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@rsfcowgirl You have brought up such a thought provoking subject, and I have enjoyed the intellectual exchanges with others. I have no doubt the organization is legit as I know you vet things very well. My gut says they probably sell the data or data mining rights as an additional fund raising method that makes it “free” to people who can benefit by attending, that despite getting money from government or whatever sources, they feel they can provide even more by trying to sell sponsorships, advertising rights at the conference, and our data. I agree it just stinks, maybe not as much as the obvious snake oil salesman prey on the sick & vulnerable, but still makes us feel violated.
Colleen shared the humbling legal OK that allows them to do it, and how our laws aren’t able to micromanage every single group or agency, and that’s just sad too. I was on an airplane last week, and while my husband and I were willing to pay for the emergency row exit to enjoy more legroom, we did not because I know I’m handicapped and know I really wouldn’t be ideal to help in the event of an emergency, and I have been part of an emergency landing before! All 12 emergency seats were full, and one man had a neck brace on. On the other side was a very elderly couple, I’m guessing close to 90 each, they both walked very slow, were hunched over, and looked so frail. (please, I don’t want to judge books by their covers, but we can’t help ourselves sometimes) A man near me asked the flight attendant about the guy with the neck brace, and expressed his concern for emergency (he must have been afraid to comment on the frail looking couple). The attendant politely explained how everyone in the exit rows replied they were willing and able to help in an emergency , and that’s all they could do, but they would allow him to get off the plane and they would reschedule him for another flight if he felt uncomfortable. This situation was quite a debatable conundrum!
I agree with your feelings that not only are we preyed upon, we’re having to take huge risks with our privacy to get help, and with your IT knowledge you know the risk more than others. What I do know is that I’ve gotten at least 10 letters in the mail over the last 5 years explaining how my data had been compromised by breaches in various business systems, including medical. I applaud you for tackling this - if these organizations are that serious and sincere, maybe they can fund raise other ways than collecting our data.
You have both made me realize to think hard before sharing data and questing why, and to make informed choices in doing so. I’m also sad for those public safety instances that can’t have more safeguards when they need to be in place to help protect people. But attending a seminar is not one of them needing our personal data in my opinion.

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First, I commend you for living a life of integrity. Double that when you have a disability and sacrifice your preferences for the unselfish standard of chosing to do what is morally correct. You and I are starting at a mirror point as we discuss issues.
My first issue with the organizations requirement for personal and medical information disclosure in order to receive freely available related medical information they discussion in is that it is an unreasonable demand, imo, which is exclusionary to some of the very people the non-profit disease- supporting org exists to 'help.'
There may be many reasons why they want to accumulate medical + personal data. Financial gain may only be one reason.
The real harm of this is how seriously this places a person/patient at risk. As you mentioned, data breaches happen more often than we even know. Beyond privacy risk, there are safety and security risks. Let's say data is breached by hackers looking for wealthy disabled and perhaps dying people. Literally, targeted victimization is fully enabled by the detailed information required by this organization, should this fall into malicious hands. Also, what if you didn't inform certain people of your medical problems and something comes in the mail to your required listed home address or substituted your workplace? Since we've learned here HIPAA does not apply here, what would prevent that if bad judgement was exercised? And the idea that it wasn't disclosed that the incentive with prize possibility to have your conference badge scanned by as many vendors as possible may be a process by which you are transmitting your personal data. Vendors are not even ethically bound to protect your interest or privacy if you directly + voluntarily share information with them. Who knows where all that information will end up.
However, I did have a subsequent experience recently subsequent to submitting that extensive information then rescinding it. I received a non-bulk letter that provided information about various avenues available to me to get reimbursement for pre-death expenses and funeral costs. This was not an insurance policy solicitation. It wasn't a reverse mortgage mailer. This was custom geared to me. It included govt options and other non govt resources. This was not a govt mailer either. There was no return address. I never received any like it before. Needless to say, it showed me the tip of an iceberg I'm likely now in the waters around. I immediately flashed on the option I originally checked for "treatment" from the mandatory pull down menu indicating "none" and wondered if this resulted in the generation of this letter, which had my legal name on it. Bottom line: we live in an information and digital age that has exalted itself over people, imo. I am becoming aware of many realities these days that I probably should have learned about years ago. I feel like I've been buried under an avalanche of harsh reality. Digging out ......slowly