Am I a good candidate for TKR surgery now or should I wait?

Posted by Shelley @skmsf, Aug 22, 2023

I was diagnosed with bone on bone osteoarthritis in both knees 4 years ago after a painful episode of swelling and stiffness in my left knee. After a cortisone shot and waiting a few weeks for an appointment with an orthopedic surgeon I felt ok and chose not to have the knee replaced. The surgeon advised me that I would know when it was time to have the surgery by the amount of pain I was in. Fast forward 4 years and I’ve had a similar incident, another cortisone shot and another referral to the orthopedic surgeon next month. I feel better again, not in pain, no swelling or stiffness. I’m not athletic but walk quite a bit and have stairs in my house I’m able to navigate without a problem. I’m 71 and in good health and wonder if I should go ahead with the surgery now instead of waiting until I’m older and perhaps in poorer health.
By the way, reading about the various problems people have had recovering on this website are a little scary for me especially the pain and length of recovery time. I’m interested in knowing how those who’ve had the surgery came to the decision to have it done and if you are you glad you did it. Thanks.

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Shelly, as long as you are in some doubt as to whether to do your knee, you probably don't need to do it yet. I was surprised to hear I was a candidate for knee replacement after my first set of x-rays. I had twisted my right knee by stepping in a hole walking downhill through a forest, and after three or four months, it still was not back to normal, so I went to an orthopedist to find out why. I had a hard time believing my cartilage was that bad, because prior to the twist, I had no pain in the knee. I was treated first with cortisone a few times which improved it a lot, and then with Synvisc injections when the cortisone quit working. Then the Synvisc quit working too and my knee got more painful, but I could still get around and do most things. My kitchen is a full flight of stairs up from the main entrance, so I always had a lot of steps to climb every day, and going downstairs putting weight on the knee was very troublesome. I made the decision for surgery the day I was walking down our rather steep grassy hill, my knee suddenly gave out in an explosion of pain and I went rolling down the hill. It remained very painful for the next few days, but it was still summer and I had to hobble around doing harvesting garden chores. I decided then and there that I was ready for surgery because I did not want to go through another unexpected fall, with that amount of pain. If I had fallen while on our stairs and landed on the basement cement, I'm sure I would have had other injuries, lucky for me the grass was soft. I had a very successful surgery, my pain afterwards was limited to just a dull aching sensation, no sharp or debilitating pain like I expected. Elevation and icing many times a day, get up and walk around for 5 minutes every hour. PT beginning immediately after surgery, (overnight stay in the hospital) 3 x week, tapering down to 2 x week after 4 weeks, then 1 x week for a couple more. It's tedious to do the assigned home exercises, but having to report back to a PT person makes you more likely to not skip. I was pretty much back to a new normal in about 3 months.
My left knee was not quite as painful as the right had been when I decided to do the surgery on it about 1 year later. But again, I had pain stepping down on each stair step, which I had to use many times a day, and I was so pleased with my first outcome, that I had no qualms about going to my same ortho surgeon to do my other knee. Same good outcome.

For me, the first three days at home were the most uncomfortable and awkward to get around. I soon quit using the walker around the house after a couple of days and relied on walls and furniture to get where I was going. I quit using the tramadol and oxycodone sent home with me after the first day, because they made me nauseous and tired and I didn't need them for pain. With the first surgery, I learned that YES, you do need to take the laxatives they prescribe, even if you normally don't ever need any! At least for a few days until the surgery anesthesia and hospital opioids leave your body.

Any surgery is a risk, there are thousands of successful TKR's done every year, which is no consolation if you are one of the unlucky ones with problems.

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@heyjoe415

Very thoughtful post Sherry. A few comments:

1. This isn't scientific, but my opinion is that most people who post here have had problems, some inevitable and unfortunately, others avoidable if only the patient took their part in recovery seriously. Once a decision is made to have a TKR, find a trainer or pt and do as much pre surgery rehab as possible to make the muscles around the knee strong. Post surgery do ALL the recommended exercises, usually 3x day and usually immediately after surgery.

2. If you aren't having significant and constant pain, wait. I started pre hab exercises and my knee got better. I put off surgery until the day I jammed the lateral side of my knee and swelling commenced and the pain would not go away. And the pain kept me up at night. That's when I decided to have surgery.

3. Putting this all together, you want to eventually come out of surgery feeling better, Ala, no pain or much less pain. If there is no pain at the moment, hold off. My surgeon recommended this, saying he doesn't want people coming back feeling worse than before the surgery.

4. Chances are very good that with bone on bone, you need a TKR. That said, only do it when the pain is constant. Cortisone will make it feel better, but it's a band aid. And you can't have surgery within 3 months of a cortisone shot.

5. Finally, and I've posted this often, do exercises pre surgery to strengthen the quads and hamstring muscles. And literally attack the post-op rehab (well, don't over do it, but you get my meaning). They will have you take a short walk while you are still in the recovery room. Activity is your friend now. Do all the ankle pulls and leg lifts and what not, probably 3x day, and see a pt asap after surgery. The results should be good with a bit of patience. No one feels great after a surgery like this, but each day gets a little better.

I had both knees replaced in 2022. I'm a 68 y/o male and former runner. Now I'm in the gym 6 or 7 days a week, work with a trainer 2x week, and have never felt better. Now I practiced what I preached and never gave scar tissue a chance!

As for surgeons, find someone in their mid 30s to mid/late 40s, with a solid pedigree (university or residency or both) and who use a robotic assistant, like the Stryker Mako.

Scar tissue is the biggest threat to a recovery. I've seen too many people post here who neglected the post op rehab or thought they could do it later or at their leisure. First thought wrong! Keep that knee moving as much and as far as it will allow. Get obsessed with your recovery!

All the best to you!

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HeyJoe415:
Excellent post. One caveat-I did everything you wrote about, continued to do PT & exercise, but still have pain & stiffness in TKR (robotic surgery with surgeon with excellent credentials) almost 5 months post-op.
I’m active, normal weight, etc., but have not had a good outcome. Simply bad luck apparently, or unknown factors neither my surgeon nor I can explain. Majority of patients do well, some do not, despite all best efforts…

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@heyjoe415

Very thoughtful post Sherry. A few comments:

1. This isn't scientific, but my opinion is that most people who post here have had problems, some inevitable and unfortunately, others avoidable if only the patient took their part in recovery seriously. Once a decision is made to have a TKR, find a trainer or pt and do as much pre surgery rehab as possible to make the muscles around the knee strong. Post surgery do ALL the recommended exercises, usually 3x day and usually immediately after surgery.

2. If you aren't having significant and constant pain, wait. I started pre hab exercises and my knee got better. I put off surgery until the day I jammed the lateral side of my knee and swelling commenced and the pain would not go away. And the pain kept me up at night. That's when I decided to have surgery.

3. Putting this all together, you want to eventually come out of surgery feeling better, Ala, no pain or much less pain. If there is no pain at the moment, hold off. My surgeon recommended this, saying he doesn't want people coming back feeling worse than before the surgery.

4. Chances are very good that with bone on bone, you need a TKR. That said, only do it when the pain is constant. Cortisone will make it feel better, but it's a band aid. And you can't have surgery within 3 months of a cortisone shot.

5. Finally, and I've posted this often, do exercises pre surgery to strengthen the quads and hamstring muscles. And literally attack the post-op rehab (well, don't over do it, but you get my meaning). They will have you take a short walk while you are still in the recovery room. Activity is your friend now. Do all the ankle pulls and leg lifts and what not, probably 3x day, and see a pt asap after surgery. The results should be good with a bit of patience. No one feels great after a surgery like this, but each day gets a little better.

I had both knees replaced in 2022. I'm a 68 y/o male and former runner. Now I'm in the gym 6 or 7 days a week, work with a trainer 2x week, and have never felt better. Now I practiced what I preached and never gave scar tissue a chance!

As for surgeons, find someone in their mid 30s to mid/late 40s, with a solid pedigree (university or residency or both) and who use a robotic assistant, like the Stryker Mako.

Scar tissue is the biggest threat to a recovery. I've seen too many people post here who neglected the post op rehab or thought they could do it later or at their leisure. First thought wrong! Keep that knee moving as much and as far as it will allow. Get obsessed with your recovery!

All the best to you!

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Thank you @heyjoe415 I find your post very useful, informative and encouraging. I have been especially concerned about scar tissue since so many posts relate to that and have a friend who underwent a very painful procedure to break it up. It was awful for her. But, I did not understand the relationship between exercise and the development of scar tissue.

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@heyjoe415

Very thoughtful post Sherry. A few comments:

1. This isn't scientific, but my opinion is that most people who post here have had problems, some inevitable and unfortunately, others avoidable if only the patient took their part in recovery seriously. Once a decision is made to have a TKR, find a trainer or pt and do as much pre surgery rehab as possible to make the muscles around the knee strong. Post surgery do ALL the recommended exercises, usually 3x day and usually immediately after surgery.

2. If you aren't having significant and constant pain, wait. I started pre hab exercises and my knee got better. I put off surgery until the day I jammed the lateral side of my knee and swelling commenced and the pain would not go away. And the pain kept me up at night. That's when I decided to have surgery.

3. Putting this all together, you want to eventually come out of surgery feeling better, Ala, no pain or much less pain. If there is no pain at the moment, hold off. My surgeon recommended this, saying he doesn't want people coming back feeling worse than before the surgery.

4. Chances are very good that with bone on bone, you need a TKR. That said, only do it when the pain is constant. Cortisone will make it feel better, but it's a band aid. And you can't have surgery within 3 months of a cortisone shot.

5. Finally, and I've posted this often, do exercises pre surgery to strengthen the quads and hamstring muscles. And literally attack the post-op rehab (well, don't over do it, but you get my meaning). They will have you take a short walk while you are still in the recovery room. Activity is your friend now. Do all the ankle pulls and leg lifts and what not, probably 3x day, and see a pt asap after surgery. The results should be good with a bit of patience. No one feels great after a surgery like this, but each day gets a little better.

I had both knees replaced in 2022. I'm a 68 y/o male and former runner. Now I'm in the gym 6 or 7 days a week, work with a trainer 2x week, and have never felt better. Now I practiced what I preached and never gave scar tissue a chance!

As for surgeons, find someone in their mid 30s to mid/late 40s, with a solid pedigree (university or residency or both) and who use a robotic assistant, like the Stryker Mako.

Scar tissue is the biggest threat to a recovery. I've seen too many people post here who neglected the post op rehab or thought they could do it later or at their leisure. First thought wrong! Keep that knee moving as much and as far as it will allow. Get obsessed with your recovery!

All the best to you!

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So well thought out clearly. I decided against reverse shoulder surgery. I had this injury 11 years ago and decided to see a specialist. Based on what I read in this forum plus doing my own research, I decided to hold off. However, I work out quite often, daily exercise , no chronic pain, feeling good overall. I am glad I did. Continue to take of yourself . Best wishes.

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