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Zero energy 3+ years after radiation and Firmagon for Stage 1 PC
Prostate Cancer | Last Active: Jan 23 6:29am | Replies (14)Comment receiving replies
I can understand what you are stating about low T and minimal to zero energy. In early 2023, I had 29 Proton sessions followed by ADT/Orgovyx. Before my diagnosis, I was doing testosterone injections every two weeks and my level was approximately 770. Upon receiving my Dx, I immediately stopped the T injections and my level dropped to 55 within weeks. My most recent T levels have been < 16, despite being off the ADT pills since 8/31/23. Between the minimal T in my body and the ever-lingering effects of the Orgovyx, my energy has mostly remained very low, the hot flashes are still an everyday/evening occurrence. My RO has stated I am not to go back on TRT for 2+ years but this is a discussion we will have at my next appointment in April. Most recent PSA = 0.03% so that is not an issue.
Based on readings and input from others, it appears Western medicine is much more stringent on the use of TRT post-radiation or surgery than other parts of the world. Both my better half (a nurse) and I are convinced my low T is responsible for the low energy, zero libido and the fact that I am hot/cold, hot/cold (repeat.....) and I am chilly/cold so often.
I will definitely look at the Life Extension supplement you cite - I have already added others and B12 to try and jumpstart some energy and mental focus!
A question for you or others here: if TRT is "bad" for PC, how is it ok to take other supplements to naturally increase the T levels?
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Regarding your question about using the supplement I use for my T level, the difference is that external "exogenous" T treatments: injections, gels, etc. are introducing T into your system, while the pomegranate and cacao based supplement I use is "endogenous" and only triggers one's body to produce its own T, a result that is dramatically safer than using an actual T product. However, many of the other T "booster supplements contain potentially dangerous ingredients and can lead to serious, or even deadly, consequences. Read some of the medical literature and their "warnings" on those T products.
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Thanks for your reply, though I'm so sorry that you are struggling in much the same fashion as I have been. Your situation, including the feeling cold, lack of energy, possibly revisiting the use of "T" supplementation two years down the road, are all too familiar to me. Keep in mind that when I did return to Androgel use three years after my treatments ended, my liver, kidney, hemoglobin/hematocrit numbers, etc, had all been compromised and I had to stop the Androgel for fear of possible permanent liver or kidney damage, blood clots, and so on. Thankfully, my PSA, which had been at < 0.1 and then 0.1 for three years plus, had only risen to 0.38 during the Androgel use, but that was expected.
I hope you will see some improvement in your "T" level when you begin using the Life Extension Testosterone Elite, though it will likely take 12 weeks or more to start helping your body to produce some "T" on its own. The thing that you and I, and every other guy in this situation, need to avoid is the use of "exogenous" testosterone like Androgel rather than finding ways to trigger our body to produce its own "endogenous" testosterone, as with the LE Testosterone Elite. Stay away from the products you see on TV like Nugenix, and similar "T" boosting supplements as most of them contain ingredients that can quickly cause cardiac, liver, and kidney issues, often permanent and life threatening. The pomegranate, cacao, and luteolin ingredients in the "Elite" are safe and when taken as directed are quite safe, and all of them help to trigger the body to produce "T", but from within. I never had a drop of negative impact on any component of bloodwork from that product in over two plus years, and at least I know the limited improvement helped my bones to solidify enough to reverse the ostopenia I was developing in my hips after stopping my Androgel, so it's something to be thankful for.
Thanks again for your reply and sharing your story, and I hope things start to improve for you. Either way, stay strong, fight like hell, and don't let this BS defeat you.