Important information about statins that I’m going to ask my doc about

Posted by Barb @amberpep, Aug 10, 2020

Just a bit of information I discovered last week. One of the side effects of taking "simvistatin" is temporary memory loss. It is the only statin that has this effect. I am going to talk to my .doctor about stopping it, with his guidance of course. I have had some short lapses in memory .... forgetting part of my phone number, etc.

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Is anyone in this group trying Nexzilet? I could not tolerate statins and my primary has put me on this non-statin drug. Cholesterol was borderline but calcium score was 199 and father w stents and paternal grandmother had bypass.

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@billjudis

Thanks! I took my first a few days ago and it made me pretty sick...just trying to healing from lymphocytic colitis and I am terrified to irritate my slowly healing digestive system! Based on your experience, I will try it again...

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There are also non stain options available it you decide it's not for you. Keep asking your questions to your doctor. You are entitled to all the information out there. And there is plenty. We need a level of care from our doctors. And if you have more than one issues, then the doctors need to be on the same page.

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@billjudis

Thanks! I took my first a few days ago and it made me pretty sick...just trying to healing from lymphocytic colitis and I am terrified to irritate my slowly healing digestive system! Based on your experience, I will try it again...

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I was told the side effects are dosage dependant. So the lower the dose, the less side effects. Also if it really bothers you, you can ask for a change to a different stain, or if you can take it less often. Your doctor will be able to work with you. Mine did.

I was against statin for years! In fact terrified of them! But at 64 and a history of high chokesterol, I decided to give it a go too. My doctor said I could stop them if the statin wasn't for me, and the side effects would be reversable. When I see my cardiologist, I am going to ask for a coronary calcium scan to see if, and how much blockages I have. Simple test. Noninvasive. Lots of information from that one scan.

Keep us posted.

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@adr

Hi, I am 64 and with high cholesterol too. I have been a vegetarian for many years. I recently added salmon to my diet. My LDL was over 200. Total 266. I took my 1st statin yesterday. It was 5mgs. It did make me feel a little sick for a short while. But quickly passed. Was told it was hereditary too! Good luck with the other issues. I'm with you I take as little meds as possible.

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Thanks! I took my first a few days ago and it made me pretty sick...just trying to healing from lymphocytic colitis and I am terrified to irritate my slowly healing digestive system! Based on your experience, I will try it again...

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@billjudis

Hello. I am a 68 year old female with very high cholesterol (almost 300) and have just been prescribed Crestor. My cardiologist said at this point, my high cholesterol is due to genetics and cannot be lowered through diet, just medication. I took my first dose yesterday. I am worried because I had also just been diagnosed with lymphocytic colitis (had it for 4-5 months now...) and now am concerned about more digestive upset (I am just now feeling better-maybe 3 weeks?) and of course all of the other potential side effects from taking Crestor. I have lost weight through all of my digestive issues (11 months) and I feel I am on the right track with my health, digestive issues, hopefully. I really don't want to add another medication/issue to the mix...any ideas? Thanks! Judi

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Hi, I am 64 and with high cholesterol too. I have been a vegetarian for many years. I recently added salmon to my diet. My LDL was over 200. Total 266. I took my 1st statin yesterday. It was 5mgs. It did make me feel a little sick for a short while. But quickly passed. Was told it was hereditary too! Good luck with the other issues. I'm with you I take as little meds as possible.

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@equestrian2020

Cholesterol has many parts to it.. Hdl, ldl, and triglycerides. These can be broken down as well.
Risk factors for poor outcomes, according to medical data, are coupled with high blood pressure, diabetes and other health issues. stress on arteries, as in high blood pressure, are damaged and plugged with many things, platelets, and plaque.. like mending a hose with a crack. The patch causes buildup inside of your arteries. Some can break off, causing a problem somewhere else in your body. Some can block the flow of blood.
Medications can lower your cholesterol but as well can cause side effects. Muscle pain and damage being common.
Sometimes, cholesterol can be brought to good values by changing your diet, and increasing physical activity, approved first by your physician.
Reducing triglycerides and the bad cholesterol can be done by many people by changing your diet. Hdl, the good cholesterol, is your friend.
Cholesterol in itself is not bad. It helps to make your hormones, and the membrane on the cells that make up your body. It does many other things, the list is long.
Doctors have seen patients bring down the bad cholesterol and raise the good by changing what they eat, and getting a little more physically active. I’m not saying to become a body builder. I’m saying get off the couch and move. Walk, get on an indoor or outdoor bike, clean the house.
If you read about eating a mostly plant based diet, this will bring down your numbers. It means eating fresh veggies, fruits and grains, as tolerated, and having a small amount of healthy lean protein compared to vegetables on your plate. Your plate should be 75% veggies and 25% lean protein. Just an example..Fruits have sugar but there are low glycemic ones..The results are startling to many. It takes a little time to see the results so be patient. Some choose to be vegetarian. I see you shaking your head. This includes excluding meat and poultry, but can include eggs, aged cheese and yogurt, and fish. Some decide to go full vegan which means consuming all plant based foods, but large amounts of it to get the body what it needs. Humans sometimes can’t extract all the body needs like animals do from plants, and lack essentials like vitamin b12, which must be taken. It is available in many non vegetarian items like meat and eggs, and added to processed foods. As we age, our ability to extract nutrients from foods has a decline. So following with a physician knowledgeable in this area is indeed helpful. A nutritionist as well is a great asset.
If you have high cholesterol, then it’s a good idea to discuss a plan with your doc. It can mean saying farewell to that 16oz steak at Peter Lugers. ( New Yorkers you get that!) and bye bye bacon, unhealthy processed foods full of things that aren’t really good for you. And no, eating a Big Mac with what they call cheese and bacon is not remedied by a bowl of Cheerios..But, one thing at a time. Start with a workup at your physician or cardiologist office. Talk with them. They will tell you that diet and activity is the most influential part of your health.
I’ve seen people take better care of their cars than their own body. Your body is the finest machine ever built.
Instead of a “ diet”, try to learn how to eat well forever. You will get to your bodies good weight without trying. Being at a good weight can bring about good health..Just by eating what your body needs. It can heal itself if given the right fuel. Really.
Small steps. Instead of canned fruits and veggies, go to the produce section. Buy fresh, and pesticide free if you can. Local and seasonal. Pasture raised meat, lean. No, not bacon. Fresh wild fish high in omega 3. Salmon, sardines, herring and more. Read up. Olive oil. Grass fed dairy.
You will feel better. Your future body will thank you. Please try.
Let food be thy medicine, and medicine be thy food... Hippocrates.

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Hello. I am a 68 year old female with very high cholesterol (almost 300) and have just been prescribed Crestor. My cardiologist said at this point, my high cholesterol is due to genetics and cannot be lowered through diet, just medication. I took my first dose yesterday. I am worried because I had also just been diagnosed with lymphocytic colitis (had it for 4-5 months now...) and now am concerned about more digestive upset (I am just now feeling better-maybe 3 weeks?) and of course all of the other potential side effects from taking Crestor. I have lost weight through all of my digestive issues (11 months) and I feel I am on the right track with my health, digestive issues, hopefully. I really don't want to add another medication/issue to the mix...any ideas? Thanks! Judi

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@raye

Hugs of sympathy to Frenchie333 for what you have gone through with MCAS. Found out about it just now in my favorite place: Google.
You probably looked there also, to learn what can trigger it.

Regarding hair color; I learned blonds really do have more fun when I chose to change from rodent brown: age 19-24. It became sort of platinum blond, until the quality was stripped out. Back to my natural blah. Sixty years later most of that color has faded to the direction of gray. Now it really is effortlessly platinum blond.

Regarding chemicals, with WuFlu, one can get it through the eyes. Reading that led me to stop eye makeup for fear I might rub my eyes. So much for past glamor. I’m too practical, and more than that frightened of catching covid. Today I had Moderna #5, the third booster which is considered bivalent against omicron. A week ago senior dose quadrivalent flu shot. The timing of those came from my pcp. Preparing like a Girl Scout. No substitute for preparedness.

Now to make my favorite dinner. A big green salad tossed with blueberries salmon, etc; and pulverized organic tangerine peel, olive oil crushed with Meyer lemons, aged balsamic dressing. Wishing everyone well.

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Thank you, Susanodencrantz!
Even virtual hugs feel GOOD!

Gail

Gail Reynolds Natzler

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Hugs of sympathy to Frenchie333 for what you have gone through with MCAS. Found out about it just now in my favorite place: Google.
You probably looked there also, to learn what can trigger it.

Regarding hair color; I learned blonds really do have more fun when I chose to change from rodent brown: age 19-24. It became sort of platinum blond, until the quality was stripped out. Back to my natural blah. Sixty years later most of that color has faded to the direction of gray. Now it really is effortlessly platinum blond.

Regarding chemicals, with WuFlu, one can get it through the eyes. Reading that led me to stop eye makeup for fear I might rub my eyes. So much for past glamor. I’m too practical, and more than that frightened of catching covid. Today I had Moderna #5, the third booster which is considered bivalent against omicron. A week ago senior dose quadrivalent flu shot. The timing of those came from my pcp. Preparing like a Girl Scout. No substitute for preparedness.

Now to make my favorite dinner. A big green salad tossed with blueberries salmon, etc; and pulverized organic tangerine peel, olive oil crushed with Meyer lemons, aged balsamic dressing. Wishing everyone well.

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@raye

Thanks, Frenchie 333, for your kind affirmative responses. Congratulations for loosing 70 pounds and keeping it off. That’s so rare that the National Weight Loss Registry would like to hear how you kept it off.

Who knows, we could be related because endometriosis is a genetic disease. Medical experimentation for mine caused my weight to zoom from 120 to 170 in five months. At age 20 I had been an athlete representing America in several European countries. BMI 19.

A few years later a gynecologist prescribed triple dosage birth control pills—yes, 60 per month, non-stop for five months. That was in 1966 when each pill was 10x the strength it is now. Back then women were getting strokes from the 20 pill per month regimen. That’s when Dr. Charles Langmade said his absurd dose would cause my endometrial ovarian cyst to “slough off.” It did not work. Lesson: Question your doc! Look up the weird thing he is prescribing on ProPublica’s Dollars For Docs.
See if there may be a conflict of interest caused by a pharmaceutical company paying him to experiment on patients. Goodness that sounds frightening! It happens, though now docs must ask permission before testing on their patients. And the patients must sign a permission form. After a Doc recently handed me a 14 page permission form to sign, I walked out, never to return.

Now back to my fat story.
Instead I lost my cute figure and became a frump. At medically directed weight loss programs I met other obese women who had been through similar weight-inducing regimen for endometriosis. Same result.

Knowing how hard I had worked, I invested in an education and enrolled in an international annual Obesity Research conference as the only fat patient in the midst of a couple thousand slender physicians who made their living “off the fat of the earth.”
My UCLA clinical nutrition doc co-chaired the event. His PowerPoint was introduced by a photo of a work of art: my collage showing a neolithic Venus perched on a bathroom scales.

At the CME conference I learned that researchers were still discovering the many causes of obesity. Google Adeno-36, for example. Dr. George Bray announced that every weight-loss disaster to date which had first showed so much promise became a weight-loss disaster. He also said that fewer than 1% could keep the weight off. So Congratulations to Frenchie again!

According to Mayo Clinic’s Dr. Andre Acosta, my body is a “slow burn” phenotype. Yes? I really do have a slow metabolism. Skipping past the many things I could say, I’ll finish this before it becomes a Book and say, to confirm your experience, that because I avoid inflammatory refined carbs my bone-on-bone knees do not hurt either. And selecting foods high in anthocyanin helps as well.

Dear reader, if you have read all of this, all the way down to here, may I be the first to congratulate you. Thank you!
Wishing you courage on your own journeys!

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You've been on quite a journey! Some legs of your trek have been horrifying! There are some Dr. Frankenstein's out there... Sheesh! When it comes to hormones everyone knows one shouldn't play games, experiment. After all, we're well into this century now. I recall a verrrrry old lady being wheeled on a gurney into my GYN's office. She was moaning in pain. This was before HIPPA. Out of genuine concern/compassion, I asked the receptionist what was going on. After all, few women in their 80s need a GYN!!!!! Turns out the frail lady had been experimenting with estrogen for "youth." O. M. G. !!!!! In her 80s and having menstrual cramps through the roof, hemorrhaging. Felt terrible for her and her foolishness.

Yes, I want to be at my best in terms of health; but, I've embraced my senior years. Stopped dying my hair at the beginning of the Wu Flu because two dye sessions in a row, I had odd bumps on my scalp. Had my Dermatologist freeze them off after that first reaction. When it happened again, well, there was no denying that dying is bad for the scalp--just as bleaching is harmful to the hair shaft. Vanity is NOT worth the price!

There's much we don't know about "metabolic syndrome." And I'd never heard of Adeno-36! My sister is morbidly obese and it breaks my heart because I love her. I genuinely don't judge. I just want what is best for her, for everybody!

For me, it's all about health, energy, flexibility, vibrant longevity.

That book, "The Weigh Down," changed my "relationship" with food. More accurately, it got me in touch with my body, recognizing true hunger, realizing when I was satisfied, knowing I could have more later when I was truly stomach hungry again. Yep, lost it and kept it off.

For the sake of 100% transparency, I lost the last 10 pounds against my will. Had a bad reaction after the Pfizer double jab. However, as of today, I've been able to regain 3.5 pounds. Up to 118.5 with a goal of 123 - 127. Now that I've got my MCAS-GI under control, I can keep my OTC antihistamines in me long enough to do their jobs and keep my food in me! Eighteen months of chronic diarrhea are finally over! The Pfizer connection to "food hypersensitivity" was substantiated by a collection of worldwide studies that documented a spike in "food hypersensitivity" with Pfizer having the highest percentage of cases. Lucky me. My strictly cutaneous mastocytosis escalated. But the first 60 pounds of weight loss? All due to Gwen Shamblin's book.

Had no idea that a mere 1% enjoyed long-term success!

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@frenchie333

Hey, raye! I agree with your WOW = Words of Wisdom!

I've never been diabetic but weighed 70 pounds more than I do today. Lost the weight with zero dieting, calorie counting, meetings, weighing foods. Going on 70 years old and I've kept the weight off for many years.

Gained the weight from triple female troubles: PCOS, endometriosis and fibroid tumors. Then I worked in manufacturing, sustained many acute and cumulative injuries that forced me to be sedentary. All this before we knew what we know now.

So, how did I lose all that weight forever with no dieting? I read a book. Not certain if it's still in print but worth seeking on Alibris.com, eBay.com, Amazon.com, et cetera.

Title: The Weigh Down
Author: Gwen Shamblin

Gwen eventually got married so sometimes you'll see her name as Gwen Shamblin-??? (her husband's last name/her new married name after the hyphen).

That book changed my relationship with food. Great collection of success stories by people who were inspired by Gwen's approach.

Goodness is meant to be shared so I gave my book away years ago. If I still had it, I'd ship it to you!

You're very wise to avoid all refined carbs for a variety of reasons. Despite my many injuries and my age, I suffer no pain/inflammation. How? I consume almost zero refined carbs. Not bragging, I'm on zero Rx meds. I do take two OTC histamine blockers but am now seeking natural antihistamines.

My motto? God's Pharmacy First! Yes, Mother Nature Provides.

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Thanks, Frenchie 333, for your kind affirmative responses. Congratulations for loosing 70 pounds and keeping it off. That’s so rare that the National Weight Loss Registry would like to hear how you kept it off.

Who knows, we could be related because endometriosis is a genetic disease. Medical experimentation for mine caused my weight to zoom from 120 to 170 in five months. At age 20 I had been an athlete representing America in several European countries. BMI 19.

A few years later a gynecologist prescribed triple dosage birth control pills—yes, 60 per month, non-stop for five months. That was in 1966 when each pill was 10x the strength it is now. Back then women were getting strokes from the 20 pill per month regimen. That’s when Dr. Charles Langmade said his absurd dose would cause my endometrial ovarian cyst to “slough off.” It did not work. Lesson: Question your doc! Look up the weird thing he is prescribing on ProPublica’s Dollars For Docs.
See if there may be a conflict of interest caused by a pharmaceutical company paying him to experiment on patients. Goodness that sounds frightening! It happens, though now docs must ask permission before testing on their patients. And the patients must sign a permission form. After a Doc recently handed me a 14 page permission form to sign, I walked out, never to return.

Now back to my fat story.
Instead I lost my cute figure and became a frump. At medically directed weight loss programs I met other obese women who had been through similar weight-inducing regimen for endometriosis. Same result.

Knowing how hard I had worked, I invested in an education and enrolled in an international annual Obesity Research conference as the only fat patient in the midst of a couple thousand slender physicians who made their living “off the fat of the earth.”
My UCLA clinical nutrition doc co-chaired the event. His PowerPoint was introduced by a photo of a work of art: my collage showing a neolithic Venus perched on a bathroom scales.

At the CME conference I learned that researchers were still discovering the many causes of obesity. Google Adeno-36, for example. Dr. George Bray announced that every weight-loss disaster to date which had first showed so much promise became a weight-loss disaster. He also said that fewer than 1% could keep the weight off. So Congratulations to Frenchie again!

According to Mayo Clinic’s Dr. Andre Acosta, my body is a “slow burn” phenotype. Yes? I really do have a slow metabolism. Skipping past the many things I could say, I’ll finish this before it becomes a Book and say, to confirm your experience, that because I avoid inflammatory refined carbs my bone-on-bone knees do not hurt either. And selecting foods high in anthocyanin helps as well.

Dear reader, if you have read all of this, all the way down to here, may I be the first to congratulate you. Thank you!
Wishing you courage on your own journeys!

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