4 treatment options from my doctor, which one should I start with?
Here is the summary of my situation. I am 63 years man with a history of a chest mass in 2019 found to be a thymic neuroendocrine tumor (atypical carcinoid, 10 x 10 cm) with invasion into the pericardium. I was initially treated with thymectomy, and did well until recently when metastatic Dotatate avid disease was found in the mediastinum, anterior right hilum and extensively in the bones. A CT guided biopsy of an iliac bone lesion was consistent with metastatic, well-differentiated neuroendocrine tumor (WHO grade 2). I have been treated for 5 courses of radiation to the right scapula and the C2 vertebral body through early May 2, 2023.
Unfortunately, I was told that with thymic NETs I am ineligible for the clinical trial study.
My doctor has proposed 4 treatment options for my consideration,
Option 1. To start octreotide injections and repeat a dotatate PET scan in 3 months;
Option 2. Everolimus, this medicine is approved for carcinoid but probably has the most side effects of the options;
Option 3. Chemotherapy with temozolomide and capecitabine which is a standard option for GI carcinoid tumors and can be used for thymic;
Option 4. Lutathera as a standard therapy if my insurance would give a prior authorization.
Any comment or experience about treatments would be greatly appreciated.
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A week after my first lutathera treatment, I feel great now. I only felt a little bit tired (many naps) and reduced appetizing for 3-4 days after treatment.
Good news! Hope you continue to feel well.
Thank you so much for posting your experience! Very helpful.
Finished my first treatment today from 8 am to 1 pm. All side effects didn't happened to me surprisingly. They may take a time. Will see.
@sandy23 , I have written previously about my experience at Mayo Phoenix in 2021 with the Lutathera. But thought I’d add a few more comments. First, I cannot say enough good about them. They were very knowledgeable, efficient, and patient-oriented. They gave me a bunch of info, answered all my questions, and were quick to reply to anything I sent through the portal.
A day was usually from 7:30-2:30 or so, then I’d go back to the motel and either take a nap or walk before going out to dinner with one of my grown sons. I had a very unusual reaction to the first treatment that neither the docs there or here had ever heard of. Three days after the treatment I got violently sick, had vertigo and passed out briefly. Not telling you this to scare you as again, no one ever heard of this happening. Because of this they reduced the dosage to half and that never happened again. Everyone is different and only you all and your doctors can decide what’s the best course for you. For me they felt that decreasing the dosage would still give me the treatment I needed. Also, they had me take .5 of Ativan + 8 mg Zofran right after my treatment for 24-48 hours afterwards and it worked great in controlling the nausea. So, there’s all kinds of ways to help manage any side effects. Other than that, I would have some fatigue and just generally feel crappy for a couple of days, but then was out and about and on with my life.
I am 73 years old with a long not so good health history, but I would not hesitate to do it again if need be.
Wishing your husband the best of luck. I do believe all will go well.
Your experience has made me less nervous. Thanks so much!
Hi jlu & sandy: I completed PRRT therapy (lutathera) a little over a year ago at Mayo, Arizona so can respond with what to expect from that perspective. It is a long (about 5-6 hours total) day, but in my case not painful or difficult. The procedure starts with 2 IV's (one in each arm) and a lot of fluids. You get an anti-nausea med intravenously first (and they continue to check in with you that you have no nausea--I did not have any). Once that is done, they begin the Peptide solution (amino acids)--in my case I think that went on for a couple of hours prior to the lutathera infusion. That infusion generally took about 45 minutes and they are very cautious during that phase. Once that is done, you have about another 2 hours of the peptide solution--they are flushing a lot of fluid thru you to help protect the kidneys, etc. Once all the fluids are done, they measure the amount of radiation you are giving off and once that is low enough (it always was for me at the end of the fluids infusion) they remove the IV's and you are done. The total process never was longer than 6 hours and I think it was closer to 5 a couple of times. There was a nurse assigned to me the whole time I was there and the radiation therapists were with you during the Lutathera infusion and visited before and after. You have your own bathroom and you definitely need to pee with all that fluid! They always brought me snacks and water/drinks after the Lutathera which was nice. You can nap or read during the day and the staff chat with you too. I was really tired after my first treatment, less so with each one after that--and I think that varies for each patient. But I would plan on lots of napping after your first one, just in case. They will give you distancing protocols for the first 3 days after treatment but encouraged me to walk, etc. and I did when not napping! I also found that I was more comfortable eating certain foods rather than others the first couple of days, but I did not have any nausea--just wasn't very hungry. Everything got easier with each treatment--so stay patient and positive. It was worth it for me and I would do it again. Good luck both!
Well that is more foreboding. We haven't received written instructions. It appears it's less time than we were told. However, she did say 6 to 8 hours with a variance. So I'm guessing it's their TIME she's referring to.
Here is the details of treatment steps of the day.
I did receive the Lutathera treatment plan, instruction, procedure and post-care sheet during consultation. Actually I will start my treatment on June 7 from 8 AM to 1 PM (6 hours) due to other cancellation, pretty similar to what you described. I have also been prescribed nausea medicine just in case of use at home. Blood work should be done before each treatment. I will share my experience of the treatment.