If you google cold laser therapy, and scroll there is a review of devices, including the strength of the laser per unit. Rehabmart. I would research the strength of the laser, and if it has a timer, to protect your skin. Also, note how it is used clinically aka read the directions. I would buy it from a medical device sales company. I have done CLT and the treatment worked wonders over 4 weeks 2x per week. So, know that to use this device too often and too long could backfire, figuratively and literally.
Mine is sent by and from the VA. Fortunately it is going to be similar to the one my physical therapist uses now. My therapist is a great source of information as well. How and exactly where you put the pads is also a factor. It runs about 40/60 to 50/50 on people actually having results that make a difference so before investing a chunk of money as the better systems can be expensive I would at least try to get 8 to 10 treatments done before deciding on getting one
So in keeping you in the knowledge flow the best I can I have now had 6 sessions of using the infrared system specifically on my feet and a free standing red light on my hands. On December 8th I will sit down with the head of my therapy group as to my personal results with the use of the infrared system so that they can recommend to the VA to invest and buy me my own kit.
If I was to be asked today I have definitely had positive results with the use of this system. Right now because it's a private therapy company I recieve treatments 3 days a week M,W,F and I have a difference for a couple of hours each time I receive my treatment. Now what I have been educated on is that with my own system I will be allowed to do 2 twenty minuet sessions a day. Now that's 20minuets on each specific area as example 1st 20 minutes will be my Achilles and heel area...I can then move to the top of my foot and toes for 20 then rotate it 180° for 20 more minuets ect ect.
Now I am experiencing some other medical issues as I was before I started this treatment I had back surgery on L-3,4 and 5 area and my Dr did a magnificent job as I had a cyst inside my spinal cord that was also creating nerve issues and the VA was conflating the two and I was getting no relief from either treatments until the back surgery. Having just completed new X-Rays and MRI's I sent those to the same back Dr and these issues are in my C and T areas that I am now having pains in my hands and arms and it is possible the bulging disc and bone spurs that I have currently could be the cause or could be in addition to. So I will be having a conference call with him soon to see what plan of action surgery wise to clean up the spurs and such so that then after the fact what is left over will probably be the results of PN. The one thing I will tell you is be your own advocate research, research and research some more. I had 2 other groups that wanted to put in a SCS (spinal cord stimulator) that yes would have helped with pain but the source of my pain would have never been fixed as it is now. It's your body and money spend and do wisely. Check back in on the 8th and let you know the direction moving forward. God Bless all
Hello John, As you may know, I did the Scrambler treatment two months ago. It was successful, no pain now. There is however, continued numbness and loss of feeling between both feet. I am doing PT for it.
Radiant Pain relief centres is in the Portland Or. and Chicago. 503/379/0790.
I am going to try this foot doctors Laser Therapy This is what he say on his page :We are proud to be on the medical technological forefront by offering MLS Laser Therapy as a treatment for Neuropathy. This treatment uses wavelengths of light to treat painful and debilitating conditions. This treatment is given to our patients to help manage the pain from Neuropathy. MLS Laser Therapy helps Neuropathy by releasing endorphins that reduce pain, reduces swelling, increases blood flow and stimulates repair and regrowth of nerve tissue. It cost $650 for 13 treatments but he told me if I do not feel any relief after 2 or 3 treatments he will refund my money, so I figure what do I have to loose. I will let yall know how it goes. I am in so much pain I do not care how much it cost, He also put me on some Hormones plus supplements.
Thank you for the update. Hoping that the MLS Laser Therapy helps you and I'm glad they will refund your money if you get not relief after 2 or 3 treatments. Can you let us know how the treatment goes?
Hi @survivor102021, Unfortunately I’m not sure @mikween still follows Connect and I haven’t heard how the laser treatments worked for them. Hopefully others with experience can respond.
Hi @survivor102021, Unfortunately I’m not sure @mikween still follows Connect and I haven’t heard how the laser treatments worked for them. Hopefully others with experience can respond.
Hi, @johnbishop and @survivor102021,
My P.T. has been treating my peripheral neuropathy with laser for about 24 months. (I have had P.N. for about 20 years but it seemed to get much worse, also affecting my hands, after a very successful back surgery in Jan. of 2021 which decompressed and fused the L2 to the sacrum.) At the beginning she was using a laser device once a week on my feet and I remember that it eased the numbness and pain (yeah, weird together) for a few hours.
Then, she purchased a deep-tissue (she refers to it as "class 4") unit made by LifeForce and I was receiving treatments once a week on both hands and feet. It took about a year, but I have regained some feeling in my feet plus I have greater use of my hands. The downfall is that the stronger unit treatments are not covered by Medicare or evidently by the V.A., whereas the weaker treatments which did not offer much relief, were. I pay $420. for 12 treatments which include both feet and hands, and I do believe the results are worth the investment. I am now receiving the treatments once every 2 weeks. What I can't be sure of, though, is if 100% of the relief is coming from the laser, or if some or all of the other efforts (monthly chiro, weekly Bemer treatments from my P.T., prescriptions: Pregabalin, Tramadol, Ropinerol, or exercises are offering part of it. I suspect they all contribute in one way or another). I'm not free of pain, numbness, tingling, and coldness
in the extremities, and my balance is terrible, but at 76 I am able to live independently in my own home, drive, and truly enjoy life.
Hope this helps a little bit. Happy New Year!
Barb
Hi, @johnbishop and @survivor102021,
My P.T. has been treating my peripheral neuropathy with laser for about 24 months. (I have had P.N. for about 20 years but it seemed to get much worse, also affecting my hands, after a very successful back surgery in Jan. of 2021 which decompressed and fused the L2 to the sacrum.) At the beginning she was using a laser device once a week on my feet and I remember that it eased the numbness and pain (yeah, weird together) for a few hours.
Then, she purchased a deep-tissue (she refers to it as "class 4") unit made by LifeForce and I was receiving treatments once a week on both hands and feet. It took about a year, but I have regained some feeling in my feet plus I have greater use of my hands. The downfall is that the stronger unit treatments are not covered by Medicare or evidently by the V.A., whereas the weaker treatments which did not offer much relief, were. I pay $420. for 12 treatments which include both feet and hands, and I do believe the results are worth the investment. I am now receiving the treatments once every 2 weeks. What I can't be sure of, though, is if 100% of the relief is coming from the laser, or if some or all of the other efforts (monthly chiro, weekly Bemer treatments from my P.T., prescriptions: Pregabalin, Tramadol, Ropinerol, or exercises are offering part of it. I suspect they all contribute in one way or another). I'm not free of pain, numbness, tingling, and coldness
in the extremities, and my balance is terrible, but at 76 I am able to live independently in my own home, drive, and truly enjoy life.
Hope this helps a little bit. Happy New Year!
Barb
I have both Morton's Neuroma and neuropathy. The tops of my feet hurt almost as much as the bottoms. Unfortunately i am stuck in the failed VA health system. I also have a Bemer, but have not used it yet on my feet. Does anyone know the best method of applying the Bemer? Do I use the mat, strap, seat, or spot? I have them all.
Best topical creams or gels for pain reduction?
Thank you!
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Mine is sent by and from the VA. Fortunately it is going to be similar to the one my physical therapist uses now. My therapist is a great source of information as well. How and exactly where you put the pads is also a factor. It runs about 40/60 to 50/50 on people actually having results that make a difference so before investing a chunk of money as the better systems can be expensive I would at least try to get 8 to 10 treatments done before deciding on getting one
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1 ReactionSo in keeping you in the knowledge flow the best I can I have now had 6 sessions of using the infrared system specifically on my feet and a free standing red light on my hands. On December 8th I will sit down with the head of my therapy group as to my personal results with the use of the infrared system so that they can recommend to the VA to invest and buy me my own kit.
If I was to be asked today I have definitely had positive results with the use of this system. Right now because it's a private therapy company I recieve treatments 3 days a week M,W,F and I have a difference for a couple of hours each time I receive my treatment. Now what I have been educated on is that with my own system I will be allowed to do 2 twenty minuet sessions a day. Now that's 20minuets on each specific area as example 1st 20 minutes will be my Achilles and heel area...I can then move to the top of my foot and toes for 20 then rotate it 180° for 20 more minuets ect ect.
Now I am experiencing some other medical issues as I was before I started this treatment I had back surgery on L-3,4 and 5 area and my Dr did a magnificent job as I had a cyst inside my spinal cord that was also creating nerve issues and the VA was conflating the two and I was getting no relief from either treatments until the back surgery. Having just completed new X-Rays and MRI's I sent those to the same back Dr and these issues are in my C and T areas that I am now having pains in my hands and arms and it is possible the bulging disc and bone spurs that I have currently could be the cause or could be in addition to. So I will be having a conference call with him soon to see what plan of action surgery wise to clean up the spurs and such so that then after the fact what is left over will probably be the results of PN. The one thing I will tell you is be your own advocate research, research and research some more. I had 2 other groups that wanted to put in a SCS (spinal cord stimulator) that yes would have helped with pain but the source of my pain would have never been fixed as it is now. It's your body and money spend and do wisely. Check back in on the 8th and let you know the direction moving forward. God Bless all
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1 ReactionHello John, As you may know, I did the Scrambler treatment two months ago. It was successful, no pain now. There is however, continued numbness and loss of feeling between both feet. I am doing PT for it.
Radiant Pain relief centres is in the Portland Or. and Chicago. 503/379/0790.
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1 ReactionPlease try Senaxes treatment first. I did 34, 15 minute treatments and ALL my pain went away. Covered by my insurance as well.
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1 ReactionSix years later I see this post. Can you share how the laser treatments went?
Hi @survivor102021, Unfortunately I’m not sure @mikween still follows Connect and I haven’t heard how the laser treatments worked for them. Hopefully others with experience can respond.
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1 ReactionHi, @johnbishop and @survivor102021,
My P.T. has been treating my peripheral neuropathy with laser for about 24 months. (I have had P.N. for about 20 years but it seemed to get much worse, also affecting my hands, after a very successful back surgery in Jan. of 2021 which decompressed and fused the L2 to the sacrum.) At the beginning she was using a laser device once a week on my feet and I remember that it eased the numbness and pain (yeah, weird together) for a few hours.
Then, she purchased a deep-tissue (she refers to it as "class 4") unit made by LifeForce and I was receiving treatments once a week on both hands and feet. It took about a year, but I have regained some feeling in my feet plus I have greater use of my hands. The downfall is that the stronger unit treatments are not covered by Medicare or evidently by the V.A., whereas the weaker treatments which did not offer much relief, were. I pay $420. for 12 treatments which include both feet and hands, and I do believe the results are worth the investment. I am now receiving the treatments once every 2 weeks. What I can't be sure of, though, is if 100% of the relief is coming from the laser, or if some or all of the other efforts (monthly chiro, weekly Bemer treatments from my P.T., prescriptions: Pregabalin, Tramadol, Ropinerol, or exercises are offering part of it. I suspect they all contribute in one way or another). I'm not free of pain, numbness, tingling, and coldness
in the extremities, and my balance is terrible, but at 76 I am able to live independently in my own home, drive, and truly enjoy life.
Hope this helps a little bit. Happy New Year!
Barb
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4 ReactionsThank you so much for sharing the details of your experience. It is truly appreciated.
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1 ReactionI have both Morton's Neuroma and neuropathy. The tops of my feet hurt almost as much as the bottoms. Unfortunately i am stuck in the failed VA health system. I also have a Bemer, but have not used it yet on my feet. Does anyone know the best method of applying the Bemer? Do I use the mat, strap, seat, or spot? I have them all.
Best topical creams or gels for pain reduction?
Thank you!
I have extremely cold feet and ankles. I think from cancer therapy years ago. Has anyone tried laser therapy and found it helpful, or just fluff?