Robotic prostatectomy and lymph nodes dissection

Posted by popkovas @popkovas, Oct 19, 2023

Hello!
My relative has decided on robotic prostatectomy and interested in hearing stories about complications related to lymph nodes dissection. What occurred, how was treated?
His doctor gave him a choice - dissect it or not as he is in the lower risk group.

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@ddun1953

I concur with hammer. I had almost the exact Stage of PC as you, it was 3 months ago and all the LNs taken all negative. Go back for my first blood work in 3 weeks and hope Gleason is 0. I pee 200 times a day and now on two pills called Minapine and Betmiga 50 mg 3rd day on adding this Betmiga. Pee count is cut some but not normal at all. I stay home and do things, exercise hard againg 2.5 hours a day. Do the Kelgel and also the Pelvic one, lay on your back with legs up so you can hunch in the air and hold it a minute pushing up hard and a 1,000 cruches as it all builds back your core. The whole was the dreadufl and awful thing to happen to me. My dinky is dead, little and can't roll on my right side as it hurts too now. I am optismic and joke about it all as
what choice does one have. God Bless all of you

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Good luck with your PSA check in 3 wees.

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@donaldguy

Had 13 pelvic nodes removed with RLP in July at Mayo Jax. All negative. Had first post op PSA yesterday. Hallelujah! < .1. Surgeon termed this “undetectable!” Will continue PSA’s at three month intervals. Feeling very blessed.

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Great news! I too had 13 nodes removed at Mayo Jax but in Sept. They were negative. My gleason was upgraded after surgery to 4+3. Margins clear. My first psa is in Dec. Praying for undetectable! I dont think I have any side effects from the node removal. I was also 100% continent after catheter removal. I feel very blessed too!

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Not as fortunate as you with immediate continence but I’m 98% there now. Praying for great PSA results for you.

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@hammer101

Good luck with your PSA check in 3 wees.

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Thanks bud. We all need some good things to happen. The last 5 months have been the most upsetting of my life. That pain 7 days in the hosp and home for 2 more weeks was very hard. I am tough and now am back to my 2.5 hours a day working out hard. I am building the core back and I have to laugh as before all this crap, I was doing 50/30/20 push ups fast. Now, I can barely do 15,
The 200 times a day in the bathroom was challenging and just as of 3 days ago, the Surgeon put me on this Betmiga 25mg. My barthroom count has dropped in half already. Dr. Schlotz on utube explains about everything you need to know.

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@trusam1

I had this done 6 months ago. All nodes were negative. I have had some lymphedema in my right leg since then...water retention/swelling in the ankle and lower calf due to the change in the lymph drainage from the leg. I manage it with exercise and compression stockings.

Before I retired, I was a gynecologic surgeon. With that knowledge, it was inconceivable to me that I would undergo the risk of major cancer surgery without removing the lymph nodes which drain the prostate area...that's how cancer starts its spread through the body. Not having the information obtained (cancer present in the nodes or not) precludes knowing whether further treatment might be needed in addition to the surgery. Removing the lymph nodes is part of why they call the surgery "radical".

Compared to the after effects of 3 months of improving urinary incontinence and on-going erectile dysfunction, the lymphedema was the least of the surgery's impact on my life since.

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I read your comments about the removal of your negative lymph nodes/glands to avoid major cancer surgery. I was diagnosed 10 years ago with prostate cancer. My psa was a 21. So I opted for radiation seed therapy, my psa stayed under a 5 for ten years. A month and a half ago my psa went up to a 13. So I had a PET scan done, and it found two spots both less then a cm a piece. But they dont/can't say it's cancer, the doctors are calling them suspicious for now. For a month and a half I've been taking 1000mg of Abiraterone, and 5mg of Prednisone, with one injection on Lupron. Since that month in a half, my psa is at 0.3 now.
But my concern is at times I feel a little funny/weird down in my right side my leg and in my pelvis area, the same side of where my cancer was In my prostate. The feeling in my pelvis isn't pain, but I know it's there. Sometimes the feeling will shoot down the inside of my right leg. My concern is how will I know if these suspicious spots are cancerous? My oncologist told me they are to small to do a biopsy at this point. Also I wanted to know if the doctors, or my oncologist will be willing to just wait and see what develops with my psa numbers?
Or can the doctors do a laparoscopy surgery? Or just take to out the cancerous cells/tumors? Or do they take out some surrounding lymph glands? To get it all? How will this affect the way the lymph glands to the pelvis area and the leg area. I know these are a lot of questions guys, but the unknown can be stressful. I fo have a appointment the first week on November with my oncologist, in which I will ask these questions as well, I just wanted to reach out to my community of men that may be or have experienced cancer in tge lymph node glands?? Thanks all of you, and trusam1 for your patience to allow me to inquire about this possible further treatment.

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@al2

I read your comments about the removal of your negative lymph nodes/glands to avoid major cancer surgery. I was diagnosed 10 years ago with prostate cancer. My psa was a 21. So I opted for radiation seed therapy, my psa stayed under a 5 for ten years. A month and a half ago my psa went up to a 13. So I had a PET scan done, and it found two spots both less then a cm a piece. But they dont/can't say it's cancer, the doctors are calling them suspicious for now. For a month and a half I've been taking 1000mg of Abiraterone, and 5mg of Prednisone, with one injection on Lupron. Since that month in a half, my psa is at 0.3 now.
But my concern is at times I feel a little funny/weird down in my right side my leg and in my pelvis area, the same side of where my cancer was In my prostate. The feeling in my pelvis isn't pain, but I know it's there. Sometimes the feeling will shoot down the inside of my right leg. My concern is how will I know if these suspicious spots are cancerous? My oncologist told me they are to small to do a biopsy at this point. Also I wanted to know if the doctors, or my oncologist will be willing to just wait and see what develops with my psa numbers?
Or can the doctors do a laparoscopy surgery? Or just take to out the cancerous cells/tumors? Or do they take out some surrounding lymph glands? To get it all? How will this affect the way the lymph glands to the pelvis area and the leg area. I know these are a lot of questions guys, but the unknown can be stressful. I fo have a appointment the first week on November with my oncologist, in which I will ask these questions as well, I just wanted to reach out to my community of men that may be or have experienced cancer in tge lymph node glands?? Thanks all of you, and trusam1 for your patience to allow me to inquire about this possible further treatment.

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@al2, you’re asking all the right questions for your medical team at your upcoming appointment. I don’t have answers for you, but wanted to weight in to say that your questions are good ones. I hope you’ll share what you learn.

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@colleenyoung

@al2, you’re asking all the right questions for your medical team at your upcoming appointment. I don’t have answers for you, but wanted to weight in to say that your questions are good ones. I hope you’ll share what you learn.

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Gm Colleen. Thanks you for your response to my questions, yes fighting this battle creates a lot of questions. But with oncologist and urologist, and this awesome support group/community we have here, we can get some, if not all of them answered? Butcas you know there is the human element to these questions. Sometimes we get in our own heads! Where we press play, and then hit rewind, causing are own stresses ect... But I will share what I've learned from my next appointment. Wednesday I'm getting Bloodwork done for a updated PSA reading, and Thursday is my appointment with my urologist. So I'll let you guys know what I gathered from that appointment. Until then thanks for your encouragement, this community is awesome!!!

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@colleenyoung

@al2, you’re asking all the right questions for your medical team at your upcoming appointment. I don’t have answers for you, but wanted to weight in to say that your questions are good ones. I hope you’ll share what you learn.

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Oh by the way, I'm also seeing my ("oncologist "), as well the same day, for the more detailed questions that I have about the lymph nodes/glands. I'll let everyone know about that conversation as well.

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@keywest19

Great news! I too had 13 nodes removed at Mayo Jax but in Sept. They were negative. My gleason was upgraded after surgery to 4+3. Margins clear. My first psa is in Dec. Praying for undetectable! I dont think I have any side effects from the node removal. I was also 100% continent after catheter removal. I feel very blessed too!

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Wow! That is great news. I pray if my situation, if it comes to that, that I'm that fortunate. At this point, I'm coming off of a PSA reading of 13, and now it's a 0.3, due to some ADT/hormone treatment, from 1000mg of Abiraterone, and 5mg of Prednisone, and one injection of Lupron. That PSA of a 13, came down within a month and a half, but my new concern is how my PSA got to a 13. This is what I was told, after my PET SCAN, it found two suspicious spots both less than a cm, but they are there, now they won't say it's cancerous yet, I pray their not, but the oncologist says their to small to do a biopsy. So I guess I'll wait and see? But congratulations on your good news. You are blessed!!

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@al2

Wow! That is great news. I pray if my situation, if it comes to that, that I'm that fortunate. At this point, I'm coming off of a PSA reading of 13, and now it's a 0.3, due to some ADT/hormone treatment, from 1000mg of Abiraterone, and 5mg of Prednisone, and one injection of Lupron. That PSA of a 13, came down within a month and a half, but my new concern is how my PSA got to a 13. This is what I was told, after my PET SCAN, it found two suspicious spots both less than a cm, but they are there, now they won't say it's cancerous yet, I pray their not, but the oncologist says their to small to do a biopsy. So I guess I'll wait and see? But congratulations on your good news. You are blessed!!

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Thank you! Many prayers for you. Waiting is tough

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