@sunnyflower Sunny, this may be simplistic, I am not sure. But I do think a giant factor is that your kids are very busy!!!! They don't have the energy to do much more! I know that is true for my son, for sure. Human relationships are complex for sure. But your kids really do have their hands full! I am not siding with them, as I have the same problem with my son. Just saying that they are in a very busy stage of life, when we are not. We aren't congruent with eachother! We love you here, Sunny! Lori Renee