Herbals for SIBO

The herbals noted are fine and safe, and can be effective or not.
ACV "may "add to gerd issues, fermentation issues. SIBO does not directly cause some of the issues noted,
but if epithelial is damaged, and toxins are leaking into blood then sure, histamine, joints, brain. If drugs helped or cured temporarily, it would indicate dysbiosis; H2, H2s or CH4. Maybe sulfur component or primary. Maybe fungas (sifo).

Tthe challenges involved in treating with drugs or herbals involve far more nuance than most patients can absorb and more than "most" GIs can deal with. Your physicians response indicates that she/he is not
qualified to address herbal efficacy. Why would you expect an MD to respond favorably to alternative remedies?

If symptoms returned, did your MD test again? If not, how does she/he know if progress was made or not? Sibo may have retured but if levels were reduced, it may suggesst another round immediately or another longer round or another round but with Metronizadole. etc. Mulitple rounds of drugs or herbal remedies may be required,
alternated and/or coupled with a prokinetic. Did you take a prokinetic, after, before or with? If not, your doc is way, way off the beaten path. You may benefit from a 100-200 hours of online research. Google, Dr. Pimental, Dr Siebecker and siboinfo.

Consider giving herbals a whirl, but get an ND/DC who has taken mastery coursework. SIBO/ IMO are not taught in school, right? It is not possible for an ND/ DC or MD to reach first base without a minium of 50 hours of training. My background includes 50 hrs into formal, online training and a thousand additional hours over ten years and am not an expert.

What did they do to treat it that worked? I took Xifaxin and also did low fodmap. It came back almost immediately. I have many risk factors I can't change (torturous colon, gastric bypass, and Ehlers Danlos). I'm willing to travel to the right doc's and the right treatment.

Dysbiocide and FC Cidal are two herbal capsules I took for 42 days. You can order from Amazon. I have had Sibo several times. Limit your sweets. Too much sweets can cause Sibo for some people.

Just sharing what has helped me.
I did Xifaxin, afterwards the low Fodmap diet including 2 Ginger root capsules (1,100 mg a day) to get rid of leftover bad bacteria. Worked with a nutritionist, who recommended the ginger.
So far, so good.
Wishing well to those ailing SIBO etc.

Hi rmv65, After 3 endoscopies and prescriptions drugs, I had had enough, especially when the GI after my last endoscopy told me to never take a PPI again as the cells in my intestines were hypertrophic. So...I knew I needed to make a change. After following a young man with a 10 year journey and no one able to find what was causing his symptoms he switched to functional medicine. So I had nothing to lose and I switched to a functional medicine doctor who tested me thoroughly for causes, looked at all my vitamin and mineral levels, thyroid function, etc. In addition to SIBO, I had SIFO, an overgrowth of clostridia which is a bacteria, mold exposure, low in B2, low in zinc. I was put on a prebiotic and probiotic to build up the good bacteria in the gut (all antibiotics kill the bad but the good too), a number of natural remedies that require the doctor's recommendation from specific companies, worked with her nutritionist to eliminate what I shouldn't be eating and include some things I should - Kefir and other fermented foods (pickles, sauerkraut, kombucha, yogurts that contain active cultures - I eat only sheep's milk for easier digestion). As well buy only organic fruits and vegetables as much as you can afford. Low Fodmap is too one size fits all - so I ate the foods that agreed with me even if they were on the list as the nutritionist suggested. My functional medicine doctor is in California and only treats patients in the state. But you can seek one out at ifm.org by city and state. Each has a bio and their specialties.
My doctor also recommended infrared sauna and epsom salt baths that help eliminate toxins.
Best to you. I know it's not an easy path.

Thank you for your response. I will check out ifm.org. I can't stand fermented foods. I don't know how anyone gets those down. I have an added complication of reactive hypoglycemia, so yes, a lot of the low fodmap recommended foods do not work for me. I can't eat any type of potato without my blood sugar spiking to 300 then crashing to 40, which leaves me needing to drink juice or eat something sweet to keep from going too low and having a seizure or worse. It's so difficult to find foods I can tolerate medically, but will also eat. I've always had a very limited food list, as I just don't like anything with a bitter taste at all, nor do I eat any seafood. It's a real struggle. Sometimes I just have to choke something down, and sometimes it's just easier to drink an easily digested protein shake. We live in such a rural area there are no functional medicine doctors, so I will have to travel to St. Louis or Chicago most likely. I don't mind if I can get some help. I've been looking into infrared sauna, and I do a lot of epsom salt baths as well just because they make me feel better! I'm glad to know those are of benefit. I don't think they have tested B2, but I am B3 (Niacin) deficient, as well as Zinc. I take a liquid zinc and selenium supplement and a B complex melt tab to help with those. I was hoping there was some kind of recommended SIBO herbal capsule with the necessary herbal compounds in one or two pills someone could recommend that may help. Just doing antibiotics and low fodmap isn't cutting it. I will definitely seek out a functional medicine doc.

"SIBO comes back because the drugs are treating the symptoms and not the CAUSE." So true. I tested positive for SIBO ("Your result is off the chart!"), shelled out $2,000 for the Xifaxin and it didn't do a thing. So discouraging. And absolutely no dietary attempt works; what seems to cause my flatulence is swallowing *anything.* (Yes, I had both many endoscopies and colonoscopies always with normal results; except I was told my intestinal tract is two feet longer than normal.) I've given up any hope of a social life other than not eating for 24 hours before any social activity.

I had SIBO few years ago, diagnose via endoscopy fluid sample. I was treated with three different antibodies over long period. Take one antibody for week, 3 weeks off, take another for week, then 3 weeks off, etc... Took long time to treat, but worked.

Laurie

Hi Laurie, You were treated with antibodies? Please clarify or did you mean antibiotics?

I truly believe there is someone that can help you. Something is being missed to test for. I know it’s not easy. But don’t give up. You deserve to feel good.
Have you been tested for mold toxicity, parasites, yeast infections or fungal infections? If not, find a doctor that will test you for these. All of these can affect our gut and digestion.
If I didn’t mention this book, it’s worth the read - “Super Gut” by Dr. William Davis, available on amazon.