Stairs after TKR (1 side, 72 yrs old)

Posted by persia @persia, Nov 12, 2023

Hi. I am bone on bone, one spur, arthritis in one knee for yrs. Stairs are hard for me. Going up is easier than going down and can only do good leg down/bad leg up.
We are staying at a house that is raised up with parking, etc. underneath. (Post hurricane sandy construction).
13-14 exterior steps to entrance of house.
The place (a rental) has a full bath on the main floor with all bedrooms up a flight. We’re bringing a bed down to main floor for post-surgery.
Questions:
1. How painful/hard to climb the outside stairs when I leave the hospital?
2. Would it be better to extend hospital stay to 2-3 days?
3. How long before I should be able to navigate the outside stairs for rehab/walks/outings as a passenger?
4. How long before I can sleep upstairs in a bedroom (there’s a second bathroom upstairs)
Am anxious about pain/strength/getting around.
Thanks

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I had outpatient TKR at Mayo Florida on 11/15/23. I am 75 / female. I left the hospital the same day and was glad to be out. I live in a second floor flat. I could climb the 2 flights of stairs to my door using the hand rail and the " lead with good foot going up" "lead with the bad foot going down" mantra. Down is much harder. I keep a walker by my bed to use if I get up in the middle of the night. I have not been able to climb stairs with two feet in 18 months. This is my number one goal for my recovery. So far it is still too difficult at 4 weeks post opp. I have been told that establishing a normal gait is important. PT prefers that I not use a cane so I use it only when tired or going over uneven terrain. I believe more movement helps. I find sitting or lying down too long makes my pain worse. That said enough sleep is critical to recovery. I take Melatonin and I sleep comfortably for 8 hours per night. I am doing more than I thought I would be able to do. I am pushing myself a little bit but it makes me feel more confident with each step I accomplish. Everyone promises I will be happy I did this surgery 6 months from now. There is still a lot of pain and 6 months seems far away. Everyone is different. I hope you find some comfort in these posts and this community. I wish you a speedy recovery and a Happy Holiday.

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@cathyanne

Hello there! I am 68 and just had TKA 9/13/23. I was in the same situation as you. Here you go:
1. How painful/hard to climb the outside stairs when I leave the hospital? I was not able to do stairs for about a month. At first one step at a time - surgical knee first, then the other. I worked at the PT facility on stairs - they had rails on both sides. After about 2 months I could go down normally but VERY slowly and with some difficulty. Now at 3 months - I am not quite as slow but being very careful. At home I have a rail on the left side (going down) and I hang on!
2. Would it be better to extend hospital stay to 2-3 days? I was allowed to stay one night in the hospital and then was ready to go home. IF you start PT right away - the day of the surgery actually, you will be fine.
3. How long before I should be able to navigate the outside stairs for rehab/walks/outings as a passenger? Use a cane if there is not a rail. Take it easy and don't be in a hurry. I still can't go for a long walk - but it is VERY cold here so my knee gets stiff.
4. How long before I can sleep upstairs in a bedroom (there’s a second bathroom upstairs). I would wait until you are VERY comfortable. Do you have a partner that can watch out for you? I had to use my walker to get to the bathroom at night.

The other advice I can give you - TAKE YOUR MEDS AS SCHEDULED. Stay on top of the pain. After two weeks I was able to stop the oxycodone but took it faithfully. You won't get addicted, if you are careful. I still take one Advil and one Tylenol every afternoon to take the edge off the pain - but as I said it is very cold here (Northern Idaho). ALSO take the peri-colace and eat prunes.

I developed restless leg syndrome about 3 weeks after surgery. Taking ropinirole (.5 mg twice a day) and it is helping.

I completely lost my appetite. Have some comfort foods around - instant mashed potatoes, toast and cheese - that sort of thing. My husband made me steak twice and it tasted awful to me. Lemon popsicles were great.

I still ice every afternoon for a couple of hours - I have an ice machine so I can't get frostbite. It is so comforting. Elevate as much as you can. And sleep sleep sleep. Your body needs the rest to heal. Don't feel guilty!

All the best to you - the pain was a scary thing for me. I am scheduled for my second surgery and am not at all fearful this time. You will get through it and be so happy you did it. Wishing you a very Happy and Merry Christmas.

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Hi Cathy. It sounds like you're doing great. Just wanna clarify one thing. After a TKR and until healing is done, go upstairs by leading with the good knee, and downstairs by leading with the replaced knee (good up, bad down). In both cases, most of the stress is absorbed by the good, non-operated knee.

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@hvannort

I had outpatient TKR at Mayo Florida on 11/15/23. I am 75 / female. I left the hospital the same day and was glad to be out. I live in a second floor flat. I could climb the 2 flights of stairs to my door using the hand rail and the " lead with good foot going up" "lead with the bad foot going down" mantra. Down is much harder. I keep a walker by my bed to use if I get up in the middle of the night. I have not been able to climb stairs with two feet in 18 months. This is my number one goal for my recovery. So far it is still too difficult at 4 weeks post opp. I have been told that establishing a normal gait is important. PT prefers that I not use a cane so I use it only when tired or going over uneven terrain. I believe more movement helps. I find sitting or lying down too long makes my pain worse. That said enough sleep is critical to recovery. I take Melatonin and I sleep comfortably for 8 hours per night. I am doing more than I thought I would be able to do. I am pushing myself a little bit but it makes me feel more confident with each step I accomplish. Everyone promises I will be happy I did this surgery 6 months from now. There is still a lot of pain and 6 months seems far away. Everyone is different. I hope you find some comfort in these posts and this community. I wish you a speedy recovery and a Happy Holiday.

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I think you're doing great. Stairs are the last thing that can be done pain or stress free. So stairs are an inexact way to measure recovery progress. As for the cane, if you need it to prevent pain, well than I'd use it. Your Dr. is right though, and so are you, that motion is good for the replaced knee.

At the gym, I would pedal st very low resistance for 30 minutes 4 or 5 days a week. It wasn't physically hard, but the motion was good for my knee. As always, let pain be a guide.

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@heyjoe415

Hi Cathy. It sounds like you're doing great. Just wanna clarify one thing. After a TKR and until healing is done, go upstairs by leading with the good knee, and downstairs by leading with the replaced knee (good up, bad down). In both cases, most of the stress is absorbed by the good, non-operated knee.

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Correct! However, after a few weeks my PT wanted me to start going DOWN with alternating - they stayed with me to observe and made me go very slowly. Now my home exercises include two sets of up and down, alternating. HOWEVER holding on to the rail. OH MY while I type two bald eagles are fighting while flying over the Spokane River. I love living in Idaho!

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@hvannort

I had outpatient TKR at Mayo Florida on 11/15/23. I am 75 / female. I left the hospital the same day and was glad to be out. I live in a second floor flat. I could climb the 2 flights of stairs to my door using the hand rail and the " lead with good foot going up" "lead with the bad foot going down" mantra. Down is much harder. I keep a walker by my bed to use if I get up in the middle of the night. I have not been able to climb stairs with two feet in 18 months. This is my number one goal for my recovery. So far it is still too difficult at 4 weeks post opp. I have been told that establishing a normal gait is important. PT prefers that I not use a cane so I use it only when tired or going over uneven terrain. I believe more movement helps. I find sitting or lying down too long makes my pain worse. That said enough sleep is critical to recovery. I take Melatonin and I sleep comfortably for 8 hours per night. I am doing more than I thought I would be able to do. I am pushing myself a little bit but it makes me feel more confident with each step I accomplish. Everyone promises I will be happy I did this surgery 6 months from now. There is still a lot of pain and 6 months seems far away. Everyone is different. I hope you find some comfort in these posts and this community. I wish you a speedy recovery and a Happy Holiday.

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Hello and I am there with you! I am now 3 months post op. Still a little pain in the late afternoon, but I am doing my exercises at home EVERY day - 16 of them, and that might be causing that. I thought I would die of the pain 5 days after my surgery and got very depressed.
Hang in there - the pain WILL go lessen. My surgeon reminded me to look forward at my progress and not focus on my daily issues. I am a worrier and had so many questions. Sleep is VERY important - and I napped daily several times for about 4 weeks. Merry Christmas to you.

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@cathyanne

Hello and I am there with you! I am now 3 months post op. Still a little pain in the late afternoon, but I am doing my exercises at home EVERY day - 16 of them, and that might be causing that. I thought I would die of the pain 5 days after my surgery and got very depressed.
Hang in there - the pain WILL go lessen. My surgeon reminded me to look forward at my progress and not focus on my daily issues. I am a worrier and had so many questions. Sleep is VERY important - and I napped daily several times for about 4 weeks. Merry Christmas to you.

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I appreciate your reply. It is encouraging to know others are experiencing similar issues. I am not alone I this journey. Speedy recovery to you!

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@cathyanne

Hello and I am there with you! I am now 3 months post op. Still a little pain in the late afternoon, but I am doing my exercises at home EVERY day - 16 of them, and that might be causing that. I thought I would die of the pain 5 days after my surgery and got very depressed.
Hang in there - the pain WILL go lessen. My surgeon reminded me to look forward at my progress and not focus on my daily issues. I am a worrier and had so many questions. Sleep is VERY important - and I napped daily several times for about 4 weeks. Merry Christmas to you.

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Exactly what I experienced, I am 2 weeks post surgery and some exercises were killing me, but I did them anyway because my PT told me, “yes it’s a very hard time but the first two weeks are so important for the degree of bending your knee later”. A lot of patients just stop some exercises because it hurts so much. But they will never reach their goal and complain later when they can’t straighten their leg. These 2 weeks were challenging, so much pain, taking Oxicode was the only medication that helped but all the side effects brrrr….
Now I am nearly off of it, just a bit for the night and if needed and I am so happy to see light again at the end of the tunnel.
Long story short:
Do all! Your exercises you are told to do, even if you have to shout out, it’s worse it for the future. My staples come out today and I already walk with a cane, steps are no problems.

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@cathyanne

Correct! However, after a few weeks my PT wanted me to start going DOWN with alternating - they stayed with me to observe and made me go very slowly. Now my home exercises include two sets of up and down, alternating. HOWEVER holding on to the rail. OH MY while I type two bald eagles are fighting while flying over the Spokane River. I love living in Idaho!

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That's interesting Cathy. I can see why they'd have you alternate knees after two months, but not in the first weeks. I don't think it does any damage to do it earlier, it's just more painful.

But yeah, eventually we have to get used to walking down stairs using both legs. Sounds like you had a great recovery! Good for you and Idaho sounds beautiful! Enjoy life!

(I did visit Cour DeLaign - I know I'm mangling the spelling. We ate at a restaurant on the lake. Stunning!)

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@rainerhans

Exactly what I experienced, I am 2 weeks post surgery and some exercises were killing me, but I did them anyway because my PT told me, “yes it’s a very hard time but the first two weeks are so important for the degree of bending your knee later”. A lot of patients just stop some exercises because it hurts so much. But they will never reach their goal and complain later when they can’t straighten their leg. These 2 weeks were challenging, so much pain, taking Oxicode was the only medication that helped but all the side effects brrrr….
Now I am nearly off of it, just a bit for the night and if needed and I am so happy to see light again at the end of the tunnel.
Long story short:
Do all! Your exercises you are told to do, even if you have to shout out, it’s worse it for the future. My staples come out today and I already walk with a cane, steps are no problems.

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This is the best advice post on how to recover from a TKR that I've seen. Excellent advice Rainer. Thank you.

And to emphasize, the first two weeks are critical as far as PT. Yes it's very uncomfortable. Take pain meds an hour before exercising, (but do be careful with oxycodone). If you wait too long to do the PT,it won't help much.

As far as pain meds, the sooner you can get off oxycodone and on Tylenol the better.

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Sorry to say, I am still in a bit of pain in the Jan 2022 TKR knee. Plus, my right TKR2009 knee started hurting 1 1/2 years ago and still does, especially going up and down stairs. It hurts mostly along the bottom and outer side of the kneecap. Has anyone else had this occur? If so, did you discover the cause or fix?

I did PT for about six months after Jan 2022 TKR, but did not continue exercises at home. I do lots of walking and chores outside (live on a farm). I think some of the uncomfortable feeling I get going up and down stairs is my left hip, which I feel was damaged when using a cane for six months before the 2022 TKR due to the left AND right knee pain. Plus in June 2021, I broke both ankles, was in boots, had PT for a long time, was in a wheelchair, the walker, then cane for a while. My left hip hurts, I think because I could use my right leg to stand and pivot, etc. Have not been pain free for years now. I am only 72 and feel 92 a lot of the time! I would appreciate any advice anyone has about the right knee hurting after 13 years, especially. It has been x-rayed and the prosthetic is still perfect. Is it osteoarthritis? Inflammation? Any suggestions are appreciated. 🙂

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