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@terrym

Hello all, new to PMR and finding this Connect site very helpful.

I'm a 63 yo male, diagnosed in late June of this year and feel lucky that I was diagnosed quickly, especially after seeing others suffer for years before proper diagnosis. I'm also a type 2 diabetic with mild hypertension.

In April I started having more stiffness in my hips/back than the typical morning stiffness, but not horrible and kept putting off seeing an ortho, thinking it was mild sciatica. In mid/late May, my hip flexors started getting sore and then my right knee started to get stiff/sore. I finally got an ortho appointment June 7th. By the time of my appointment, both hip flexors and knees were sore and stiff (4-5/10 pain scale) pain dropped a bit after early morning walk with the dog, but was constant and built throughout the day. The x-rays showed no damage, but blood tests showed elevated inflammation markers (CRP and ESR) but rheumatoid factor and ANA were negative. He thought it may still be Rheumatoid Arthritis, so he gave me a referral to see a Rheumatologist and a prescription for a 6-day pack of methylprednisolone. Within a few hours felt a lot better and the next day all the pain was gone. The day after finishing the course of meds, the pain started coming back and the following day was fully back. Well, as everyone has found out, it was two months out to see the rheumatologist and the pain started increasing and was in both hip joins and both knee joints. Both shoulders and wrists were also sore, but I attributed that to over exertion to compensate for lifting/pulling my self along because of the leg pain. It took a week to see my new PCP's Nurse Practitioner (NP) and by then, June 26th, the pain level was at a constant 5-6/10 and walking didn't help much anymore. A full panel of blood tests ruled out Lupus, Lyme's, gout, HIV, etc. The inflammation markers were up 3x and 5x from previous elevated tests. I was prescribed Meloxicam, but unfortunately the pain was getting worse, or so seemed because it was constant without any relief and lack of sleep. I could only work for 2-3 hours a day and then went home and laid flat with a pillow under my knees that let me doze for 15 minutes every couple of hours. The entire next July 4th week it was so bad I stayed home in misery. A couple of times I extremely painfully got into the car and sat for 5 minutes but was in so much pain I went back in and laid down. I called the NP on that Wednesday and she called in a 20mg dose of prednisone and we both agreed I most likely had PMR and not RA. Finally within a couple hours of starting, things improved and a few days later I felt fairly normal, except that by early evening the pain and stiffness started returning. After a follow up visit with my NP on July 26th, we thought it best to split the prednisone to 10 in the morning and 10 in the evening and that did the trick. I was feeling back to normal, except for being a bit exhausted and weak from the inactivity as well a losing 20 lbs in 5-6 weeks. Finally saw the rheumatologist about two weeks ago. She agreed that it is PMR. She seemed a bit surprised that I had bilateral pain in all joints (except ankle) at the same time. I also had not seen anyone describe that in any of the posts here or anywhere online. She did "scold" me for splitting my prednisone dose and insisted I only take in the morning as well as asking why I was on such a "high dose" at 20mg and the need to start tapering. Also started me on calcium/vit D supplements for bone loss since I will be on prednisone for awhile. Within three days of dropping to 17.5mg in the morning only, things came roaring back...... I immediately returned to 10mg morn and eve for two days and by the next day was back to pain free. I then went to 10mg morning and 7.5 evening and have only had very mild stiffness pain (1-2/10) in the shoulders the past ten days. At the two week mark, I will go to 7.5 morn/eve and see how that goes.

A few closing items:
- As I mentioned earlier, I feel lucky that this was diagnosed quickly
- Looking forward to tapering the prednisone, but will do it on my schedule, not as prescribed by my rheumatologist. Some great threads on tapering on this site! It is messing with my sleep and blood sugars, as well as having the typical jitters, flushing and very occasional heartbeat issues, but that is better than the pain, as long as I can taper down.
- Also, some good threads here on our providers not listening to us as individuals, but thinking everyone is the same.
- I've attached an article from a doctor who went through the same thing and really struck a cord with me.

Thanks, Terry

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Hello @terrym, Welcome to Connect. I was fortunate to get a fairly quick referral to a rheumatologist from my primary care doc when my PMR was first diagnosed. I've had 2 occurrences of PMR and was started on 20 mg for both. It's great to hear you are advocating for your own health. You would think PCPs would be more knowledgeable about PMR but most aren't. Fortunate for us PMR patients, there is a lot of peer reviewed information available on the Internet. The trick is finding it. Here are more if you haven't already seen them:

--- GCA & PMR - Treat-to-target recommendations in giant cell arteritis and polymyalgia rheumatica: https://ard.bmj.com/content/early/2023/02/23/ard-2022-223429
--- 2015 Recommendations for the management of polymyalgia rheumatica: a European League Against Rheumatism/American College of Rheumatology collaborative initiative:
https://ard.bmj.com/content/74/10/1799
--- "Normal ESR and CRP should not stop to include PMR in differential diagnosis."
Polymyalgia rheumatica with normal values of both erythrocyte sedimentation rate and C-reactive protein concentration at the time of diagnosis: https://academic.oup.com/rheumatology/article/58/5/921/5285558.

There is another discussion you might also find helpful:
--- PMR Dosages and Managing Symptoms: https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/pmr-dosages/.

My rheumy had me keep a daily log to track my pain when I got up in the morning along with the prednisone dose for that day. Do you keep a daily log?

@terrym I have similar story — very similar. How are you dealing with increased blood sugar from Prednisone? I also am a type 2 diabetic but no real problem until started Prednisone.

Thank you so much for the link. Great article!

Hi @tryym, After straining my right ankle, my PMR pain was constant, from the neck down, everywhere in my body. It was like I stepped into an Astronaut suit of pain and stiffness. No amount of exercise that I was able to manage made it any better. Later that pain eased up, but I developed other symptoms. I couldn't even turn my head, my neck was so stiff and sore. I wasn't on Prednisone at that time. Was diagnosed with GCA a year after symptoms started, on prednisone about a year and a half, and off it now, nearly a year with no flareups.
My PCP said he missed the PMR because I didn't present the textbook symptoms!

Terry, I have had a lot if ups and downs with my pmr. My pcp sent me to the er once because after doing xrays and bloodwork because my left hand was very painful, my WBC count was very high looking like an infection. It was not an infection but an immune response. They gave me 60mg of medrol in an IV. It worked.
I also have a shoulder problem which acts up once in awhile but it's rotator cuff related. I have found physical therapy helpful for some of the isolated problems like my shoulder, my neck, and my hands. I have had the same therapist for these problems and he was extremely helpful. Heat or ice may help. Maybe heat in the morning, I am now periodically icing my hands during the day to see if I can keep my inflammatory arthritis from flaring. I'm also modifying my diet. I found a couple of good anti-inflammation diet magazines that have helpful articles and suggestions about lifestyle changes that could be beneficial. Every little bit helps, one day at a time.
suzanne