Anyone here dealing with peripheral neuropathy?
Anyone here dealing with peripheral neuropathy?
Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Neuropathy Support Group.
Anyone here dealing with peripheral neuropathy?
Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Neuropathy Support Group.
@user_ch1d4426 @johnbishop
I, too, acquired PN in my feet, legs, and hands from chemo (Paclitaxel) for breast cancer a year ago. Numbness, stiffness, burning, electric shocks, and the subsequent insomnia were driving me crazy. I have been unable to tolerate gabapentin nor venlafaxine.
I then went to a doctor of Chinese medicine and discovered that I couldn't tolerate acupuncture either, but he recommended that I try herbal pills called Zhi Bai Di Huang Wan. I took 6-three times/day and they turned my feet and hands icy cold within minutes. I was able to sleep all night for the first time in about five months.
One day while researching treatments for neuropathic pain I came across a blog, abstracts, trials, etc. on an endogenous fatty acid called Palmitoylethanolamide (PEA) which, for years, has been used successfully in Spain, Italy, Netherlands, Germany, etc. to treat neuropathic pain from numerous pathologies. I have been taking 400mg twice a day since the beginning of October and experienced greatly lessened pain within three-four weeks. Recently, it has allowed me to discontinue the Chinese herbs and still sleep. There are no reported adverse effects from it (except minor bloating for which I take an OTC gas pill). For me, among the best advantages of taking PEA (besides sleeping) is that I no longer experience a rebound of burning and electric shocks following exercise. (I exercise about 4-5 hrs./week to retrain my brain from the loss of balance and coordination when I acquired the PN, and the lingering cognitive issues of chemo.) The PEA has done nothing for the numbness, stiffness, and occasional swelling, however.
I still cannot tolerate closed shoes and look ridiculous, I'm sure, wearing socks/sandals on the treadmill at the gym, and throughout the cold weather, but that's the way it is. (It's a fashion improvement over wearing a hat, scarf, sweater, and sandals at the gym before my hair grew back!)
Will PEA's benefits continue? We'll see, I guess.
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Which supplements do you take specifically for neuropathy? I am unable to tell from the sites you have provided. Thanks!
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1 Reaction@elizm -- the over the counter supplements I take are listed on the closed Facebook groups website on the instructions page here:
-- http://solutions2pnpd.com/instructions/ The group is a registered 501c3.
I would recommend joining the group and reading all of the new member information first. Also, it's always a good idea to run the list of supplements by your doctor or pharmacist. There are over 8,000+ members in the group and it's very easy to search and learn the specifics of how each member was helped by the protocol by reading their stories.
Does anyone have any knowledge or experience with Wharton's jelly injections for PN? There are clinics offering it and claiming that there are no risks. Wharton's jelly is taken from the umbilical cord of newborns (normally it is disposed of with the afterbirth unless the parents want it stored for future use). The clinics claim that it can help with PN plus arthritis and other inflammation and auto-immune damage.
Thanks for the recommendation. I'm so glad I joined Connect. I've gotten so much valuable information.
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1 ReactionHello @ndttech, welcome to Mayo Clnic Connect. I've not heard of Wharton's jelly injections for PN but I did find some information that may help. I'm not sure there has been any clinical trials for stem cell therapy for peripheral neuropathy. There have been a lot of clinics popping up all over the country touting stem cell therapy treatments which is why the FDA put out a warning. I think stem cell therapy holds a lot of hope but I don't think it's quite there yet. I would want to see some extensive clinical trials that show it works.
FDA Warns About Stem Cell Therapies
-- https://www.fda.gov/forconsumers/consumerupdates/ucm286155.htm
Porcine Wharton’s jelly cells distribute throughout the body after intraperitoneal injection
-- https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5813394/
Long term effect and safety of Wharton's jelly-derived mesenchymal stem cells on type 2 diabetes
-- https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4997981/
Thank you John. This is very useful information.
I followed all links and the articles are very positive about the potential benefits of Wharton's Jelly injections for diabetics and PN.
Looks like a human clinical study was done in China with very positive outcome.
If you hear of any human trials here, I would volunteer.
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1 Reaction@elizm - I have a friend who has had bad toes for 20 years - and she, like you, wears sandals all year! Friends don't care what friends wear!!!!
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2 ReactionsHi Lindy, I too have been battling with residuals in the wake of gbs 2013. I have numb toes fingers knees & a band around my ribcage. Does hubby find that different weather, such as humidity effects the severity of these residuals?
CBD oil works for few days. lidocaine ointment 5% more effective