Worried this might be anal cancer

Posted by blac @blac, Jan 13, 2024

Have been having this pain around the left side of my anus its very painful mostly at night and feels hard,
This pain as lasted for 3years now each day,
And more recently am noticing some kind of small growth in the left opening

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Intensity-Modulated Radiation Therapy (IMRT) is an advanced form of radiation treatment commonly used to target cancerous tumors with precision, minimizing damage to surrounding healthy tissues. It uses computer-controlled linear accelerators to deliver radiation in sculpted doses that conform to the shape of the tumor. While effective for many cancers (e.g., prostate, head and neck, breast, and brain tumors), IMRT’s long-term effects depend on factors like the treatment area, dosage, patient health, and duration of exposure. Below, I’ll outline the potential long-term effects based on available medical understanding.
General Long-Term Effects
Secondary Cancers: Radiation, even when precisely targeted, can damage DNA in healthy cells, potentially leading to secondary malignancies years or decades later. The risk is relatively low with IMRT due to its precision, but it’s not zero—estimated at 1-5% higher than no radiation, depending on the study and site treated.
Fibrosis: Over time, radiation can cause scarring or thickening of connective tissues (fibrosis) in the treated area. This might lead to stiffness, reduced mobility, or organ dysfunction (e.g., lung fibrosis after chest radiation).
Chronic Fatigue: Some patients report persistent tiredness long after treatment, though this is less specific to IMRT and more a general radiation therapy outcome.
Vascular Damage: Radiation can affect blood vessels, potentially leading to reduced blood flow or increased risk of cardiovascular issues, especially in areas like the chest or neck.
Site-Specific Long-Term Effects
Head and Neck: Dry mouth (xerostomia) from salivary gland damage, difficulty swallowing (dysphagia), dental issues, or thyroid dysfunction. Some patients experience hearing loss or jaw stiffness (trismus).
Prostate: Urinary incontinence, erectile dysfunction, or bowel issues like chronic diarrhea or rectal bleeding due to damage to nearby tissues.
Breast: Skin changes (thickening or discoloration), lymphedema (arm swelling), or rare heart complications if the left breast is treated.
Brain: Cognitive decline (e.g., memory or concentration problems), radiation necrosis (dead tissue in the brain), or hormonal imbalances if the pituitary gland is affected.
Factors Influencing Outcomes
Dosage and Fractionation: Higher doses or fewer fractions (hypofractionation) might increase late effects.
Age: Younger patients may face higher risks of secondary cancers due to longer life expectancy post-treatment.
Adjuvant Therapies: Combining IMRT with chemotherapy can amplify long-term effects on tissues or organs.
Mitigation and Monitoring
Modern IMRT techniques (e.g., image-guided IMRT or proton therapy variants) continue to evolve, reducing collateral damage compared to older radiation methods. Long-term effects are monitored through follow-ups, imaging, and symptom management (e.g., salivary stimulants for dry mouth or physical therapy for fibrosis). Patients are often advised to avoid smoking and maintain a healthy lifestyle to minimize risks.

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@katme

Samclembeau, Thank you for your post! Galleri blood test detected anal cancer markers and HPV16 in early February 2025 (now confirmed via HMO biopsy). My Medicare HMO feels like my cancer is slow growing and is not urgent, so I’m awaiting surgery and testing for staging at end of march 2025. I’m in SF Bay Area and I’m amazed that there are 4 proton radiation centers in SoCal but not a single one in our tech heavy area. I’m planning 2nd opinion for post surgery treatment. I’m guessing that I will need to self pay to go outside of my Medicare HMO for proton treatment in SoCal. I would love to hear more about your experience, if you have time. I have lots of planning to do while waiting for surgery and staging because I am primary caretaker for my life partner who has lots of health problems, including severe dementia. I need to plan for his care too.

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I am a 67 year old woman
That is still in the staging and final testing phase. I did check in into the proton center in San Diego and they told me my insurance which is a Blue Cross and Medicare would cover it. I’m still trying to look at all my options as I have severe osteoporosis and urinary urgency so I’m so nervous about regular IMRT radiation and it’s long term effects.

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@roywalton

See the following..... I believe proton therapy is preferred only when the cancer is very localized and difficult to target...

Proton therapy may be advised for anal cancer in specific situations where its unique properties can provide an advantage over traditional radiation therapy (like X-ray-based treatments such as IMRT). Proton therapy delivers radiation with high precision, targeting tumors while minimizing damage to surrounding healthy tissues due to its ability to deposit most of its energy at a specific depth (the Bragg peak) and then stop, reducing "exit dose" radiation.
For anal cancer, proton therapy might be considered in the following scenarios:
Preserving Nearby Organs: Anal cancer is typically treated with chemoradiation (chemotherapy combined with radiation). The anus, rectum, bladder, reproductive organs, and pelvic bones are close to the treatment area. Proton therapy can reduce radiation exposure to these structures, potentially lowering the risk of side effects like bowel or bladder dysfunction, sexual dysfunction, or pelvic bone damage.

Recurrent Disease: In cases where anal cancer recurs after prior radiation, proton therapy might be used to target the tumor while sparing previously irradiated tissues, reducing the risk of cumulative toxicity.

Complex Tumor Location: If the tumor is in a challenging location (e.g., near the sacral nerves or involving lymph nodes in the pelvis), proton therapy’s precision might help avoid nerve damage or other complications.

Reducing Long-Term Side Effects: For younger patients or those with a good prognosis (e.g., early-stage squamous cell carcinoma of the anus), proton therapy might be considered to minimize long-term risks like secondary cancers or chronic gastrointestinal issues.

Patient-Specific Factors: It may be recommended for patients with specific comorbidities (e.g., inflammatory bowel disease) where minimizing radiation to healthy tissue is critical, or in cases where standard radiation doses might exceed safe limits for nearby organs.

When It’s Typically Not Advised
Standard Cases: For most patients with anal cancer (especially early-stage disease), conventional radiation therapy (like intensity-modulated radiation therapy, IMRT) combined with chemotherapy (e.g., 5-FU and mitomycin-C) is highly effective, with cure rates exceeding 80% for localized disease. Proton therapy’s added cost and limited availability often make it unnecessary unless there’s a clear benefit.

Lack of Evidence: While proton therapy shows promise, large-scale clinical trials directly comparing it to IMRT for anal cancer are limited. It’s not yet a standard recommendation in guidelines like those from the National Comprehensive Cancer Network (NCCN) unless specific circumstances apply.

Expert Consensus
Doctors typically weigh factors like tumor stage (e.g., T1-T4), lymph node involvement, patient health, and prior treatments.

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Thank you for your opinion.

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@rioa21

I am happy to report that my scans were all good. I am considered to be in remission! I won’t need a CT scan again until next year. It’s been a long three years.

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That’s great news! So happy for you.

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@katme

Wow Rio, sounds like you’ve been through a lot! Happy to hear that your quality of life is better now. Hernia surgery is a piece of cake compared to your prior medical treatments. Do you know if you had photon or proton radiation? I have read that proton radiation is more targeted to needed area and is less likely to damage surrounding areas. I’m having surgery soon but need to figure out next steps after surgery and staging.

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I am happy to report that my scans were all good. I am considered to be in remission! I won’t need a CT scan again until next year. It’s been a long three years.

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@tinamarie2025

Hi my name is Tina, and I was recently diagnosed with squamous cell carcinoma anal cancer. I am a 53 year old female. Over the last two years I had some anal itching but didn't think anything of it. I had recently went through surgery for a total thyroid ectomy and the pain medication caused me to become constipated, which in that time is when I noticed that I had a huge tumor protruding in the vaginal area. I went to see the doctor to find out it was not in the vaginal area but it was in the rectal area. CT scans and MRI revealed a mass and also a lymph node that was enlarged. They did a colonoscopy and found the mass did a biopsy and it was then revealed to be staged 2 squamous cell carcinoma anal cancer. I was ordered to do two rounds of chemotherapy one in the beginning of treatment and another at the fifth week I was given two different medication one was given in the office the other was put on a pump that I went home with for 5 days. I have finished both rounds of chemotherapy and I am now finishing my radiation. As I started the beginning of the 6th week of radiation they had to stop and give me a week's break because I was burned so badly down in that area that I could not handle any more radiation. I was ordered 30 plus session of radiation, which is a total of seven whole weeks. I still have 2 weeks left to go

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Hi @tinamarie2025, I wanted to check in. You're almost done with radiation. How are you doing?

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@lana67

Hi there,
I am a 67 year old woman just diagnosed with SSC anal cancer. It’s in the anus and mesorectal lymph nodes. I’m still waiting a pelvic MRI and am in the process of getting second opinions T Fred Hutch Cancer Center in Seattle. The first week of April I will be meeting with an oncologist, colorectal surgeon, and radiation oncologist. It’s the radiation I find terrifying so I had started looking at proton therapy and found a place in San Diego. I’m curious what staging you were and if lymph nodes were involved with the proton therapy. I’ve read some mixed reviews with IMRT vs proton therapy so I feel I just don’t know enough. Any more info you can share would be appreciated.

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I was stage 3 with 2 lymph nodes affected. Also it was wrapped with my sphincter muscle. I am fortunate to have found proton radiation. I believe that if I had gone the traditional radiation route, my sphincter muscle could have been damaged severely. I went to the proton center in San Diego. Pm me if you want further info

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See the following..... I believe proton therapy is preferred only when the cancer is very localized and difficult to target...

Proton therapy may be advised for anal cancer in specific situations where its unique properties can provide an advantage over traditional radiation therapy (like X-ray-based treatments such as IMRT). Proton therapy delivers radiation with high precision, targeting tumors while minimizing damage to surrounding healthy tissues due to its ability to deposit most of its energy at a specific depth (the Bragg peak) and then stop, reducing "exit dose" radiation.
For anal cancer, proton therapy might be considered in the following scenarios:
Preserving Nearby Organs: Anal cancer is typically treated with chemoradiation (chemotherapy combined with radiation). The anus, rectum, bladder, reproductive organs, and pelvic bones are close to the treatment area. Proton therapy can reduce radiation exposure to these structures, potentially lowering the risk of side effects like bowel or bladder dysfunction, sexual dysfunction, or pelvic bone damage.

Recurrent Disease: In cases where anal cancer recurs after prior radiation, proton therapy might be used to target the tumor while sparing previously irradiated tissues, reducing the risk of cumulative toxicity.

Complex Tumor Location: If the tumor is in a challenging location (e.g., near the sacral nerves or involving lymph nodes in the pelvis), proton therapy’s precision might help avoid nerve damage or other complications.

Reducing Long-Term Side Effects: For younger patients or those with a good prognosis (e.g., early-stage squamous cell carcinoma of the anus), proton therapy might be considered to minimize long-term risks like secondary cancers or chronic gastrointestinal issues.

Patient-Specific Factors: It may be recommended for patients with specific comorbidities (e.g., inflammatory bowel disease) where minimizing radiation to healthy tissue is critical, or in cases where standard radiation doses might exceed safe limits for nearby organs.

When It’s Typically Not Advised
Standard Cases: For most patients with anal cancer (especially early-stage disease), conventional radiation therapy (like intensity-modulated radiation therapy, IMRT) combined with chemotherapy (e.g., 5-FU and mitomycin-C) is highly effective, with cure rates exceeding 80% for localized disease. Proton therapy’s added cost and limited availability often make it unnecessary unless there’s a clear benefit.

Lack of Evidence: While proton therapy shows promise, large-scale clinical trials directly comparing it to IMRT for anal cancer are limited. It’s not yet a standard recommendation in guidelines like those from the National Comprehensive Cancer Network (NCCN) unless specific circumstances apply.

Expert Consensus
Doctors typically weigh factors like tumor stage (e.g., T1-T4), lymph node involvement, patient health, and prior treatments.

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@samclembeau

I am on Medicare and have supplemental insurance. since proton radiation is now accepted by Medicare it was covered 100%. I also live in the Bay area. I went to California Proton center in San Diego. Loved my doctor. He said anal cancer was his favorite to treat. BTY unless things have changed in the last year, there are only 2 proton centers in California. U of Irvine says they have(I went there for a second opinion) , but don't actually (they are affiliated with ..)and neither does UCSD. There is one in Loma Linda and the one in San Diego. The doctor I had trained at Loma Linda. It's equipment is older since it was the only center for a long time. I was told by them that they did not it do for anal cancer (don't have the numbers) told the same at MD Anderson and Bethesda, and mayo. Don't know how to get the numbers if you don't do them. "gently" ,on this web site, said not to give up so I didn't.
I just had my 9 month PET scan as well as a special blood draw that shows HPV negative. No cancer tumor either. I did very little chemo. Not sure I would even do bother with it.
so sorry about your partner. makes it ever so much more difficult because you have to be in San Diego for 6 weeks. treatment is 5 days a week for 6 weeks.
found it hard to come home on weekends because of treatment (had to stay close to toilet) . Believe me that really is the worst thing that happens. But....You will get over it. no pun intended.
I understand that UCSF will be getting proton in a few years, but doesn't help now. I think it is still possible that you can have your tumor removed surgically and not require radiation or not a much anyway. I don't know. Mine was on my sphincter muscle. so surgery was not an option. If I can help you in any way, please reach out.

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Hi there,
I am a 67 year old woman just diagnosed with SSC anal cancer. It’s in the anus and mesorectal lymph nodes. I’m still waiting a pelvic MRI and am in the process of getting second opinions T Fred Hutch Cancer Center in Seattle. The first week of April I will be meeting with an oncologist, colorectal surgeon, and radiation oncologist. It’s the radiation I find terrifying so I had started looking at proton therapy and found a place in San Diego. I’m curious what staging you were and if lymph nodes were involved with the proton therapy. I’ve read some mixed reviews with IMRT vs proton therapy so I feel I just don’t know enough. Any more info you can share would be appreciated.

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@katme

Samclembeau, Thank you for your post! Galleri blood test detected anal cancer markers and HPV16 in early February 2025 (now confirmed via HMO biopsy). My Medicare HMO feels like my cancer is slow growing and is not urgent, so I’m awaiting surgery and testing for staging at end of march 2025. I’m in SF Bay Area and I’m amazed that there are 4 proton radiation centers in SoCal but not a single one in our tech heavy area. I’m planning 2nd opinion for post surgery treatment. I’m guessing that I will need to self pay to go outside of my Medicare HMO for proton treatment in SoCal. I would love to hear more about your experience, if you have time. I have lots of planning to do while waiting for surgery and staging because I am primary caretaker for my life partner who has lots of health problems, including severe dementia. I need to plan for his care too.

Jump to this post

I am on Medicare and have supplemental insurance. since proton radiation is now accepted by Medicare it was covered 100%. I also live in the Bay area. I went to California Proton center in San Diego. Loved my doctor. He said anal cancer was his favorite to treat. BTY unless things have changed in the last year, there are only 2 proton centers in California. U of Irvine says they have(I went there for a second opinion) , but don't actually (they are affiliated with ..)and neither does UCSD. There is one in Loma Linda and the one in San Diego. The doctor I had trained at Loma Linda. It's equipment is older since it was the only center for a long time. I was told by them that they did not it do for anal cancer (don't have the numbers) told the same at MD Anderson and Bethesda, and mayo. Don't know how to get the numbers if you don't do them. "gently" ,on this web site, said not to give up so I didn't.
I just had my 9 month PET scan as well as a special blood draw that shows HPV negative. No cancer tumor either. I did very little chemo. Not sure I would even do bother with it.
so sorry about your partner. makes it ever so much more difficult because you have to be in San Diego for 6 weeks. treatment is 5 days a week for 6 weeks.
found it hard to come home on weekends because of treatment (had to stay close to toilet) . Believe me that really is the worst thing that happens. But....You will get over it. no pun intended.
I understand that UCSF will be getting proton in a few years, but doesn't help now. I think it is still possible that you can have your tumor removed surgically and not require radiation or not a much anyway. I don't know. Mine was on my sphincter muscle. so surgery was not an option. If I can help you in any way, please reach out.

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