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@briea

After a lot of tests, scans and different doctors over the course of the last year, I recently got diagnosed with malignant insulinoma in the pancreas that has metastasized to the liver and probably the lymph nodes. It is a well differentiated G3 pancreatic NET insulinoma. The last post here I could find similar to mine (but I am new in trying to navigate this site so I could have missed a lot) was from the beginning of the year so I didn't know if people are still keeping up with that.

I had a Dotatate PET scan in June with biopsies. The main tumor is in the uncinate region of the pancreas with a Ki-67 of 15% but 24% in foci. I have "numerous hyper enhancing observations" all under 2 cm in my liver that my doctor says are too numerable to operate on, but also are "low-volume metastases". I also have "multiple enlarged lymph nodes" that indicate their involvement. I also noticed in my notes it says I have "peritoneal stranding" which he never mentioned at all, but after research seems like that's more bad cancer. I've had lots of blood work, but I have no idea what is important to look at or for because none of those results have been discussed with me and I haven't asked yet in person, but I'm really trying to put it all together.

I got referred to a NET specialist at MD Anderson in Houston a few weeks ago who lightly discussed a few therapies for me, but then strongly suggested chemotherapy and started me on Everolimus that I have currently been on for about 2 weeks. I also take dexamethasone mouthwash.

From my endocrinologist, I also take 3 daily short acting octreotide shots (my doctor was worried about the long acting one because when I take my shots my blood sugar goes down before it goes back up) and 2 daily diazoxide "servings" plus diet to help regulate my blood sugar. It is a constant battle to keep my numbers from going hypoglycemic. I have passed out a few times from low blood sugar, but luckily my family was there to give me an emergency inhaler thing and it's been a few months since that happened last. He also recently put me on Lipitor.

I was overwhelmed with the diagnosis because all the previous doctors (before MD Anderson) acted and said that it probably wasn't an insulinoma, but that if it WAS then it almost definitely was benign because they usually are. Then suddenly I saw a referral to an oncologist on my MyChart so I knew it was bad.

Because of this I probably didn't ask enough questions. I am going back for a follow-up next week and I now have a better idea of what I have and I have questions in a notebook to ask at my visit. I have only seen my NET specialist doctor one time and the rest of my questions (I send online messages because I have to travel fairly far to visit in person) that I asked have been answered by various assistants, nurses and other people on my "team". The visit with my actual doctor was short and seemed more of an introduction. I went in not knowing what was going on, but knowing what an oncologist does, to being overwhelmed with all this information and then the last thing he said was that it was non-curative and that my goal was life prolongation with quality. After reading more, I do realize there is no cure, but it was all new to me then so I admit I was definitely overwhelmed.

But in doing research I saw that many people had different therapies than I do, especially when it comes to getting surgery in removing the main tumor if it's well-differentiated, so I was wondering if anyone else has an insulinoma and what their treatments are/were?

I also found, on another place/site, that many people were disappointed with my SPECIFIC doctor for not being as thorough or aggressive in fighting this disease as they wanted. However, I don't feel like I have enough information or understanding to directly question anything.

I'm wondering if I should get a second opinion on things or if I should send my information to other places? I don't even know how I would go about doing this either.

All this is new to me. I went from not liking to even take Tylenol for headaches and only going to the hospital to have my babies to taking all these medications and scans that, even though I really try and research and read about, are hard for me to understand. But I am determined to be as knowledgeable as possible and become my own advocate for care. I have 3 young children and I definitely want to fight this as aggressively as possible. I keep a journal for questions to ask when I see him now, I'm going to take a friend with me next time so there's someone else there to listen and, if possible, I'm going to record everything. I've also started organizing my notes, test results, and other doctors and places names, different informative sites etc to try and get a better hold of all this new information. I joined some Facebook groups and have started watching some YouTube events with doctors dealing with NETs, and some videos from the Carcinoid Cancer Foundation.

I guess I'm trying to connect with others with similar situations as I have and see if I'm doing the right thing?

Thank you for reading this novel and for offering any help or information or just anything really.

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Good morning,
My NET is Pancreas to Liver also to numerous to operate, some were over 10 centimeters. My first reaction was the same, let’s cut it out now and get it over with, but apparently it’s in our blood stream too so non surgical therapies are the only option for me and sounds like you.
Mine was found accidentally during surgery for a hernia, no symptoms. My original prognosis was 6 months, that was last April. After 3 hospitals and several doctors I’m at Dana Farber in Boston.
They immediately started me on chemotherapy, FlowFox 5FU for 6 months and a once a month shot of Octreotide. It worked. In the sense that at this point we are all buying time. The chemo isn’t fun, I didn’t get sick but had trouble eating. Everything had a metallic taste also had Neuropathy in my hands and feet.
In June my symptoms started to return, low blood sugar, Tumors on my Liver that were reduced to 4 cm were back to 10cm, but not all came back.
Now I’m on chemo pills, CapTem and octreotide and feeling better. I can tell it’s working sugers are normal.
The tumors on your liver may be why yours sugers are low, it was in my case. Try mixing cornstarch in your food. I mixed it with chocolate pudding and you can’t really taste it. Not a cure but it helps to stabilize your blood sugar.
Make sure your doctor is a NET specialist if not move on to someone else. It is shocking how little some doctors know about NET. I had a doctor in a world renowned hospital tell me last summer “don’t worry, liver failure is painless”. Would you like to participate in an end of life study? I won’t repeat what I said but I’m not ready to start digging the hole yet!
That’s when I literally crossed the street in Boston and went to Dana Farber.
Scans are an important component too. MRI’s will be more accurate than other imaging.
That’s all I can think of right now, that’s the broad strokes of my experience so far. Stay positive and keep fighting. Also important to remember that we all have different NET’s in different stages and types. What treatment works for one person my not work for others.
Good luck and best wishes

Just to clarify one thing, I need to provide read my posts,
I was diagnosed in April of 2022 not last April

@briea

You mentioned that you were thinking about another opinion. I would highly recommend that. You might consider an in-person or virtual consultation with Mayo Clinic. They have three locations. Here is a link to find out more about consultations, http://mayocl.in/1mtmR63.

Another member, @ahtaylor, has a similar diagnosis to yours and she is seen at Mayo (doesn't live nearby and has to travel a good distance to get there) and is quite pleased with her care and treatment.

Will you keep posting and let me know how you are doing?

@briea Welcome to the Mayo Clinic Connect. You will find lots of support and people who have been through some of what you are experiencing. For the initial questions about therapies only - I have had surgery twice. After removal or ablation of 11 insulinomas, there were some that were very small and remained in my pancreas. They have now metastasized to my liver. Presently, they are very small and difficult to locate with imaging so medical treatment is my present only option.
For a second opinion, that is always an option you should consider if you don’t feel your first opinion is in your best interest or if you want to truly just have a second opinion. I was referred to Mayo by my Endocrinologist in NC as a second opinion when they could not find other tumors but the hypoglycemia was persistent. I have been going to Mayo every 6 months (on average) since 2017 and every time I have great care and a great experience!
Keep fighting and advocating for yourself! Please let me know if I can assist further.
I am always happy to have communication by phone, if that helps.
Take care!