Emotional health after cancer: How are you doing really?

Posted by azkidney57 @azkidney57, Oct 6, 2019

It struck me after my recent appointment with my oncologist how less focus is put on the emotional aspect of a cancer patient. I go to clinic I am checked in. I am asked in passing how I feel. Mostly I just say I am OK. It’s all routine. I saw my doctor he examined me we discussed the plan of action for my scans blood work. When a cancer patient is asked a how they feel often it’s “medical”. How do you “physically”feel.

Now that I am a “routine” patient at my cancer center no one stops to ask how I am “emotionally”. Don’t get me wrong there are people you can talk to. I feel things become so routine and some days I feel less emotionally “fit” than others. I never like going to the cancer center it stresses me. I am better about it but it is still a source of “depression “ and anxiety for me. When I feel this way I need routine. On my most recent visit I was given an “wrist band” to wear. I felt “branded”. Not only do I have to hold on to the appointment reminder “disc” now I am given an wrist band. It bothered me. So if you are a patient you can easily be identified by the disc and now and a wrist band. That my sound nit picky but I notice everything. If it bothers me it must bother other people as well. What would be good would be a place for patients, all patients, just patients to check in.

Ask us how we are today. Ask how we are coping. Ask care givers who bring in patients how they are coping. They should have “therapy” dogs on patrol. I love dogs and I know that would comfort me. It would take away some of the anxiety I feel each time I go to the cancer center. I am still “new” to my cancer. It’s been 6 months since my cancer diagnosis perhaps that is why I experience so much anxiety. I haven’t “accepted “ my cancer. It isn’t OK I have it. I am working through this.

Asking me how I am is a loaded question. Physically I am OK. Emotionally on some days I can be a bit of a “wreck”. The mortality aspect for me is a source of great distress at times. I realize I need to have perspective. Take one day at a time. Some days I could use a hug because even though I am adult it is scary to go to the cancer center and some days the child in me is more on the surface than the adult me. So I need to reel in the child and let the adult take hold.

Someone suggested mantras. I use one when I feel I need it. I tell myself it will be OK. It’s just a visit it’s just blood work it will be OK. That helps.

I believe all cancer patients have PTSD to some extent. I know I have it. This experience has traumatized me. Feeling sick, having symptoms, the diagnosis, the surgery, the recovery, the appointments, the blood work, the scans, the exams, the probing, going back to work, trying to regain “normalcy”, realizing there is a “new” normal, learning to live life the best you can. It is a bit much. It does get better and has gotten better. So when I am asked how I am doing it is a complex question and the answer on some days is convoluted.

At work people always ask how I am no one knows about my cancer because that is my busy but people know I was “sick”. I answer I am OK and move on because the question for me is complex. I would like to respond “ are you asking how I am physically or emotionally?”. No one has time for that. It takes too long.

My close friend asked me how I was and she and asked, “how are you really?”. In this “instant” and mostly impersonal world I am learning how the simple things, the unspoken words, the touch or hug, are often the most impacting. Cancer is teaching me to pay attention to what is around me, next to me, near by. Life is so precious don’t waste it.

How are you feeling today? How are you really? Do you need a hug? Are you feeling sad today? Is there something I can do for you right now?

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@loribmt

@miriam57 Hi Miriam, yes indeed, Chemo can get rid of the cancer! I’m living proof of that and so are millions of other people. There are so many kinds of chemotherapy. Some are more aggressive than others depending on the target. Cancer cells are crafty and need to be hit hard and fast. The Taxol interferes with the growth and spread of cancer cells in the body so it’s exactly the aim of your oncologist to rid your body of those cancer cells.

When you were on Taxol before did you experience any side effects? Were you given any educational background as to what to expect while on chemo? Because anytime you’re on a medication that disrupts fast growing cancer cells, it can also interfere with the other fast growing cells in your body such as soft tissue in your mouth which can get sore and tender, there can be a loss of taste, it can cause some hair loss and possible nausea. These are all temporary issues while you’re going through chemo and can linger a while afterwards. But our bodies have remarkable abilities to heal and regenerate. We just have to get rid of the offenders first!

I’m posting some links below that can help you better understand the possible side effects of chemo and what to do about it. Just know that you are not alone here! So many of us have similar journeys of cancer, chemo and recovery to a full and happy life.
Hugs! Lori
https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/chemotherapy/in-depth/get-ready-for-possible-side-effects-of-chemotherapy/art-20111159
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/page/cancer-education-center/tab/nutrition-and-cancer/

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Living proof here, too, after chemo treatments in 2007 and 2011. I was diagnosed with Stage IV breast cancer in 2011. Guess I beat that, huh?

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@miriam57

Lori, I appreciate your words of support. I am still trying to figure out that chemo could get rid of the cancer. Is that really possible? The icing, I had, read or heard and Mayo seems to support the idea, if you ice pack your feet and hands during the whole time you receive the Taxol it could help. I am not sure if this was it alone, but it did seem to work. Especially compared to my first time. I will know more when I do it again next time. I am willing to try anything...

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@miriam57 Hi Miriam, yes indeed, Chemo can get rid of the cancer! I’m living proof of that and so are millions of other people. There are so many kinds of chemotherapy. Some are more aggressive than others depending on the target. Cancer cells are crafty and need to be hit hard and fast. The Taxol interferes with the growth and spread of cancer cells in the body so it’s exactly the aim of your oncologist to rid your body of those cancer cells.

When you were on Taxol before did you experience any side effects? Were you given any educational background as to what to expect while on chemo? Because anytime you’re on a medication that disrupts fast growing cancer cells, it can also interfere with the other fast growing cells in your body such as soft tissue in your mouth which can get sore and tender, there can be a loss of taste, it can cause some hair loss and possible nausea. These are all temporary issues while you’re going through chemo and can linger a while afterwards. But our bodies have remarkable abilities to heal and regenerate. We just have to get rid of the offenders first!

I’m posting some links below that can help you better understand the possible side effects of chemo and what to do about it. Just know that you are not alone here! So many of us have similar journeys of cancer, chemo and recovery to a full and happy life.
Hugs! Lori
https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/chemotherapy/in-depth/get-ready-for-possible-side-effects-of-chemotherapy/art-20111159
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/page/cancer-education-center/tab/nutrition-and-cancer/

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Lori, I appreciate your words of support. I am still trying to figure out that chemo could get rid of the cancer. Is that really possible? The icing, I had, read or heard and Mayo seems to support the idea, if you ice pack your feet and hands during the whole time you receive the Taxol it could help. I am not sure if this was it alone, but it did seem to work. Especially compared to my first time. I will know more when I do it again next time. I am willing to try anything...

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@miriam57

I just had my second round of chemo for recurrent metastatic endometrial cancer. I packing my feet and hands in ice for 3 hours during Taxol. It May have helped with the muscle and nerve pain. Also taking Vitamin D, multi vitamin and B6 per the nurse practitioner. I have one more round and they will do a scan on March 4. I am not sure what is next or what I should expect. But it is good to see people living longer with this disease.

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@miriam57 I’m so sorry you’re having to go through treatments again. It’s always disconcerting when our cancer foe makes a return visit. Stay optimistic that these latest rounds of chemo will take out the cells once and for all. Do you have lingering nerve and muscle pain after your Taxol or is it only during the infusions? Is icing done to preempt the issue? I’m not familiar with Taxol but after reading about it just now, it sounds like you’re receiving the very best option for your endometrial cancer. So stay the course and trust your team!
What I learned on my cancer journey, is to take each day as it comes. Sounds so trite but it’s true. Giving up hope was never an option and remaining positive was foremost in my mind. Worrying about what was coming next did nothing but waste my strength and energy because whatever I imagined, never happened. It’s the stories we tell ourselves that create unnecessary stress.
Stay strong, stay positive! You’ve got this! Lori

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@loribmt

@miriam57 Thank you so much for your positive comment about the stories posted on Mayo Connect, reminding you that it’s possible to get better! There is hope shared on this site. The inspirational stories of struggle, tenacity, and achievement are so uplifting. That spirit of endurance while we’re on a desperate journey is shared among this community.

How are you doing with your latest treatments? I hope you’re responding well and growing stronger daily. Wishing you all the best, Lori

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I just had my second round of chemo for recurrent metastatic endometrial cancer. I packing my feet and hands in ice for 3 hours during Taxol. It May have helped with the muscle and nerve pain. Also taking Vitamin D, multi vitamin and B6 per the nurse practitioner. I have one more round and they will do a scan on March 4. I am not sure what is next or what I should expect. But it is good to see people living longer with this disease.

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@miriam57

These stories are all reminders to me that it is possible to get better. Thankyou all for posting these.

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@miriam57 Thank you so much for your positive comment about the stories posted on Mayo Connect, reminding you that it’s possible to get better! There is hope shared on this site. The inspirational stories of struggle, tenacity, and achievement are so uplifting. That spirit of endurance while we’re on a desperate journey is shared among this community.

How are you doing with your latest treatments? I hope you’re responding well and growing stronger daily. Wishing you all the best, Lori

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@miriam57

These stories are all reminders to me that it is possible to get better. Thankyou all for posting these.

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@miriam57- Good morning. Survivors equal HOPE!

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These stories are all reminders to me that it is possible to get better. Thankyou all for posting these.

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@earscan

I am recovering and everything looks good. I thought I wasn't going to make it, so the fact that everything eventually turned out ok is great. However, my emotional level is not up to chitter chatter of every day conversation; things seem so superficial and mundane when before I was so happy-go-lucky. Sometimes the emotional content takes longer to heal than the physical. I am fighting though it, seeing friends, talking to others on the phone and realizing that my journey was totally personal and it is real to us who are on Connect to share with each other and grow strong. Thank you for your feedback! Gina

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@earscan The fact that you’re recovering is wonderful news. How long ago was your treatment? From personal experience, going through a cancer journey is a singular experience. We can have the most amazing caregivers and friends who are with us every step of the way. They’re well meaning and devoted. But unless someone has gone through the experience themselves they can’t feel the depth of the emotional toll. You are so right about mental healing taking much longer than our bodies did to recover.

It’s not uncommon for us to feel a sense of PTSD. My recovery has gone well, but it was about 16 months later when the gravity of my situation, what I accomplished and survived really hit home. I never realized I had this little “dark shadow of doubt” lurking over my shoulder. It was vague and internal. Facing that triggered a release. It’s now gone! I feel released, energized and back to my old self.
I also found art to be very healing. It gave me momentary periods of escape. Being so focused on what I was doing, allowed for incremental healing to go on in areas of my brain that welcomed the distraction. Do you have any hobbies or outside interests?

From my personal perspective you’re doing everything right. Keeping in touch with friends and family really helps. Though Covid has dealt us a nasty setback in that area. Does your cancer center have any local support groups you could attend? I’m happy you’ve joined us on Mayo Connect. There are so many wonderful people in this community who all work together to assist each other.

Hugs, Lori.

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@earscan

After my cancer surgery, I was a hospital in-patient for 7 days and there was a minor procedure that needed to be done. The tech tried it twice and it didn't work; then the charge nurse ried it and it didn't work; then the PA tried it and it didn't work. Somewhere, during these 4 times, and I was terrified because the first time I was more or less ripped in a sensitive part of me and so I was apprehensive after that - some where, some time, a patient tech took my hand and held it during the procedure. She held it tight and she never let go. I was not alone. I loved her for the compassion she showed me,without a word or a hug, it was that hand that reached out and went straight to my heart. Bless whoever she was, because she has the soul of the caretaker and she understands us. Thank you my dear perfect stranger!

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@earscan- After my last lobectomy, one of my infusion needles was very uncomfortable. It was an antibiotic and I had to have it replaced. Several male interns couldn't reinsert the IV. When the 3rd one started to try I told them, not one more needle goes in my arm. Finally, the female intern came in and did it in a blink. She had turned it into fun and got me out of exploding! I really liked her a lot. We women just have a way!

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