Going for Tulsa Pro

Posted by paulcalif @paulcalif, Dec 29, 2024

I've posted here a few times over the last year and have read most of the posts from others. I was diagnosed in January 2024 through an ultrasound biopsy (it should have been MRI guided), followed by a PSA test CT scan, MRI, and Decipher test. My cancer is not aggressive, but there are three growths in my prostate. My doctors recommended a full ablation, and I’ve decided to go with the Tulsa Procedure at UCLA with Dr. Steven Raman.

I’ve waited until now because I believe Medicare will begin covering the procedure on the 1st. of 2025. Earlier this year, I switched from a Medicare HMO plan (Blue Shield) to Original Medicare with a supplemental plan, where Medicare covers 80% and the supplemental plan pays the remaining 20%. It’s been incredibly difficult to determine whether Medicare will actually cover the procedure, as I’ve received conflicting information. However, I think they will.

I considered going back to an HMO with United Health Plans, which includes UCLA physicians as in-network, but no one could guarantee that they’d cover the procedure either.

Anyway, I thought I’d document this journey. It begins on January 5th, when I’ll check into an Airbnb hotel near the procedure location. This is two days before the procedure. I’ll have to fast those 2 days and completely empty my stomach (I’ll spare you the details). In the best-case scenario, I’ll wake up with a catheter and a “burned out” prostate. I’ll need to wear the catheter for at least two weeks. Hopefully, they'll get it all 🙂

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The important thing is to make sure you're having this procedure done at a center of excellence by someone who has done it with success (however we define that) many times. Best of luck. I had TULSA PRO in October of 2024 at Mayo Clinic in Rochester, MN with Dr. Woodrum. So far, so good. My next visit and MRI are April 2027.

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@pdcar4756 thanks. The Tulsa folks recommended two area providers. University of Chicago and St. Louis University/SSM. Both have good reviews.

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The important thing is to make sure you're having this procedure done at a center of excellence by someone who has done it with success (however we define that) many times. Best of luck. I had TULSA PRO in October of 2024 at Mayo Clinic in Rochester, MN with Dr. Woodrum. So far, so good. My next visit and MRI are April 2027.

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Hi all,

I’ve been following this thread and I want to thank all of the participants. The information you’ve shared puts me at ease that I’ve made the right decision to go with the TULSA Pro. I was diagnosed with prostate cancer in Nov 2025. I had planned to undergo radiation for the treatment of my cancer. For some strange reason (Divine intervention) I searched for alternatives to radiation and TULSA came up. My urologist had provided me with the options of a prostatectomy or radiation. No mention of TULSA.

I’m 69 years old and in pretty good health other than prostate cancer. My cancer is pretty far along with 17 out of 20 cores having cancer. My PSA was 9.6 which is what triggered my primary care physician to send me to a urologist. My Gleason score is Group 3, (4+3=7). My prostate capsule is enclosed with no calcification so I’m a candidate for TULSA Pro. My procedure will be scheduled in about six weeks. Based on the comments you’ve provided I’m actually looking forward to the procedure with high expectations of getting back to normal with no cancer.

Wish me well.

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@tdoriausername
I wouldn’t rule out Tulsa at UCLA if you are in AZ. Drive over, spend 1 night, have procedure, drive home. You can have catheter removed locally. The procedure for me was painless and I took my normal 2 mile walk the next day. My guess is they will also take your Medicare plus supplement plan. I had zero cost at Mayo Rochester, using Medicare and supplement.

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@jcf58 Thank you for the encouragement. I understand that they have a facility in Duarte, California that also does the procedure. I might opted to have it done there. It's closer to where my sister lives.

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@tdoriausername I did Hemi gland Tulsa Pro at Mayo in Jacksonville FL in Dec. 2025. My Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield covered it and since I had met my out of packet max for the year which is $7,000 it was fully covered. Week with the catheter was hard, but since then all is good. Utinating better then before and have had sex 4 times in the two months following the procedure. Going back March 26th for first PSA test. Praying all is good. Lots of things led me to Tulsa Pro mainly the location of my lesson which was anterior ir on the inner layer of the prostate. It was also just one core of the 13 core biopsy that showed 70% abnormal and only 10% of that 70% was 4 for a 3+4=7. All other tests including PSMA PET showed confined. I’m very happy so far with what I did.

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@ucfron Thank you for your detailed response and congrats on your treatment success.

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@paulcalif Thank you for the detailed explanation. I have been watching TULSA Pro procedure since 2015 but at that point, it was only in clinical trial. My doctor here in Arizona wouldn't perform it unless I paid $35,000 cash. I could not afford that so here I am in 2026 and saw your Mayo Clinic post. Since I live in Arizona, UCLA is not a viable option. Oh, I could go there but it would cost me time and money to do so. I just need to find a doctor here in Arizona that is not so greedy as to insist on a cash payment and will take Medicare and my Plan G supplement as payment. I am exploring Mayo Clinic here in Arizona to see if that is an option but I haven't discovered if they perform TULSA Pro yet. I have an appointment to discuss Nanoknife procedure in March but I really like the idea of TULSA Pro better.

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@tdoriausername I did Hemi gland Tulsa Pro at Mayo in Jacksonville FL in Dec. 2025. My Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield covered it and since I had met my out of packet max for the year which is $7,000 it was fully covered. Week with the catheter was hard, but since then all is good. Utinating better then before and have had sex 4 times in the two months following the procedure. Going back March 26th for first PSA test. Praying all is good. Lots of things led me to Tulsa Pro mainly the location of my lesson which was anterior ir on the inner layer of the prostate. It was also just one core of the 13 core biopsy that showed 70% abnormal and only 10% of that 70% was 4 for a 3+4=7. All other tests including PSMA PET showed confined. I’m very happy so far with what I did.

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Yes, UCLA accepted my Medicare with supplemental. I spent a couple of nights in an Airbnb while in Santa Monica while having my procedure done. That was during the LA fires and they were a little to close for comfort. I traveled with my girlfriend at that time but honestly, the only thing she helped me with was the ride from the hospital to the Airbnb. I spent the next night after the procedure there but then I drove us back home. The catheter was the only pain and it's more pain in the ass than real pain lol. Best of luck.

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@paulcalif Thank you for the detailed explanation. I have been watching TULSA Pro procedure since 2015 but at that point, it was only in clinical trial. My doctor here in Arizona wouldn't perform it unless I paid $35,000 cash. I could not afford that so here I am in 2026 and saw your Mayo Clinic post. Since I live in Arizona, UCLA is not a viable option. Oh, I could go there but it would cost me time and money to do so. I just need to find a doctor here in Arizona that is not so greedy as to insist on a cash payment and will take Medicare and my Plan G supplement as payment. I am exploring Mayo Clinic here in Arizona to see if that is an option but I haven't discovered if they perform TULSA Pro yet. I have an appointment to discuss Nanoknife procedure in March but I really like the idea of TULSA Pro better.

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@tdoriausername
I wouldn’t rule out Tulsa at UCLA if you are in AZ. Drive over, spend 1 night, have procedure, drive home. You can have catheter removed locally. The procedure for me was painless and I took my normal 2 mile walk the next day. My guess is they will also take your Medicare plus supplement plan. I had zero cost at Mayo Rochester, using Medicare and supplement.

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@mkulkarni065 Hello: Could you tell me where Dr. Raman is located and where he performs TULSA Pro and if the procedure helped you with your PC? Thanks.

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@tdoriausername

Hi...Dr Raman is at UCLA and yes he performs Tulsa Pro procedures.

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@mkulkarni065
I am in Southern CA so UCLA was the closest hospital offering TULSA at the time that I started looking into it. Follow up after the procedure goes on for years if not for a life time. UCLA is not next door for me but it's within a couple hours drive. Dr. Raman has been involved with the Tulsa Trials from the beginning, he is very competent and I have a lot of faith in him. He is a radiologist so he knows how to read MRI's. You'll be getting a lot of those. I did consider the other doctors as well but when I was first interested, insurance was not covering the procedure. I knew that it would be covered by original Medicare starting Jan 1st. 2025. I started my inquiry in early 2024. Dr. Raman felt I could wait as my cancer was not aggressive. I had a Blue Shield Advantage plan in 2024 and UCLA was out of network. I didn't know if I could get a referral or if I did, whether it would be covered. I was very fortunate in being able to switch to original Medicare in early 2024 as Blue Shield allowed me to add their supplemental plan. With original Medicare, I can go to any doctor and it covered the entire procedure. One of the requirements at that time was that the procedure be done at (I think) at a major hospital, not a clinic. So, for you, unless you want to pay out of pocket (I considered it, $40K-ish), you should find out if your insurance will cover TULSA where ever you decide to go. Dr. Raman has a lot of experience, UCLA is either the best or certainly one of the best medical institutions in the country. I am so happy that I chose TULSA, no side effects at all other than no ejaculate but orgasm feels the same and urine flow is better than ever in my life. No problems with continence, no problems at all BUT, to be totally upfront, I had a total ablation and my PSA level has risen from .7 immediate after the procedure to 3 over the year post TULSA. MRI's don't show any tumors and this rise could be due to a couple of things other than cancer. My last 2 psa tests were 2.9 then 3 so acceleration has definitely slowed which implies that it's not cancer recurrance. Dr. Raman is very calming and is keeping a close watch on it. I'm not too worried. If I had it to do over, I would do exactly the same. If you have any other questions, I'm happy to answer them. Best of luck.

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@paulcalif

Hi Paul,

Thank you for sharing your experience! Tulsa is definitely one of my top choices 😊 I am waiting for my appointment at Mayo in Arizona Mar 2-2026 for the targeted Fusion MRI biopsy hopefully it will be good news ✅ And NO chemical castration for sure ……. Please keep me in the loop will share my experience as well……

Ray 😊🇺🇸

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