CA 27-29 numbers rising: Does anyone else have an issue like this?

Posted by sandyjr @sandyjr, Jul 1, 2019

My Ca 27.29 seems to be high....in the 40’s....and my oncologist says that that is probably normal for me. He checked the records from my first bc. Does anyone else have an issue like this?

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@colleenyoung

Welcome, @cchappy22. I'm tagging fellow members @sheilaray @kstar077 @renunciate @kensiejames, who have also mentioned they are breast cancer survivors living with rheumatoid arthritis (RA). They may also have experience with wonky tumor marker results.

I also found these research paper that talk about tumor markers and RA:
- Tumor markers are elevated in patients with rheumatoid arthritis and do not indicate presence of cancer https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22462421/
- Serum Tumor Marker Levels in Rheumatoid Arthritis https://jag.journalagent.com/aot/pdfs/AOT_49_3_237_242.pdf

I'd be interested to hear if your cancer team suggests a different monitoring test for you. I can imagine getting the results of elevated CA 25-27 is nerve-wracking.

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Thank you very much for tagging me on this! I will definitely be sharing this, as my team doesn't seem to be familiar with R/A. Super helpful. 🙂

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@colleenyoung

Welcome, @cchappy22. I'm tagging fellow members @sheilaray @kstar077 @renunciate @kensiejames, who have also mentioned they are breast cancer survivors living with rheumatoid arthritis (RA). They may also have experience with wonky tumor marker results.

I also found these research paper that talk about tumor markers and RA:
- Tumor markers are elevated in patients with rheumatoid arthritis and do not indicate presence of cancer https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22462421/
- Serum Tumor Marker Levels in Rheumatoid Arthritis https://jag.journalagent.com/aot/pdfs/AOT_49_3_237_242.pdf

I'd be interested to hear if your cancer team suggests a different monitoring test for you. I can imagine getting the results of elevated CA 25-27 is nerve-wracking.

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Hi, @cchappy22 & @colleenyoung! I do have RA and my CA 27.29 levels have fluctuated and in September were up over 36, but not over 40. My oncologist didn't seem concerned about the values so far. She has told me she takes many test values and my own history into account to determine whether to worry or not. For background, I'm 52, first BC Dx was 1997, second was 2021. I was Dx with RA around 2012ish. In 1997 I had lumpectomy, lymph node removal, AC chemo, 35xRadiation, 5 years tamoxifen. In 2021 I had bilateral mastectomy and now AI (no chemo or radiation this time around).

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@cchappy22

Hi. I’m new to this site. I had lumpectomy 10 years ago and radiation. For the first 5 years my CA 25-27 tumor markers were all in normal range then they started going up to 50’s and 60’s. My oncologist was testing me on a regular basis and sent me in for PET scan during this time. Nothing showed up. A couple years later I was diagnosed with Rheumatoid Arthritis. One time I was having an RA flare up and my CA 25-27 number shot up to 105. Went down after flare up cleared. I now have my RA medicine working pretty well and flare ups only happen rarely. Now My tumor marker tests have been two in the normal range and the others 40. Have other people had a similar experience?

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Welcome, @cchappy22. I'm tagging fellow members @sheilaray @kstar077 @renunciate @kensiejames, who have also mentioned they are breast cancer survivors living with rheumatoid arthritis (RA). They may also have experience with wonky tumor marker results.

I also found these research paper that talk about tumor markers and RA:
- Tumor markers are elevated in patients with rheumatoid arthritis and do not indicate presence of cancer https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22462421/
- Serum Tumor Marker Levels in Rheumatoid Arthritis https://jag.journalagent.com/aot/pdfs/AOT_49_3_237_242.pdf

I'd be interested to hear if your cancer team suggests a different monitoring test for you. I can imagine getting the results of elevated CA 25-27 is nerve-wracking.

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@windyshores

My oncologist doesn't do these blood markers at all. I am 9 years out and stopped letrozole at 5 years. I have no idea how I will know I am stage 4. How many of you have docs who do this testing?

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I’m just entering year 3 ( 20 mos on AI) and your stats are very inspirational!

That said, it’s an unnerving lifelong worry! The docs say they go by symptoms… then scans… but who wants to WAIT for symptoms!!! As I’m still with an oncologist I do get MRI every year.

I am in the Signatera program and I find a negative result to be encouraging but there are false negatives there also.

I’m planning to explant; not comfortable with a foreign body in my body and I have had a good bit of itching for the year plus that I’ve had a silicone boob. Also new reports of squamous cell carcinoma ( very aggressive once established) with silicone.

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My oncologist doesn't do these blood markers at all. I am 9 years out and stopped letrozole at 5 years. I have no idea how I will know I am stage 4. How many of you have docs who do this testing?

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I'm just putting this in the mix. My 27.29 was high, but I believe it was due to lymphedema. My onc sent me to a surgeon who suggested breast massage. For me that worked. I will see what the numbers are at the end of January. Many doctors don't believe this is a good indicator of anything.

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Hi. I’m new to this site. I had lumpectomy 10 years ago and radiation. For the first 5 years my CA 25-27 tumor markers were all in normal range then they started going up to 50’s and 60’s. My oncologist was testing me on a regular basis and sent me in for PET scan during this time. Nothing showed up. A couple years later I was diagnosed with Rheumatoid Arthritis. One time I was having an RA flare up and my CA 25-27 number shot up to 105. Went down after flare up cleared. I now have my RA medicine working pretty well and flare ups only happen rarely. Now My tumor marker tests have been two in the normal range and the others 40. Have other people had a similar experience?

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@ava333

Hi I am new here. Breast Cancer 3.5 years ago. Stage 1 Hormone Positive/Her Negative. Lumpectomy with Radiation. On Amidex for 3 years. My oncologist told me he does not normally do the CA tests but, his assistant saw me once when he was Out of Town and ordered one. Mt doctor was alittle annoyed because he says they are not reliable and can go up and down causing undo stress and un-necessary tests. Since then my number has gone up and down from high 30's to mid 40's. My last one jumped 13 points to 52 and another intern ordered a CT scan. I am so upset and stressed about my cancer coming back. Anyone else have this and it turn out not cancer related?

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ava333,
My wife's CA27-29 upon diagnosis in Nov 2020 was 676, last weeks test was 187, so for over two years it has bounced around, the lowest it has ever been was 83. Her onc said primarily the same thing, so many things can cause the numbers to be elevated. I've read posts on this site from other women whose numbers fluctuate as well. We are working on trying to not stress on the numbers, but taking into consideration how she is feeling, and how the scans look. Take a breath until after the CT scan. Prayers that your cancer stays away.

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@ava333

Hi @mamabea You posted that your numbers do not fall within guidelines...do you mind me asking you 'range' that they fall in? Mind do not either (high 30's to 40's). However mind jumped 13 points within 4 months. My doctors assistant ordered a CT scan and I am scared. I am 3-1/2 years since BC diagnoses. Thank you in advance...anyone else with info much appreciated.

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Mine went from 18.2 to 31.4. I This was October. My provider didn’t think it was alarming. I now have a pin size lump. I have an apt next week. Last Mamo in June was normal. Praying it’s nothing.
Prayers that your CT is normal!

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@mamabea

Yes, my numbers don't fall within the specific guidelines. My oncologist ordered scans of my entire body and found nothing. I do have some lymphedema, so she thinks that may influence my numbers. She finally decided that she wouldn't worry about the numbers.

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Hi @mamabea You posted that your numbers do not fall within guidelines...do you mind me asking you 'range' that they fall in? Mind do not either (high 30's to 40's). However mind jumped 13 points within 4 months. My doctors assistant ordered a CT scan and I am scared. I am 3-1/2 years since BC diagnoses. Thank you in advance...anyone else with info much appreciated.

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