Should I cancel my TKR surgery?

Posted by bonnk @bonnk, Dec 21, 2023

I am 78 years old. I am bone on bone in left knee but I can walk fine..just can't do steps, curbs without handrail or someone holding my hand. I know I have lost muscle mass after the pandemic. If I worked with a trainer and got my core up to par, maybe I could cancel the surgery. Anyone ever do that?

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@ddsack

My impression is that once you have lost cartilage and are bone on bone, exercise to improve muscle strength will not help with pain because you can't replace the cartilage (barring some newer experimental techniques.)

However, it can help to lose 10-20 or more pounds if you are overweight, because then you have less compression pain on the knee which could be enough relief to go a few extra years without surgery.

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Good advice. No one wants to deal with weight loss (and not everyone needs to) but it can only help. It is not a permanent solution.

As you note, bone-on-bone does not go away. There are no miracle injections to give you lasting relief and the menisci and articular cartilage will not grow back. A TKR, done by a qualified surgeon with a solid pedigree and happy patients, is likely the best answer.

I'm a 69 y/o male and in my case, the TKRs have been life changing. By all means do exercise to the extent your knees allow before the surgery, and then do everything you're told to do as far as PT. Most of these cases turn out very well. The surgeon has his or her part, but the patient does the most work for a successful outcome.

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@cathyanne

Oh please don't! If you are bone on bone, it will never get better. I worked for a year in PT to see if I could improve and it only got worse. You will not regret the surgery after you heal.

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Thanks for your input. I am going forward with the surgery plus have scheduled to work with a knowledgeable trainer to improve my strength. I have a few weeks to get started before the surgery than will continue with Tony a few months after surgery,

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@heyjoe415

Good advice. No one wants to deal with weight loss (and not everyone needs to) but it can only help. It is not a permanent solution.

As you note, bone-on-bone does not go away. There are no miracle injections to give you lasting relief and the menisci and articular cartilage will not grow back. A TKR, done by a qualified surgeon with a solid pedigree and happy patients, is likely the best answer.

I'm a 69 y/o male and in my case, the TKRs have been life changing. By all means do exercise to the extent your knees allow before the surgery, and then do everything you're told to do as far as PT. Most of these cases turn out very well. The surgeon has his or her part, but the patient does the most work for a successful outcome.

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Good advice. Thank you. I will go through the surgery. January promises to be a long month. Never liked January all that much anyhow.

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@bonnk

Thanks for your input. I am going forward with the surgery plus have scheduled to work with a knowledgeable trainer to improve my strength. I have a few weeks to get started before the surgery than will continue with Tony a few months after surgery,

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So proud of you. And with a PT named Tony, how could you go wrong! Wishing you all the best. Work HARD before your surgery and you will heal so much faster. Take all your meds post surgery as scheduled so you don't chase the pain. And be sure to have peri-colace and prunes. Seriously. I lost my appetite for about two weeks after surgery. Comfort food was the best. Chicken noodle soup, mashed potatoes and cottage cheese and lemon popsicles. Yogurt in the middle of the night when I had to take my meds so they weren't on an empty stomach. Or a slice of panettone. Merry Christmas 🙂

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"Can't do steps and curbs" greatly limits your mobility. In your situation, I would look at every option to regain your mobility.

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@moeymoey

I was scheduled for TKR 2 years ago...canceled because the anesthesiologist didn't like my EKG which, I'm guessing, they never looked at until 14 hours prior to my surgery. To say I was PO'd would put it mildly. Fast forward almost 2 years, both my knees are bone on bone now but I decided to finally see the Cardiologist and he said their canceling the surgery was BS. So, for the past 2 months I've been doing PT and acupuncture several times a week. It's not going to grow cartilage but I have managed to reduce my NSAIDS
to almost none. I believe there are alternatives to TKR so will continue to wait for them to be approved by Medicare. For today, I'm happy with a
wait and see approach and use a cane sometimes and I'm 75. Good luck!

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I understand how hard the decision is, I had both knees done, one is fine the other not so much. In fact I curse the day I had it done. It’s been 5 1/2 yrs and the pain I am in is a thousand times worse than the bone on bone I was living with. I am told it’s some sort of nerve pain that can come from any surgery, in other words they don’t know. Your decision isn’t easy and I know I am probably 1 in a million but don’t let anyone tell you it’s no big deal of a surgery. Best of luck and I pray you find your answer

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@sprinrosa64

I understand how hard the decision is, I had both knees done, one is fine the other not so much. In fact I curse the day I had it done. It’s been 5 1/2 yrs and the pain I am in is a thousand times worse than the bone on bone I was living with. I am told it’s some sort of nerve pain that can come from any surgery, in other words they don’t know. Your decision isn’t easy and I know I am probably 1 in a million but don’t let anyone tell you it’s no big deal of a surgery. Best of luck and I pray you find your answer

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That is what I am afraid of. Doctors do the best they can but they know only so much. How awful to have gone through the surgery and then have more pain than before. I have decided to take a leap of faith and go ahead with the surgery. I am going to work with a top-notch trainer before my surgery (3 weeks) and then in a few months resume training. Since the pandemic, I stopped doing so many things. It's unbelievable how quickly one can lose muscle mass. I wish you miraculous healing. Have a Merry Christmas from Delaware.

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@cathyanne

So proud of you. And with a PT named Tony, how could you go wrong! Wishing you all the best. Work HARD before your surgery and you will heal so much faster. Take all your meds post surgery as scheduled so you don't chase the pain. And be sure to have peri-colace and prunes. Seriously. I lost my appetite for about two weeks after surgery. Comfort food was the best. Chicken noodle soup, mashed potatoes and cottage cheese and lemon popsicles. Yogurt in the middle of the night when I had to take my meds so they weren't on an empty stomach. Or a slice of panettone. Merry Christmas 🙂

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Thanks for reminding me about prunes! I will be better off losing my appetite for awhile. My got-to food for when that happens is egg custard. Chicken soup is always good..for the body and the soul. And yes to orange popsicles. I wish you many blessings for the coming New Year.

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@sprinrosa64

I understand how hard the decision is, I had both knees done, one is fine the other not so much. In fact I curse the day I had it done. It’s been 5 1/2 yrs and the pain I am in is a thousand times worse than the bone on bone I was living with. I am told it’s some sort of nerve pain that can come from any surgery, in other words they don’t know. Your decision isn’t easy and I know I am probably 1 in a million but don’t let anyone tell you it’s no big deal of a surgery. Best of luck and I pray you find your answer

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Thank you. For today I'll keep on living with the two knees I have. I do truly believe someone soon will find a much better alternative to TKR. Otherwise, if the pain becomes unmanageable, I can proceed from that point. Peace...

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@bonnk

Thanks for reminding me about prunes! I will be better off losing my appetite for awhile. My got-to food for when that happens is egg custard. Chicken soup is always good..for the body and the soul. And yes to orange popsicles. I wish you many blessings for the coming New Year.

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OH wow - egg custard. That sounds great. I am going to make a pot of chicken soup right before my next surgery on 1/10. My husband had picked up a container of Costco Rotisserie Chicken soup and it had so much thyme in it we had to toss it. Homemade Polish Chicken Soup is always the best. Many blessings to you as well. Keep us posted on your surgery.

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