@lioness Thanks for getting back to me. Yes, the Conolidine and the Raw will probably do nothing. Good luck with your new product. I just started Low Dose Naltrexone. I think it takes at least a month to know if it is doing anything. I have no side effects so far, so I will continue. I will post about that when I know more. My best for pain is Kratom. Do not know what I would do without it. Anyway, try to enjoy the holidays. Hang it! Lori Renee