How much weight lifting is required to build bone?

Posted by cahabagirl @cahabagirl, May 28, 2023

After a full year of weekly Osteostrong sessions, my T scores remained the same: spine -1.7, right hip -1.5, and left hip -1.3. While I’m glad that the scores were no worse, I decided that it wasn’t worth the expense. My physician told me that I can increase my bone density with weightlifting even at the age of 73. I am 5’7” and weigh 122 lbs.
So, I’ve joined a nice fitness center at a fraction of the cost and signed up for a personal trainer for 6 months.

At our first session, I told the trainer that I want to build bone, and I’m training twice a week. We started with low weights and he has me increase the weights each time. He told me that I am likely to see an increase in weight due to the building of muscles. I admit that after only 5 sessions, I like the changes I’m seeing but I don’t want to look like a bodybuilder and certainly don’t want to have to buy a new wardrobe.
My question is how does one determine how much weight will build bone? I assume that amount would vary depending on each person’s physique. If so, how does one calculate that?

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@vinny101

I started looking into it because I vaguely remember one of the member had mentioned about it as Merodyne being expensive and not everyone can afford. I look at anything from science/physics point of view. Also, I have not seen any US based reviews on Merodyne. They have few older ones from women based in UK on You tube also, not seen any on their website either. If it is so good as couple of the YouTubers say, I would like to know the data and how many women in US have used it and their experience using it. If developed with Nasa for astronauts, do they use it? Why is NASA is not promoting it for the welfare of the general public? To me, proof of the pudding is in eating no matter what it costs. It is for the benefit of my own health.
I am still looking for the right one, where people who have used it and some kind of experience. Meanwhile, if you come across anything please keep us updated. Thanks.

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I am by no means an expert but the NIH has conducted studies that indicate there are bone-building benefits to vibration therapy. The Merodyne is an exorbitant expense! I am using a LifePro vibration platform and hope to see improvement in my next Dexascan. I just started taking AlgaeCal and Strontium as well.

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@cahabagirl

I am by no means an expert but the NIH has conducted studies that indicate there are bone-building benefits to vibration therapy. The Merodyne is an exorbitant expense! I am using a LifePro vibration platform and hope to see improvement in my next Dexascan. I just started taking AlgaeCal and Strontium as well.

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Thanks, will look into Life Pro.
Just saw Margaret Martins video yesterday latest on Vibration therapy and was very encouraging
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz4DQw2DdA0
Meanwhile please read more about Strontium and talk to your physician. My PCP as well as Endocrinologist both were not in favor of it. Saw a recent video of Margaret Martin on strontium.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzJyMS8rshU&t=644s
She is a great resource for information on osteoporosis but sad that she only promotes one machine that lacks proven data in terms of how many people using this machine and how many are benefiting.

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@vinny101

Thanks, will look into Life Pro.
Just saw Margaret Martins video yesterday latest on Vibration therapy and was very encouraging
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz4DQw2DdA0
Meanwhile please read more about Strontium and talk to your physician. My PCP as well as Endocrinologist both were not in favor of it. Saw a recent video of Margaret Martin on strontium.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzJyMS8rshU&t=644s
She is a great resource for information on osteoporosis but sad that she only promotes one machine that lacks proven data in terms of how many people using this machine and how many are benefiting.

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Sigh. It is so difficult to feel comfortable with almost any regimen….pros and cons for almost everything. Thank you for sharing the info on Strontium. I just started taking it a few days ago. I’m second guessing at this point. I have checked several reputable sources for benefits of vibration therapy and 30-35 Hz seems to be the recommended range which is what I do in addition to walking daily and weightlifting 1-2 times a week.

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@teb

@fearfracture, I started HRT at about 10-11 years out of menopause. I was about 63 at the time and had just finished my 2 year course of Forteo. I weighed all of my options for a follow up treatment, deciding that HRT offered the best opportunity for a more natural bone remodeling process. I decided to take whatever risks (and benefits!) were associated with it vs. the risk of more osteoporosis drugs (for now anyway). It is difficult to assess long-term safety since there are no studies to support that, just observational. In the 4ish years I've been on HRT, I've pretty much maintained my density. I'm a really "fast loser" so maintaining is pretty terrific for me. As you've mentioned, bioidentical is essential and an estradiol patch at the lowest dose of .025 is supposed to effective for protecting bone. Because it is a very low dose, I would think there is also a little less risk involved. If you have a uterus, you must take progesterone and make sure that it is bioidentical as well in the form of micronized progesterone, not synthetic progestin which is what most conventional doctors will prescribe as that is what you will get from the pharmacy and through insurance coverage. I'm not sure if micronized progesterone is even available through conventional pharmacies as I have to get it from a mail order compounding pharmacy. It is pure with no fillers (unlike the pharmaceutical which has peanut oil in it. why??) and the cost is pretty reasonable at about $35 a month.

I have an upcoming appt with Dr Felice Gersh to get a perspective from her on my protocol. I plan to discuss whether I should have some testing done at this point, like a uterine ultrasound, to make sure all is well. Also will discuss whether I should continue taking progesterone daily or begin cycling that which from what I understand is a safer regimen (though you have to contend with some monthly bleeding). I will also get her perspective on long term use. She's an integrative gynocologist/MD and has been at this a really long time. She's very well versed on the research and has her own observational experience over decades in practice prescribing HRT. I'll report back on what I learn from her.

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Yes I would love to hear what Dr. Felice Gersh has to say about going on Bio HRT after a couple of decades past menopause and your protocol specifically. Thank you!

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@vinny101

Thanks, will look into Life Pro.
Just saw Margaret Martins video yesterday latest on Vibration therapy and was very encouraging
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz4DQw2DdA0
Meanwhile please read more about Strontium and talk to your physician. My PCP as well as Endocrinologist both were not in favor of it. Saw a recent video of Margaret Martin on strontium.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzJyMS8rshU&t=644s
She is a great resource for information on osteoporosis but sad that she only promotes one machine that lacks proven data in terms of how many people using this machine and how many are benefiting.

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Both the COMB study and MOTS studies on positive bone building with Strontium appear to be legitimate clinical trials and not done by a company who were selling their supplements. I would love your feedback and Margaret Martin's and Dr. McCormick's after looking at the these clinical trials. They used Strontium Citrate plus K2m7 , D and other micronutrients . According to these studies strontium affects the trabecular bone in a positive way.

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@foxy23

I am 73 yr and started bio identical hormones compounded specifically for me for 15 yrs. Even though my doctors wanted me off I stayed on because I had no hot flashes, no vagina dryness and my skin looked great. When I was 67 yrs I was dx with stage 1 breast cancer…estrogen dependent. My oncologist believes strongly that it was the HRT.
There isn’t breast cancer in my family, I don’t smoke and not overweight.
Perhaps if one gets off after 5 yrs, they would have the benefit but maybe not the scare.

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I was also on HRT for 6 years and had low risk of breast cancer- none in my family, no smoking and not overweight. I was diagnosed with breast cancer 2 years after stopping the HRT. I guess I'll never know if it was the HRT that caused my cancer but I would stay away from it if you can.

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Thank you so much for sharing. You may have helped prevent breast cancer in many women.

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As an Art History Student at one time, I have no credentials to answer your question. However, I have lifted weights, but hand surgery has me out of the gym. Yes, it will help your bones, improve your posture, and give you real confidence. Go for it and you body will thank you in little ways like no more stumbles.

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@vgkime

Both the COMB study and MOTS studies on positive bone building with Strontium appear to be legitimate clinical trials and not done by a company who were selling their supplements. I would love your feedback and Margaret Martin's and Dr. McCormick's after looking at the these clinical trials. They used Strontium Citrate plus K2m7 , D and other micronutrients . According to these studies strontium affects the trabecular bone in a positive way.

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I understand there are different forms of strontium. I’ve been afraid to try it. Are you taking a specific type? Also do you have to avoid taking calcium supplements?

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@kakilong54

I understand there are different forms of strontium. I’ve been afraid to try it. Are you taking a specific type? Also do you have to avoid taking calcium supplements?

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I take Strontium Citrate at a lower dose of around 450 mg per the MOTS study and you are supposed to take at least twice the calcium at a different time.

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