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Has anyone had a TKR using the Kinematic method?

Posted by lindielulu @lindielulu, Jul 2 7:11am

I have been researching this method for knee replacement and am looking for anyone who has done this. It doesn't make your leg completely straight if it wasn't originally straight before you had knee problems. I think they said as your knee was when you were 20 years old. I have mild scoliosis and my surgical to be knee has always been a little longer and a little bowed than the other knee. I am afraid if the knee is completely straight it will make the problem worse. Any comments on success or not, or problems with this approach?

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Sue, Volunteer Mentor | @sueinmn | Jul 2 8:15am

@lindielulu Have you seen this description of the Kinesia Alignment method:
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7407864/
It appears to state that deficiencies CAN be corrected IF the surgeon is fully prepared to do so. Have you discussed his experience and recommendation with him?

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lindielulu | @lindielulu | Jul 2 11:31am
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@lindielulu Have you seen this description of the Kinesia Alignment method:
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7407864/
It appears to state that deficiencies CAN be corrected IF the surgeon is fully prepared to do so. Have you discussed his experience and recommendation with him?

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I have only read his biography and am expecting a call from the nurse. I have my list of questions. I didn't want to make an appointment because this would be the 3rd doctor I have seen and it's a little embarrassing. Thank you so much for the article, I read it and it's a little technical but seems to say the same things I have read. I bookmarked it for further research. The first doctor does conventional TKR, 2nd one minimally invasive, and I believe the 3rd is the one I need to see. I already have the hip on that side higher than the other and straightening the knee seems like it would make it worse. I was hoping to find someone that had this done but it seems like they're pretty rare. It sounds good to me, providing he does have all the equipment for a good outcome, which I believe he does. I have been putting the off for a couple of years and it seems like it has suddenly gone from 0-60 in a couple of weeks. Well, not really zero but acceleration of pain and symptoms have been more sudden. I am terrified of so many things involving the surgery.

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Sue, Volunteer Mentor | @sueinmn | Jul 2 1:19pm
In reply to @lindielulu "I have only read his biography and am expecting a call from the nurse. I have..." + (show)
@lindielulu

I have only read his biography and am expecting a call from the nurse. I have my list of questions. I didn't want to make an appointment because this would be the 3rd doctor I have seen and it's a little embarrassing. Thank you so much for the article, I read it and it's a little technical but seems to say the same things I have read. I bookmarked it for further research. The first doctor does conventional TKR, 2nd one minimally invasive, and I believe the 3rd is the one I need to see. I already have the hip on that side higher than the other and straightening the knee seems like it would make it worse. I was hoping to find someone that had this done but it seems like they're pretty rare. It sounds good to me, providing he does have all the equipment for a good outcome, which I believe he does. I have been putting the off for a couple of years and it seems like it has suddenly gone from 0-60 in a couple of weeks. Well, not really zero but acceleration of pain and symptoms have been more sudden. I am terrified of so many things involving the surgery.

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In your situation it sounds like getting multiple opinions is very wise. Like you, I have known for a while that my knee will need replacement, but until pain or loss of function push me, it's a waiting game. I have already had my hips done almost 20 years ago and a variety of other ortho surgery but the knees seem like they are tougher.

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lindielulu | @lindielulu | Jul 3 9:24am
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@sueinmn

In your situation it sounds like getting multiple opinions is very wise. Like you, I have known for a while that my knee will need replacement, but until pain or loss of function push me, it's a waiting game. I have already had my hips done almost 20 years ago and a variety of other ortho surgery but the knees seem like they are tougher.

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Yes, everything I have seen says that knees are tougher (more painful) than hips although I would think hips are no picnic either. I have tried exercises on my glutes as they say strengthening the glutes can fix knee pain. It does temporarily and immediately but it doesn't last long. I am at the point where I have trouble just walking down my driveway to get my mail, so my time is here for surgery. I am really leaning toward the kinematically aligned TKR. Here's what AI has to say about it.

"Kinematically aligned total knee replacement is a surgical technique that aims to restore a patient's natural knee alignment and biomechanics by using pre-arthritic kinematic axes. This method focuses on preserving ligaments and achieving a balanced joint without altering the patient's normal anatomy significantly"

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Sue, Volunteer Mentor | @sueinmn | Jul 3 10:26pm
In reply to @lindielulu "Yes, everything I have seen says that knees are tougher (more painful) than hips although I..." + (show)
@lindielulu

Yes, everything I have seen says that knees are tougher (more painful) than hips although I would think hips are no picnic either. I have tried exercises on my glutes as they say strengthening the glutes can fix knee pain. It does temporarily and immediately but it doesn't last long. I am at the point where I have trouble just walking down my driveway to get my mail, so my time is here for surgery. I am really leaning toward the kinematically aligned TKR. Here's what AI has to say about it.

"Kinematically aligned total knee replacement is a surgical technique that aims to restore a patient's natural knee alignment and biomechanics by using pre-arthritic kinematic axes. This method focuses on preserving ligaments and achieving a balanced joint without altering the patient's normal anatomy significantly"

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If you want to do real research on this topic, try scholar.google.com and use the keywords Kineasia alignment or similar. You will be able to see results from actual research and review by qualified people.

Please do NOT rely on AI summaries because you don't know what source material is being quoted or how it was selected and whether it was verified in any way credible reviewers.

Until AI is more transparent about the sources and algorithms it uses to produce summaries, it really isn't a tool for making informed decisions.

For example, I recently asked AI to identify 3 plants (positively known to me) in my yard - 2 answers were completely wrong, the 3rd could have been lack of detail in my shot. One of the 2 clearly only grows thousands of miles away.

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ddsack | @ddsack | Jul 4 9:04am
In reply to @sueinmn "If you want to do real research on this topic, try scholar.google.com and use the keywords..." + (show)
@sueinmn

If you want to do real research on this topic, try scholar.google.com and use the keywords Kineasia alignment or similar. You will be able to see results from actual research and review by qualified people.

Please do NOT rely on AI summaries because you don't know what source material is being quoted or how it was selected and whether it was verified in any way credible reviewers.

Until AI is more transparent about the sources and algorithms it uses to produce summaries, it really isn't a tool for making informed decisions.

For example, I recently asked AI to identify 3 plants (positively known to me) in my yard - 2 answers were completely wrong, the 3rd could have been lack of detail in my shot. One of the 2 clearly only grows thousands of miles away.

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I so agree with Sue to avoid AI results when searching! It's just grabbing bits and pieces from everywhere with little regard for prioritizing for accuracy. You may luck out, or you may be given wrong information. One recent search for me was for a sports personality, and all AI hits were for a different person with a similar name, not the person I wanted, not the sport.

For medical knowledge, go on to the search list of websites of large reputable medical institutions you'll pull up in a google search, and use their own search boxes for what you need.

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lindielulu | @lindielulu | Jul 4 11:01am
In reply to @sueinmn "If you want to do real research on this topic, try scholar.google.com and use the keywords..." + (show)
@sueinmn

If you want to do real research on this topic, try scholar.google.com and use the keywords Kineasia alignment or similar. You will be able to see results from actual research and review by qualified people.

Please do NOT rely on AI summaries because you don't know what source material is being quoted or how it was selected and whether it was verified in any way credible reviewers.

Until AI is more transparent about the sources and algorithms it uses to produce summaries, it really isn't a tool for making informed decisions.

For example, I recently asked AI to identify 3 plants (positively known to me) in my yard - 2 answers were completely wrong, the 3rd could have been lack of detail in my shot. One of the 2 clearly only grows thousands of miles away.

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Oh no, I definitely do not rely on AI for anything, just wanted to see what "it" would say. But it does agree with the research I have already done. Just thought I would put a simplified explanation. Thanks for the research suggestion, I'll see what they have to say but really, I have done a lot of research on this and was just looking to see if anyone here has used this method.

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lindielulu | @lindielulu | Jul 4 11:02am

Here is a much better explanation but it does agree with AI. Not defending AI....I would never do something so serious as TKR because AI said it was a good thing, https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0972978X1830343X

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