NET symptoms despite follow-up lab work ok

Posted by pippa05 @pippa05, Jul 3, 2023

Has anyone experienced NET symptoms ie diarrhea, morning vomiting, nausea, headaches while lab work is all within normal range? I had net in ileum diagnosed 8/2021 which was removed by endoscopy. My lab work was fine and CT scan fine a week prior to finding NET. Every 6 mos my oncologist says "your lab work is fine" to which I reply "I wish I felt as good as my lab results" and his response is "see you in 6 mos." I had my one year endoscopy in 2022, which was fine and this year's is scheduled in Sept. I know I am lucky when I read what all of you are suffering thru. My company is allowing me to work from home because I am too sick to commute, I need immediate access to bathroom. I am not complaining, but I am curious as to whether or not anyone is experiencing the same thing? I take anti anxiety medicine because my anxiety has GI side effects, my primary doctor just increased the dosage. I've seen an assortment of doctors to determine if anything other than NET is going on, my nutrition is very good but symptoms are getting worse.
I keep all of you in my prayers, God bless.

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@terlato

I just want to give an update since I had Prenuvo Scan October 14. That scan found an brain aneurysm, a nodule on my left lung and 2 nodules on the head of my pancreas. These did not show up on any of my scans done this year. So I'm so thankful I went to LA to do this scan. All my doctors are NOW concerned that these nodules can be neuroendocrine since I've been suffering with all the symptoms for the past few years. I am seeing a Pulmonologist today and in January will be having an Endoscopic Ultrasound with possible biopsy of the pancreas. If I did not pursue this on my own, I don't know what would have happened in the future. Again, listen to your body and don't stop. If you don't get answers from one doctor continue to the next. None of my doctors were in favor for this Prenuvo scan, but now they are speechless! Wish me luck and will keep the updates.

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My husband has been having the same difficulty. We can’t get any physician to help us. We go for a Provo scan in January 2024. I’m hoping this will give us some more answers and try to get a doctor to support us. Did you show your scan to Your current doctors or are you going to a new one?

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@tinerobison

My husband has been having the same difficulty. We can’t get any physician to help us. We go for a Provo scan in January 2024. I’m hoping this will give us some more answers and try to get a doctor to support us. Did you show your scan to Your current doctors or are you going to a new one?

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^ Prenuvo

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@lindabees

Lab tests frequently tell you nothing with this disease. If you looked at my husbands labs at any point since he was diagnosed 15 years ago you could say is was in perfect health. Obviously, he’s not. As patients and caregivers we need to ensure that we are getting the best possible care. And get that care or at least periodic consults from a net specialist. A general onc typically does not have the proper knowledge to investigate and treat this disease.

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@lindabees How did you finally get help?

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@tinerobison

@lindabees How did you finally get help?

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We actually never had trouble getting help. His pnet was found incidentally and we’ve only seen NET specialists since that diagnosis. All have provided him with excellent care. A NET specialist is crucial to treating this disease. And even then we sometimes had to be persistent. For example, following his first surgery he frequently digestive and bowel issues (pain and diarrhea) Creon did not work but the specialist we saw for many years didn’t seem to have a solution. When we moved out of state and saw a new specialist, we talked about it and he suggested a bile test. Bingo! His system wasn’t getting rid of bile properly. He prescribed a med for it and that issue is now much better. Bottom line - if at all possible get your care from a net specialist. And if the one you see doesn’t help, seek a second opinion. Some even do video consults for 2nd opinions.

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@tinerobison

My husband has been having the same difficulty. We can’t get any physician to help us. We go for a Provo scan in January 2024. I’m hoping this will give us some more answers and try to get a doctor to support us. Did you show your scan to Your current doctors or are you going to a new one?

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My doctors would not listen to me at all! Just kept saying they don't know why I get sweating, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea and finally I faint! Now wouldn't you think they would check further???? No, just do nothing. So doing this Prenuvo scan showed the nodules on the lung and pancreas. All my CT and PET scans showed nothing. So they were shocked. And NO, not one of them would look at my disc. They were afraid of a virus. But, not one of them told me I could go to Southwest Medical Radiology(I live in Las Vegas) and ask them to upload the disc to my records. And do you know who told me this, it was the PA that I saw Monday for the nodule on my lung. She was shocked that not one doctor told me this. She said many people come in with disc from other states and the doctors tell them to have them uploaded. I think they did not want to tell me because they are being sarcastic about the Prenuvo Scan being the scan to the Hollywood Stars! The Prenuvo is not only in LA it is in other states. I am so upset with the medical care out in Las Vegas. They have no interest unless they order the test. I also have CLL and again it was a PA that diagnosed that after a couple of years complaining of the the symptoms. All the doctors I saw told me I had a urinary tract infection! OMG, just listen to your body and change doctors when you do not get answers. If you have trouble doing that, call your insurance company and ask them to help you. The PA for the lung feels most of my symptoms are coming from the pancreas. I have an endoscopic ultrasound in January with a new GI doctor! Most doctors, especially out in Las Vegas, never dealt with a patient with Neuroendocrine symptoms. I spoke to one surgeon who said in all the years he was in practice he only had one patient. So that's why when you tell them your symptoms, they can't think outside the box. They would tell me it's your CLL, which I did not have when my symptoms started or it's hormonal, had all that checked out perfect. I'm not diabetic, no high blood pressure, actually nothing but the CLL and I do have a rare neurological disease which would not cause the symptoms I am getting.
So I suggest once you get the scan request the disc, they will mail you a complete report and disc. Then ask your primary doctor where you can get the disc uploaded to your records. I'm sure every state has the same regulations for out of state disc. If you don't get answers call your insurance company and ask them how to get the disc uploaded to your medical records.
I want to wish you the best of luck. I know what you are going through. I'm a persistent person and I never take no for an answer when I know there is something wrong. My best to you and please keep us updated on your scan. You will be very impressed with the Prenuvo team. They are so kind and compassionate.
I see the PA for the lung in 2 weeks and she said probably will order a biopsy.

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@tinerobison

@lindabees How did you finally get help?

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I'm on the path to getting the help. Lung biopsy and pancreatic biopsy. Will have more answers in January. I truly watch what I eat and when the symptoms start, I lay down and put a wet washcloth on my head to cool down, hoping I won't vomit. If I stay like that, if I'm home, the episode will pass. Honestly, I don't have answers to how to stop these episodes, but I think once I have answers there will be something that will help. Fingers crossed.

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@lindabees

We actually never had trouble getting help. His pnet was found incidentally and we’ve only seen NET specialists since that diagnosis. All have provided him with excellent care. A NET specialist is crucial to treating this disease. And even then we sometimes had to be persistent. For example, following his first surgery he frequently digestive and bowel issues (pain and diarrhea) Creon did not work but the specialist we saw for many years didn’t seem to have a solution. When we moved out of state and saw a new specialist, we talked about it and he suggested a bile test. Bingo! His system wasn’t getting rid of bile properly. He prescribed a med for it and that issue is now much better. Bottom line - if at all possible get your care from a net specialist. And if the one you see doesn’t help, seek a second opinion. Some even do video consults for 2nd opinions.

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We went to a PNET specialist at Mayo in Rochester, MN and he completely ignored our concerns he said it wasn’t coming from the tumor.. I was completely applaud by his behavior as a physician there he had no compassion. We were so excited to go to Mayo hoping we would have a plan when we left there and when we left we we’re more confused then ever.. we were completely disappointed because we thought Mayo’s reputation was they would find a solution as they advertised. Nope we were sent on a plane to go home! Completely discouraged!! I personally think we just saw the wrong doctor there!

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@terlato

I'm on the path to getting the help. Lung biopsy and pancreatic biopsy. Will have more answers in January. I truly watch what I eat and when the symptoms start, I lay down and put a wet washcloth on my head to cool down, hoping I won't vomit. If I stay like that, if I'm home, the episode will pass. Honestly, I don't have answers to how to stop these episodes, but I think once I have answers there will be something that will help. Fingers crossed.

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I am so glad you found some answers l! Personally for us I think we just need to find the right doctor who wants to help instead of making my husband think he is completely crazy and making this stuff all up! Not sure how you can make this up when daily your lying on the floor every night thriving in pain in his stomach area!

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@tinerobison

I am so glad you found some answers l! Personally for us I think we just need to find the right doctor who wants to help instead of making my husband think he is completely crazy and making this stuff all up! Not sure how you can make this up when daily your lying on the floor every night thriving in pain in his stomach area!

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I totally know how he and you feel. At least you are there to confirm it. My symptoms have been happening sin 2011! I live alone and that's why the doctor's don't believe me because no one has witnessed it happening to me. We are not crazy! Just that they are not knowledgable about neuroendocrine tumors. Just keep going until you find the right doctor that will listen and help. Very frustrating, but eventually there will be one smart doctor that will give you the answers and help. Try your best to find a Neuroendocrine doctor where you live. Unfortunately, there aren't any in Las Vegas! If all else fails, when he is in horrific pain, go to the ER. Then they will take it seriously and do bloodwork and scans right away. Maybe you will get some answeres. My best to you both and trust me I know how he feels. Please keep us informed. Happy Holidays and may the new year bring you peace especially with your health.

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@tinerobison

We went to a PNET specialist at Mayo in Rochester, MN and he completely ignored our concerns he said it wasn’t coming from the tumor.. I was completely applaud by his behavior as a physician there he had no compassion. We were so excited to go to Mayo hoping we would have a plan when we left there and when we left we we’re more confused then ever.. we were completely disappointed because we thought Mayo’s reputation was they would find a solution as they advertised. Nope we were sent on a plane to go home! Completely discouraged!! I personally think we just saw the wrong doctor there!

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Thorvardur Halfdanarson is at Mayo Rochester and is one of the top specialists in the country.

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