomy (58yrs old). After surgery margins weren't great so I did boost radiation followed by Letrozole which has now pushed me into osteoporosis so I'm going to start Fosamax. My oncologist at Dana Farber fought me on MRI surveillance (I asked for after annual mammo - 6 months alternating) - I told her I'd rather deal with reoccurrence when tumor burden is low. They simply cite academic articles reporting mortality not much different with early detection. What? How'bout what is better for the patient. All we have is early detection!

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Yes, it blocked the estrogen that feeds on ILC shrinking the tumors enough to get the needed margins. The MRI showed my breast was completely full of tumors. I did a double mastectomy then 4 months of chemo followed by 6 weeks of radiation. They removed 19 lymph nodes 15 of which were cancerous so I am taking Exemestane and Verzenio trying to stave off further metastasis for the next 4 years. Will take the Verzenio for 2 years and the Exemestane for the rest of my life.

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@mjwhearts22

Hang in there. I took Exemestane for 6 months in order to get clear enough margins. It’s a tough decision either way.

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Boy I was never offered that. To late now I lost my breast. That’s frustrating. Did it work?

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@denisesjourney123

I asked my surgeon what she would do in my situation with unclear margins. She said she would get the mastectomy. That was my next move. If my margins were clear I would have kept to the lumpectomy and radiation. Invasive lobular is very sneaky. They found my 3rd tumor by luck with ultrasound. The mammogram or MRI never caught it. It’s been a week since the mastectomy. I have one drain out and one to go. I’m healing but is a much harder surgery emotionally and physically than the lumpectomy was for me. I hope this helps.

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Hang in there. I took Exemestane for 6 months in order to get clear enough margins. It’s a tough decision either way.

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@dlst

My experience with ILC is that I had a lumpectomy, but the margins were not clear , so I need a second surgery. However, the surgeon is giving me a choice between a second lumpectomy plus radiation therapy OR a mastectomy. The long-term survival rates are identical (no statistical significance between them.) The surgeon advises a mastectomy. The oncologist advises the lumpectomy plus radiation. For those who had a mastectomy, even though you might have had a lumpectomy plus radiation, how are you feeling about it now? Do you regret it or are you glad you did it? Thanks for any advice! (I will still need Anastrozole with either surgery, but no chemo with either, due to the small size of the tumor - 2 mm).

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Hello. It’s all so worrisome, isn’t it? I had one ILC and one ITC in my left breast. I chose a double mastectomy straight out even though my right breast was cancer free. I’m flat. And glad of it. In fact, it makes me feel sort of safe. I wear bras especially fitted by a surgical supply store when I want to feel like I look better. The choices are hard and you have to do what feels right to you. I have no regrets about the double mastectomy I chose. Good luck!

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