Anyone have side effects after Lanreotide injection?

Posted by genovaldi @genovaldi, Jul 3, 2024

I have been doing injection for a year now but as of a few months ago after the injection I am feeling very sluggish, and this would happen before the injection and now it's after. I did tell my doc and now I TAKE octreotide as needed. Anyone else have this?

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I have recently been diagnosed with a net in my ilium and one in my pancreas. This is all new to me as I have never had any bad health. I do have Crohns. When I ask if a net is cancerous the response is we don’t know unless a biopsy is done. Currently I am on a “watch” list. More testing in 6 months for ilium one year for pancreas. After being on many support sites, it seems that most nets are cancer and instead of removing them you get shots instead and the nets multiply and metastasized. People are in pain from the shot. The shot causes other diseases. I was diagnosed May, 2026. I have no complications with Crohns. Went on tremfya in May. Has anyone had their net(s) watched and found the nets never spread or metastasized?

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@bonnerpb: if I was in your situation I would immediately ask for 2nd opinion consultation from a-NET Medical Oncologist with Pancreatic Speciality (see Mayo or University Med Centers with Neuroendocrine Specialists)!!!!
TRUE most NET tumors are slow growing - but NOT all! FALSE the Lanreotide Shot is NOT painful - if injected with correct protocol there is no pain (some feel tired after shot). Also this Lanreotide shot should stop most symptoms (diarrhea, etc) and has known to control some tumor growth. NET tumors ARE cancerous and can metastasize at a microscopic rate in the blood stream = better to be proactive and very viligant with this disease! From a 4 1/2 yr NET survivor so far… That’s my opinion.
Also: Confer with specialists regarding NET tumors treatments including surgery from NET Specialists!
Best health to you, Bette

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I have recently been diagnosed with a net in my ilium and one in my pancreas. This is all new to me as I have never had any bad health. I do have Crohns. When I ask if a net is cancerous the response is we don’t know unless a biopsy is done. Currently I am on a “watch” list. More testing in 6 months for ilium one year for pancreas. After being on many support sites, it seems that most nets are cancer and instead of removing them you get shots instead and the nets multiply and metastasized. People are in pain from the shot. The shot causes other diseases. I was diagnosed May, 2026. I have no complications with Crohns. Went on tremfya in May. Has anyone had their net(s) watched and found the nets never spread or metastasized?

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Thank you. I am doing further investigation and I do have access to a NET team.

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@hopeful33250 I appreciated hearing from people who have small bowel cancer. My bowel cancer was discovered when a liver biopsy was not found to be metastic bladder cancer!
I do NOT have any symptoms except for some fatigue... so the fact that the side effects may produce the symptoms (that they are supposed to lessen ... but which I am presently NOT experiencing) upsets me.
I do not understand why I could not just go straight to radiation treatments which are believed to shrink the actual ileum tumor.

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@sposieneedshelp

When I was diagnosed with a NET, I did not have any symptoms as well. That is true for many of us with NETs. I have had three surgeries with no symptoms beforehand. You mentioned that you hesitate to have the monthly injections because you do not currently have symptoms. As a result of the injections, many members have found a reduction in the tumors. As with any medical treatment, it is important to weigh the risks and possible benefits.

At this point, a second opinion regarding treatment might be worthwhile. It would be beneficial to you if this second opinion were with a NET specialist. There are NET specialists at all three Mayo Clinic locations (appointment information is available at http://mayocl.in/1mtmR63). If it is not possible to be seen at a Mayo facility, here is a link from the Neuroendocrine Tumor Research Foundation with NET specialists in the U.S.: https://netrf.org/for-patients/neuroendocrine-tumor-doctor-database/page/8/

I believe a NET specialist can help put your mind at ease about the best possible course of treatment. Would you consider a consultation with a NET specialist?

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Hi Debbie
I just accepted the "rule" about not massaging after the shot, and had not considered the reason. Your question got me wondering "Why". This is what I found.. The second nurse could be correct that rubbing can decrease the potential lumps because the medicine is dispersed, however "You should not massage or rub the injection spot after a Lanreotide (Somatuline® Depot) injection because it can cause the medication to absorb too quickly. Lanreotide is formulated as a slow-release gel; rubbing the area breaks down the drug's timed-release mechanism, potentially causing adverse effects or reducing how long the treatment remains effective. " Information from Somatuline@Depot.
Wish it were not so.

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Debbie
Your question had me questioning. I did not know why the instructions say not to rub.. So I searched for the answer.. Maybe this quoted explanation might explain why massaging the site could prevent lumps but decrease effectiveness.

"You must not massage or rub the injection site after a lanreotide (Somatuline Depot) injection because doing so disrupts the drug's specialized, extended-release formulation and can alter how your body absorbs the medication.Why Massage is ForbiddenDisrupts the Controlled-Release "Depot": Lanreotide is a highly viscous, semi-solid gel.

Once injected into the deep subcutaneous tissue of the buttock, it forms a condensed hub or "depot". This depot is designed to dissolve very slowly over several weeks to give you a steady, continuous dose. Massaging the area can break up this gel depot prematurely.

Alters Absorption Rates: Breaking apart the depot increases its surface area, which can cause the medication to absorb into your bloodstream far too quickly. This can lead to a sudden spike in drug levels followed by an early drop-off before your next scheduled dose. " AI using Ronny Allen as one resource https://ronnyallan.net/2024/06/11/lanreotide-its-calling-the-shots/

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My first lanreotide shot was 8 months ago, and the next morning (about 20 hours after injection) I had horrible vomiting and diarrhea. It was bright yellow, the taste in my mouth was disgusting and it all smelled like chemicals. I couldn't imagine being able to suffer this monthly. I told my doctor and she prescribed ondansetron, which completed solved the problem. No further symptoms of that sort. I do, however, feel my energy and stamina are far less than my old normal (before extensive resection of ileocecal valve, large and small intestines, several lymph nodes, appendix and two liver segments) and take a nap almost every day. The tumours have not grown in the eight months since diagnosis of the recurrence in the liver.

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@sposieneedshelp
I like your moniker! I can only tell you my experience but here is another link which might be helpful.. Lanreotide did have some side effects but the shots reduced my Carcinoid Syndrome Symptoms and felt like a gift. I do have two days of a sort of woozy feeling afterward and a bit of a change in bowels but it is well worth it. Taking Lanreotide means I also get more blood work so that we stay on top of things. My quality of life really improved with Lanreotide. I know others get other side effects but I have been fortunate. It is good for lowering tumor progression too.

Here is some information I bring to the nurses giving the Lanreotide shot. I shortened it. https://www.ncf.net/post/practical-tips-for-patients-on-the-shot-somatostatin-analog

Alternate between left and right for each dose.
Tip: LACNETS founder, Giovanna Joyce Imbesi shared this trick: use ROLE (Right = Odd months, Left = Even months). If reversed, RELO and LORE works just as well. And yes, there are some months where this falls apart like long months that have 2 shots during the 28-day cycle. Whatever your system is, the key is to keep track of which side is injected each month.
Receiving the injection while lying down will keep the gluteus muscle relaxed. To keep it from tensing while receiving the injection in a standing position, place all your weight on the leg NOT receiving the injection.
The time removed from the refrigerator can be verified yourself. The pharmacy or nurse may write the “Out Time” on the box, meaning the time it is taken out of the refrigerator.
Ask questions of any new person before allowing them to administer your shot. A poorly administered shot can be costly and could add to discomfort during or after the injection. Worse yet, it may mean not receiving the full benefit of the medicine until the next dose (usually 28 days).
Here are some questions to ask your nurse before receiving the shot:
Have you given this before?
Have you been trained on the process to prepare and administer this medication?
Do you squeeze or pinch the cheek? Seperate
Plunger time — how long? Count of 20

Note: You can feel to make sure there are no lumps from past shots.
Gently draw their attention to the prescribing information if any items are missed.
Somatuline© Depot syringes have a needle retraction mechanism. When the plunger is bottomed-out, make sure the nurse keeps downward pressure on the plunger, remove the syringe needle from you, and then relieve pressure on the plunger. Failure to do so will retract the needle and your skin into the syringe body, giving a huge (and unnecessary) skin pinch.
Once you’ve received the injection, here are some Do’s, Don’ts, and things to watch out for:
Make sure the nurse does not massage or rub the injection area after the injection.
Afterwards, walk around for ~ 20 minutes. Heating or ice will help reduce any residual pain.
Tip: Remember, Do NOT rub/massage the area.
You may feel tired after the injection or experience other symptoms such as headache or change in bowel habits for several hours or days, even after taking the shot for many months.
. I take it with me to appointments.. It has helped with new people giving the shot..
Giving/Getting the shot:
Alternate between left and right for each dose.
. Whatever your system is, the key is to keep track of which side is injected each month.
Receiving the injection while lying down will keep the gluteus muscle relaxed. To keep it from tensing while receiving the injection in a standing position, place all your weight on the leg NOT receiving the injection.
The time removed from the refrigerator can be verified yourself. (I insist on more than an hour. My center takes it out of the fridge 3 hours ahead) The pharmacy or nurse may write the “Out Time” on the box, meaning the time it is taken out of the refrigerator.
Ask questions of any new person before allowing them to administer your shot. A poorly administered shot can be costly and could add to discomfort during or after the injection. Worse yet, it may mean not receiving the full benefit of the medicine until the next dose (usually 28 days).
Here are some questions to ask your nurse before receiving the shot:
Have you given this before?
Have you been trained on the process to prepare and administer this medication?
Do you squeeze or pinch the cheek? ( always stretch skin)
Plunger time — how long? Count of 20

Note: You can feel to make sure there are no lumps from past shots.
Gently draw their attention to the prescribing information if any items are missed.
Somatuline© Depot syringes have a needle retraction mechanism. When the plunger is bottomed-out, make sure the nurse keeps downward pressure on the plunger, remove the syringe needle from you, and then relieve pressure on the plunger. Failure to do so will retract the needle and your skin into the syringe body, giving a huge (and unnecessary) skin pinch.
Once you’ve received the injection, here are some Do’s, Don’ts, and things to watch out for:
Make sure the nurse does not massage or rub the injection area after the injection.
Afterwards, walk around for ~ 20 minutes. Heating or ice will help reduce any residual pain.
Tip: Remember, Do NOT rub/massage the area.
You may feel tired after the injection or experience other symptoms such as headache or change in bowel habits for several hours or days, even after taking the shot for many months.

( I and many others do not get injection symptoms. Wishing for you that you too receive a better quality of life with Lanreotide.

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@maeve115 Why is the advice NOT to massage after injection? My first nurse did not tell me to massage and after 8 months, I still have a lump. The next nurse told me to massage and I have no further lumps.

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genovaldi
To answer your question. Yes, I too have experienced something similar. I have been taking Lanreotide for over two years. At first it was the wonder drug for me that curtailed Carcinoid Syndrome Symptoms. Amazing!
It began to wear off a bit and I needed to add short acting Ochtreatide shots which I learned to give to myself.
These Ochtreatide shots are sometimes called "Rescue shots" and they have helped. This process sometimes leads to progress in symptom management and sometimes lowering progression and sometimes both positive results.. It was a bit of a disappointment and a challenge when after 18 months the positive effect lessened but gratefully my Oncology team was ready to provide Ochtreatide rescue shots and if need be we can move to Lanreotide shots every 21 days.. I hope you have or can find such support. I find adding Palliative Care and a neutritionist to the team helped.

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@maeve115 Thak you so much for taking the time to write. I really appreciate this information.

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@sposieneedshelp
Your welcome. Someone helped me when I was starting out too.
Your questions are worthy of a NET specialist answers or even a second opinion with another NET Doctor and an aware social worker who can answer and advise you. I like Amy Allen MSW at Mayo Clinic in Rochester MN.

Off the top of my head..
The concern that you are symptom free at the moment and that you might get side effects from the Lanreotide is a real concern. I surmise, that how difficult or not the side effects would be is difficult to determine until one tries. Is slowing down progression worth the side effects?

Your second question: "I do not understand why I could not just go straight to radiation treatments which are believed to shrink the actual ileum tumor." also deserves a response, and again a NET specialist with a solid expertise and experience in the field is needed.

I respect you searching to find the right resources and hope you continue to work finding what you both deserve and need.. It is important to find the NET medical team we click with.

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