I believe the symptoms of Piriformis syndrome and back problems are quite different. My symptoms right now are clearly Piriformis symptom. I have no back pain. My pain is in my butt, down the thigh and leg to my ankle. I can't sit or walk without pretty bad pain. I just had a steroid injection 2-days ago into the Piriformis muscle ---- I got no relief at all. This is the 2nd steroid injection I've had in less than one month. I'm not going to have any more. They don't work for me and I'm not going to waste my time getting any more injections. I need a new MRI (Pelvic MRI) to firmly diagnose Piriformis syndrome and my physician needs to come up with a treatment plan that works or refer me to another physician who can help me with this pain which I believe is a combination of Sciatica and Piriformis syndrome.
First of all, I am unclear what my diagnosis is. The specialists gloss over this. I have some kind of problem at the L5. I have had a total of 6 injections. The last three were specifically piriformis injections. As far as I can tell, they don't help much. I have been disappointed each time. That said, I don't know if things could be worse without them. I am at the point where I think back surgery may be the solution.
Hi... I have run the gamut of every injection, epidurals, epidurals again, nerve blocks and more...the only time I felt relief was the day of when I was numb, I a not familiar with this piriformis muscle.. have you had the MRI does it show your spinal condition.. With me It all started during and after 18 months of intensive chemotherapy that every 8 hour day went straight to my bones,, heating pads all over were my only relief. Mind you , I had scoliosis all these years that was ignored as I had perfect posture, but then the scoliosis started moving and rotating my spine...Then I developed everything with an S.,, Stenosis, Spondylosis, spondy whatever, , I just had an abd. ultrasound and she couldn't find my spleen..all of myy organs have shifted to the right and none are where they are supposed to be,,, WTH!! and no one seems to think this is an issue,. Last year I started getting sciatica attacks that were so horrific, bulging of my spine, My spine is visible through any top that lays on it,,crooked and boney,, Several orthos wanted to do the whole package with poles to straighten my spine, basketsm nuts bolts,, 12 hour surgeries,, money for them and lots of it, hell for me,,, I run my own businesses I can not take off or close the doors,,, I saw the only Neuro surgeon here,,, i have had 8 surgery in the past less than 9 years due to cancer,, I am tired but the pain became too much, I could no longer walk on a street or stand at my shop with out extreme pain and no quality of life...nor does my dog as I cant walk her but I do 2 hours a night on my treadmill... Last October I had this Dr do what ever was the least invasive to get me out of pain,,. it was a l345 laminectomy plus baseball size arthritis on and around my spine,., aside from the surgical pain which I had one intense day at the hospital I was out grocery shopping by day 6..not lifting or driving.., I had pt at home which I did great it wasnt easy but I wanted it... I also got back on my treadmill that same weekend just slow walking,.... Sometimes being alone with no one around to help There are things I have to do .. sweeping is a trigger,,, avoid it!! vacuum instead,,, I started getting deliveries and I would tip , still do , to have them put the heavy stuff on shelves so I dont have to ,,I do a lot of ebay business and if an item a=has to be packed I do it,,, sometimes 30-40 lbs and I know I am hurting myself,, I bought a rowing machine, per Drs permission,, I think that did a number on me as about 5 months ago that sciatica attack on my right thigh and cheek was back 10 fold and so was the extreme,,, pain,.. New MRI,,,,Now all disks L1 to S! are all herniated m bulging , more arthritis,, Iwas going to jump right into surgery 2 weeks ago after my DR said we will have to keep going up????? I gave it great thought,, I cant close before xmas .. So I sched, an appt with him this time and I think its best I listen and ask questions,,,, In the meantime my Pain has been somewhat manageable... I stopped wearing any real heels as much as I kove them and upped my sketchers wardrobe.... I get very intense medical massages... 90 min of holding my breath as she digs into those knots.and she will break them up... No real heavy sciatica.. I need to start stretching before the treadmill.. The test will be can I walk in a grocery store without extreme pain after 2min,,,,,If I can avoid surgery for awhile i will. The reality is with scoliosis as it keeps moving what do I do when it starts to press into my only lung as well as my stomach and intestines ,which are already a mess from the kung cancer mets to the colon,,,, No DR talks about this..., I research everything.. And my neuro Dr, is a =n amazing DR and man ... he has been very helpful to me and my family,,, I have a list for him,.. I encourage everyone to do as much research as you can about your condition and make a list of questions for your DR... For me and others I know ,, bad backs do not respond to basic injections,, Best wishes all!!
Hi... I have run the gamut of every injection, epidurals, epidurals again, nerve blocks and more...the only time I felt relief was the day of when I was numb, I a not familiar with this piriformis muscle.. have you had the MRI does it show your spinal condition.. With me It all started during and after 18 months of intensive chemotherapy that every 8 hour day went straight to my bones,, heating pads all over were my only relief. Mind you , I had scoliosis all these years that was ignored as I had perfect posture, but then the scoliosis started moving and rotating my spine...Then I developed everything with an S.,, Stenosis, Spondylosis, spondy whatever, , I just had an abd. ultrasound and she couldn't find my spleen..all of myy organs have shifted to the right and none are where they are supposed to be,,, WTH!! and no one seems to think this is an issue,. Last year I started getting sciatica attacks that were so horrific, bulging of my spine, My spine is visible through any top that lays on it,,crooked and boney,, Several orthos wanted to do the whole package with poles to straighten my spine, basketsm nuts bolts,, 12 hour surgeries,, money for them and lots of it, hell for me,,, I run my own businesses I can not take off or close the doors,,, I saw the only Neuro surgeon here,,, i have had 8 surgery in the past less than 9 years due to cancer,, I am tired but the pain became too much, I could no longer walk on a street or stand at my shop with out extreme pain and no quality of life...nor does my dog as I cant walk her but I do 2 hours a night on my treadmill... Last October I had this Dr do what ever was the least invasive to get me out of pain,,. it was a l345 laminectomy plus baseball size arthritis on and around my spine,., aside from the surgical pain which I had one intense day at the hospital I was out grocery shopping by day 6..not lifting or driving.., I had pt at home which I did great it wasnt easy but I wanted it... I also got back on my treadmill that same weekend just slow walking,.... Sometimes being alone with no one around to help There are things I have to do .. sweeping is a trigger,,, avoid it!! vacuum instead,,, I started getting deliveries and I would tip , still do , to have them put the heavy stuff on shelves so I dont have to ,,I do a lot of ebay business and if an item a=has to be packed I do it,,, sometimes 30-40 lbs and I know I am hurting myself,, I bought a rowing machine, per Drs permission,, I think that did a number on me as about 5 months ago that sciatica attack on my right thigh and cheek was back 10 fold and so was the extreme,,, pain,.. New MRI,,,,Now all disks L1 to S! are all herniated m bulging , more arthritis,, Iwas going to jump right into surgery 2 weeks ago after my DR said we will have to keep going up????? I gave it great thought,, I cant close before xmas .. So I sched, an appt with him this time and I think its best I listen and ask questions,,,, In the meantime my Pain has been somewhat manageable... I stopped wearing any real heels as much as I kove them and upped my sketchers wardrobe.... I get very intense medical massages... 90 min of holding my breath as she digs into those knots.and she will break them up... No real heavy sciatica.. I need to start stretching before the treadmill.. The test will be can I walk in a grocery store without extreme pain after 2min,,,,,If I can avoid surgery for awhile i will. The reality is with scoliosis as it keeps moving what do I do when it starts to press into my only lung as well as my stomach and intestines ,which are already a mess from the kung cancer mets to the colon,,,, No DR talks about this..., I research everything.. And my neuro Dr, is a =n amazing DR and man ... he has been very helpful to me and my family,,, I have a list for him,.. I encourage everyone to do as much research as you can about your condition and make a list of questions for your DR... For me and others I know ,, bad backs do not respond to basic injections,, Best wishes all!!
Jacqueline, you have so much going on. It's challenging to manage all that and a business. I have similar challenges and similar back problems including spondy-something, yes. I am putting off surgery as long as I can. My primary recommended getting a second surgical opinion, I think she thinks I need this for my peace of mind. She's right and I will do it to be thorough. I gave injections a fair "shot;" but that's enough. Thank you for your thorough comment. I hope we all get our pain under control.
I was diagnosed with Piriformis syndrome at Cleveland Clinic. It only got worse. Turns out the diagnosis was wrong. It was actually a disc in my L5-S1 and I ended up in the ER with Cauda Equina syndrome!
I had numbness in both legs when walking in hard surfaces. MRI abs CT scans showed sever spinal stenosis of L3,4,5. Before surgery I felt numbness on the right saddle side and I really felt it was progressing to Cauda
Equine. Surgery has been difficult but I am now three weeks out and recovering. Was the onset of cauda Equine sudden or more gradual? What is your recovery like? What was the actual surgery called?
Hi... I have run the gamut of every injection, epidurals, epidurals again, nerve blocks and more...the only time I felt relief was the day of when I was numb, I a not familiar with this piriformis muscle.. have you had the MRI does it show your spinal condition.. With me It all started during and after 18 months of intensive chemotherapy that every 8 hour day went straight to my bones,, heating pads all over were my only relief. Mind you , I had scoliosis all these years that was ignored as I had perfect posture, but then the scoliosis started moving and rotating my spine...Then I developed everything with an S.,, Stenosis, Spondylosis, spondy whatever, , I just had an abd. ultrasound and she couldn't find my spleen..all of myy organs have shifted to the right and none are where they are supposed to be,,, WTH!! and no one seems to think this is an issue,. Last year I started getting sciatica attacks that were so horrific, bulging of my spine, My spine is visible through any top that lays on it,,crooked and boney,, Several orthos wanted to do the whole package with poles to straighten my spine, basketsm nuts bolts,, 12 hour surgeries,, money for them and lots of it, hell for me,,, I run my own businesses I can not take off or close the doors,,, I saw the only Neuro surgeon here,,, i have had 8 surgery in the past less than 9 years due to cancer,, I am tired but the pain became too much, I could no longer walk on a street or stand at my shop with out extreme pain and no quality of life...nor does my dog as I cant walk her but I do 2 hours a night on my treadmill... Last October I had this Dr do what ever was the least invasive to get me out of pain,,. it was a l345 laminectomy plus baseball size arthritis on and around my spine,., aside from the surgical pain which I had one intense day at the hospital I was out grocery shopping by day 6..not lifting or driving.., I had pt at home which I did great it wasnt easy but I wanted it... I also got back on my treadmill that same weekend just slow walking,.... Sometimes being alone with no one around to help There are things I have to do .. sweeping is a trigger,,, avoid it!! vacuum instead,,, I started getting deliveries and I would tip , still do , to have them put the heavy stuff on shelves so I dont have to ,,I do a lot of ebay business and if an item a=has to be packed I do it,,, sometimes 30-40 lbs and I know I am hurting myself,, I bought a rowing machine, per Drs permission,, I think that did a number on me as about 5 months ago that sciatica attack on my right thigh and cheek was back 10 fold and so was the extreme,,, pain,.. New MRI,,,,Now all disks L1 to S! are all herniated m bulging , more arthritis,, Iwas going to jump right into surgery 2 weeks ago after my DR said we will have to keep going up????? I gave it great thought,, I cant close before xmas .. So I sched, an appt with him this time and I think its best I listen and ask questions,,,, In the meantime my Pain has been somewhat manageable... I stopped wearing any real heels as much as I kove them and upped my sketchers wardrobe.... I get very intense medical massages... 90 min of holding my breath as she digs into those knots.and she will break them up... No real heavy sciatica.. I need to start stretching before the treadmill.. The test will be can I walk in a grocery store without extreme pain after 2min,,,,,If I can avoid surgery for awhile i will. The reality is with scoliosis as it keeps moving what do I do when it starts to press into my only lung as well as my stomach and intestines ,which are already a mess from the kung cancer mets to the colon,,,, No DR talks about this..., I research everything.. And my neuro Dr, is a =n amazing DR and man ... he has been very helpful to me and my family,,, I have a list for him,.. I encourage everyone to do as much research as you can about your condition and make a list of questions for your DR... For me and others I know ,, bad backs do not respond to basic injections,, Best wishes all!!
Have had severe sciatica. Wondering why treadmill doesn’t bother you as you mentioned two hours on it? Yet regular surfaces to walk on do bother you? Do you think it’s got anything to do with uneven surfaces? Or is one leg shorter or?
Hi.. I used to walk miles endlessly without a problem. Now even walking in a store if I don;t hold onto a basket, I don't get very far without pain. No one has answered as to why, but my guess is that the treadmill is cushioned and allows for less impact than the hard surface of a road, trail or concrete.?? I have had sciatica act up on the treadmill but am able to walk it through. It has never been as bad as a street so I thank goodness for that, To me 2 hours is not that absurd, to others yes it is, I think for me its a mental thing. You do what you can to keep going, Good luck to you!
I believe the symptoms of Piriformis syndrome and back problems are quite different. My symptoms right now are clearly Piriformis symptom. I have no back pain. My pain is in my butt, down the thigh and leg to my ankle. I can't sit or walk without pretty bad pain. I just had a steroid injection 2-days ago into the Piriformis muscle ---- I got no relief at all. This is the 2nd steroid injection I've had in less than one month. I'm not going to have any more. They don't work for me and I'm not going to waste my time getting any more injections. I need a new MRI (Pelvic MRI) to firmly diagnose Piriformis syndrome and my physician needs to come up with a treatment plan that works or refer me to another physician who can help me with this pain which I believe is a combination of Sciatica and Piriformis syndrome.
Yes the sciatic nerve runs through the Piriformis muscles on both sides in hip/groin area. It is when it gets pinched or otherwise caught up somehow that causes the pain. I was in the hospital 2 days treated with pain meds. Dilauded to be exact. It was awful. I cried so much my eyes were swollen. The pain was like that of labor pains in that you could could feel it creeping up and starting and getting worse and then peak and then go away. They were occurring about every 10 minutes. I had ice packs on my thighs. The weird thing is, it was only from my hips to my knees. I guess the bed rest is what helped the most. This was last December and I've not had anything since. I'm retired hairstylist though so I'm not standing all day anymore.
Thanks for all this Sue. I have done massive extensive research on piriformis syndrome. I can’t walk; in a wheelchair and sleep in a recliner. I’ve been through PT and then was told that was the worse thing I could have done; the piriformis should not be stretched; it just causes more pain, PT never relieved me of any pain, I’ve also done numerous injections; none of which helped the pain for more than 2 days. That’s what the piriformis syndrome is, but in reverse of how you stated; the sciatica nerve actually presses on the piriformis muscle. The doctor did show me the X-ray and the MRI and it’s not that I don’t agree that I could have a bad hip, but no one is looking or has the ability (right equipment-which is “diagnostic ultrasound”) to focus on what I need to know. I’m on a FB forum for piriformis syndrome and have gained a lot of knowledge about this muscle from that page. There are only 5/6 doctors in the US that have experience in removing it, and they don’t take my insurance. If a “release” is needed, I think Mayo may do that which is what I’m trying to find out. Yes I’ve been to 2 ortho’s. I’m not a bit reluctant to undergo surgery again, I just want it to be 100% the right surgery.
I was using UMARY supplement . One pill would last me six weeks. The FDA took it of the market because it had too many side effects & it had 2 ingredients they didn't like. What pill doesn't have side effects? PT made mine worse. I'm panicking when I run out of Umary. The Government is selling it for $250. 00 for 2 bottles. Not right.
Editor's Note: Please note: Umary is not for sale by the US government. It contains diclofenac and omeprazole, which are not listed on the product label and can cause serious side effects and/or adverse medication interactions.
From the FDA [6-14-2024]
"The Food and Drug Administration is advising consumers not to purchase or use Umary, a product promoted and sold for pain on various websites and possibly in some retail stores.
FDA laboratory analysis confirmed that Umary contains diclofenac and omeprazole, which are not listed on the product label."
I believe the symptoms of Piriformis syndrome and back problems are quite different. My symptoms right now are clearly Piriformis symptom. I have no back pain. My pain is in my butt, down the thigh and leg to my ankle. I can't sit or walk without pretty bad pain. I just had a steroid injection 2-days ago into the Piriformis muscle ---- I got no relief at all. This is the 2nd steroid injection I've had in less than one month. I'm not going to have any more. They don't work for me and I'm not going to waste my time getting any more injections. I need a new MRI (Pelvic MRI) to firmly diagnose Piriformis syndrome and my physician needs to come up with a treatment plan that works or refer me to another physician who can help me with this pain which I believe is a combination of Sciatica and Piriformis syndrome.
Hi... I have run the gamut of every injection, epidurals, epidurals again, nerve blocks and more...the only time I felt relief was the day of when I was numb, I a not familiar with this piriformis muscle.. have you had the MRI does it show your spinal condition.. With me It all started during and after 18 months of intensive chemotherapy that every 8 hour day went straight to my bones,, heating pads all over were my only relief. Mind you , I had scoliosis all these years that was ignored as I had perfect posture, but then the scoliosis started moving and rotating my spine...Then I developed everything with an S.,, Stenosis, Spondylosis, spondy whatever, , I just had an abd. ultrasound and she couldn't find my spleen..all of myy organs have shifted to the right and none are where they are supposed to be,,, WTH!! and no one seems to think this is an issue,. Last year I started getting sciatica attacks that were so horrific, bulging of my spine, My spine is visible through any top that lays on it,,crooked and boney,, Several orthos wanted to do the whole package with poles to straighten my spine, basketsm nuts bolts,, 12 hour surgeries,, money for them and lots of it, hell for me,,, I run my own businesses I can not take off or close the doors,,, I saw the only Neuro surgeon here,,, i have had 8 surgery in the past less than 9 years due to cancer,, I am tired but the pain became too much, I could no longer walk on a street or stand at my shop with out extreme pain and no quality of life...nor does my dog as I cant walk her but I do 2 hours a night on my treadmill... Last October I had this Dr do what ever was the least invasive to get me out of pain,,. it was a l345 laminectomy plus baseball size arthritis on and around my spine,., aside from the surgical pain which I had one intense day at the hospital I was out grocery shopping by day 6..not lifting or driving.., I had pt at home which I did great it wasnt easy but I wanted it... I also got back on my treadmill that same weekend just slow walking,.... Sometimes being alone with no one around to help There are things I have to do .. sweeping is a trigger,,, avoid it!! vacuum instead,,, I started getting deliveries and I would tip , still do , to have them put the heavy stuff on shelves so I dont have to ,,I do a lot of ebay business and if an item a=has to be packed I do it,,, sometimes 30-40 lbs and I know I am hurting myself,, I bought a rowing machine, per Drs permission,, I think that did a number on me as about 5 months ago that sciatica attack on my right thigh and cheek was back 10 fold and so was the extreme,,, pain,.. New MRI,,,,Now all disks L1 to S! are all herniated m bulging , more arthritis,, Iwas going to jump right into surgery 2 weeks ago after my DR said we will have to keep going up????? I gave it great thought,, I cant close before xmas .. So I sched, an appt with him this time and I think its best I listen and ask questions,,,, In the meantime my Pain has been somewhat manageable... I stopped wearing any real heels as much as I kove them and upped my sketchers wardrobe.... I get very intense medical massages... 90 min of holding my breath as she digs into those knots.and she will break them up... No real heavy sciatica.. I need to start stretching before the treadmill.. The test will be can I walk in a grocery store without extreme pain after 2min,,,,,If I can avoid surgery for awhile i will. The reality is with scoliosis as it keeps moving what do I do when it starts to press into my only lung as well as my stomach and intestines ,which are already a mess from the kung cancer mets to the colon,,,, No DR talks about this..., I research everything.. And my neuro Dr, is a =n amazing DR and man ... he has been very helpful to me and my family,,, I have a list for him,.. I encourage everyone to do as much research as you can about your condition and make a list of questions for your DR... For me and others I know ,, bad backs do not respond to basic injections,, Best wishes all!!
Jacqueline, you have so much going on. It's challenging to manage all that and a business. I have similar challenges and similar back problems including spondy-something, yes. I am putting off surgery as long as I can. My primary recommended getting a second surgical opinion, I think she thinks I need this for my peace of mind. She's right and I will do it to be thorough. I gave injections a fair "shot;" but that's enough. Thank you for your thorough comment. I hope we all get our pain under control.
I had numbness in both legs when walking in hard surfaces. MRI abs CT scans showed sever spinal stenosis of L3,4,5. Before surgery I felt numbness on the right saddle side and I really felt it was progressing to Cauda
Equine. Surgery has been difficult but I am now three weeks out and recovering. Was the onset of cauda Equine sudden or more gradual? What is your recovery like? What was the actual surgery called?
Have had severe sciatica. Wondering why treadmill doesn’t bother you as you mentioned two hours on it? Yet regular surfaces to walk on do bother you? Do you think it’s got anything to do with uneven surfaces? Or is one leg shorter or?
Hi.. I used to walk miles endlessly without a problem. Now even walking in a store if I don;t hold onto a basket, I don't get very far without pain. No one has answered as to why, but my guess is that the treadmill is cushioned and allows for less impact than the hard surface of a road, trail or concrete.?? I have had sciatica act up on the treadmill but am able to walk it through. It has never been as bad as a street so I thank goodness for that, To me 2 hours is not that absurd, to others yes it is, I think for me its a mental thing. You do what you can to keep going, Good luck to you!
Yes the sciatic nerve runs through the Piriformis muscles on both sides in hip/groin area. It is when it gets pinched or otherwise caught up somehow that causes the pain. I was in the hospital 2 days treated with pain meds. Dilauded to be exact. It was awful. I cried so much my eyes were swollen. The pain was like that of labor pains in that you could could feel it creeping up and starting and getting worse and then peak and then go away. They were occurring about every 10 minutes. I had ice packs on my thighs. The weird thing is, it was only from my hips to my knees. I guess the bed rest is what helped the most. This was last December and I've not had anything since. I'm retired hairstylist though so I'm not standing all day anymore.
I was using UMARY supplement . One pill would last me six weeks. The FDA took it of the market because it had too many side effects & it had 2 ingredients they didn't like. What pill doesn't have side effects? PT made mine worse. I'm panicking when I run out of Umary. The Government is selling it for $250. 00 for 2 bottles. Not right.
Please note: Umary is not for sale by the US government. It contains diclofenac and omeprazole, which are not listed on the product label and can cause serious side effects and/or adverse medication interactions.
From the FDA [6-14-2024]
"The Food and Drug Administration is advising consumers not to purchase or use Umary, a product promoted and sold for pain on various websites and possibly in some retail stores.
FDA laboratory analysis confirmed that Umary contains diclofenac and omeprazole, which are not listed on the product label."
Read more here:
- Umary contains hidden drug ingredients https://www.fda.gov/drugs/medication-health-fraud/umary-contains-hidden-drug-ingredients