Permanent SIBO due to removal of ileocecal valve
Is there anyone who has no cure options for SIBO due to the removal of the ileocecal valve? If so, how do you minimize possible long term damage to your intestinal tract? Do you find that digestive enzymes, L-Glutamine, Enteragam or any natural supplements aid in a healthier immune system? if so,
please pass along your best advice. Thanks.
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Hello,
Sorry that you're going through this ordeal, I am in a similar boat with constantly having to fight for a medication that seems to obviously help me. Of course, your doctor is concerned that you may have some other digestive disease lurking - was there a solid reason for your emergency surgery or it is possible that you may have undiagnosed Crohns?
What seems to work for me and others is once getting diagnosed and a treatment plan set out by "top specialists" like the Mayo Clinic, take your paperwork to a regional doctor and kind of "self-direct" your treatment. Your new doctor will either be on board, or they will not. It is okay to shop for doctors.
That said, again try to understand your doctor's hesitancy to re-prescribe Rifaximin, again due to concerns of undiagnosed digestive disease or something else.
Good luck.
Thank you for your response.
I probably should have led with my surgery was due to a genetic abnormality called Meckle’s diverticulum (kind of like a second appendix) that at some point in early childhood had adhered to my right kidney, and my colon had been twisting/flipping back and forth for decades (I thought this severe pain was gas). At some point it didn’t flip back in one of the episodes and I went to the ER, was told my right colon was dilated and destroyed and my bowel was twisted but they didn’t know what. Had a right hemicolectomy and a Meckle’s diverticulumotmy, and the Meckles site collapsed so had another surgery 9 days later
A year after that I started getting really sick. I had some ulcers in my small bowel which started a Crohn’s investigation. GI at Mayo said SIBO couldn’t cause ulcers but I must certainly had it do the lack of valve and gave me around of Xifaxin. No more ulcers as of the pill camera test afterwards, and I have been fine (as fine as you can be with hold acid malabsorption) except for SIBO flare ups. The current GI in the same practice said ulcers were probably caused by the acidic diarrhea getting stuck at the right surgery sites (where all the ulcers were).
The investigation is never the same. Sometimes bacterial tests. Sometimes parasite tests.
It’s just frustrating because I pretty much will always have sibo and having to do miserable stool tests 2-3 times a year for the rest of my life is depressing. And terrifying because if I lose my health insurance I will get extremely ill because I can’t do a bunch of tests.
Because they don’t think I should get xifaxin without constant tests I don’t think I can get them to give a treatment plan without it (I have a treatment plan like that for my hyperadnergic pots and hypermobility).
And I am fine with yearly tests. With colonoscopies even. But not multiple tests and office visits (I don’t live around the corner) every single time I get the sibo they told me would never go away
Does Mayo do breath tests for SIBO? Probably a more tolerable option than stool tests.
I'm not sure if Mayo does breath tests but my SIBO was diagnosed there in 2018 by pulling fluid during endoscopy and then sending it for cultures.
How were you able to get your insurance company to approve Xifaxan every day? My insurance company fought and fought me so I gave up. They won’t let me be on it longer than two weeks in a 3 month time span. I’m in the same situation as you - I had my valve removed so there is nothing to stop the bacteria from coming into my SI. Desperate for info.
I have been SUFFERING with SIBO and yeast in my gut ever since I had my ICV removed from my bowel resection in October 2022. I am currently trying to get a referral from my GI to meet with the Mayo Clinic team in Phoenix. I’ve heard of a nipple valve surgery where they intussuscept part of your small intestine into your large intestine and they create a valve that way. Has anyone looked into this? Has anyone had a surgery like this? I only feel somewhat normal when I take Diflucan and Xifaxan at the same time, but it’s not safe to take diflucan long term and my insurance company won’t approve Xifaxan long term. My symptoms return immediately upon stopping. I’ve tried all the diets. I’m feeling like surgery is my last resort. I’d love to do it if there is a team of doctors out there that can help. Any thoughts?
What insurance company did you have?
Did they ever offer surgery options? I just received a referral to the Mayo Clinic to explore an ileocecal valve replacement surgery. It’s called a nipple valve. I’m hopefully the Mayo Clinic can be of help 🙏🏼 I think my issue is more of a fungal overgrowth than sibo because I always respond better to diflucan than I do Xifaxan
I have the same issues, ileocecal valve removed in bowel resection surgery in 2003 and SIBO started 2014. I have never heard of the type of surgery that you're describing but my how I would consider it too! I'm very interested to hear if anyone else has info on it. Thanks for posting. I know the misery you're dealing with and I'm so sorry that you're going through all of this. Also, I did a round of Xifaxan and neomycin in November and Medicare and Medicaid wouldn't cover the Xifaxan so my GI doctor helped me apply for the pharmaceutical company's patient assistance program so I could get it at no cost. I'm not certain how often the company would approve low or no cost Xifaxan.
In case you haven’t tried it, I find Atrantil very very helpful for bloating and gas. I have SIBO after resection and ICV removal in 2007 and have all 3 types of gas present in my SI so I take something for all of them, but predominantly methane which causes constipation and bloating. Atrantil is best bought directly from the company online, it’s least expensive that way. Good luck.