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Hi, @cakodra, sometimes the symptoms of PMR are there but the inflammation markers aren't elevated. If this is the case, doctors are advised to exclude possible infection, malignancy, connective tissue or hypothyroidism, and if ruled out, consider a diagnostic trial of corticosteroids, 15 - 20 mg of prednisone. If there is a "dramatic clinical response, it's most likely PMR. If not, they must consider the alternate disorders/diseases. (Cecil and Goldman's Textbook of Medicine, Chapter on PMR and GCA).
I had full blown PMR for about four months, my sed rate was only slightly elevated, and my doc at the time did not put it together. Fast forward about eight months later, my sed rate was 120 and diagnosis of GCA confirmed by temporal artery biopsy. I took Prednisone for about a year and a half and have been off it for about 10 months. I told the Rheumatologist that there is nothing like the pain of PMR.
It may be worth it to ask your doctor to do a diagnostic trial of prednisone, or find someone who will. Good luck and I wish you the best!
Echoing @johnbishop and @tsc, you definitely CAN have PMR or another inflammatory arthritis without elevated inflammatory markers.
It’s less common but it’s not so uncommon that it’s unheard of. Specifically, I have seronegative spondyloarthropathy (I follow this forum because my dad has PMR) which causes inflammation of the entheses (the place where the joints insert into the bone). This causes really bad burning and aching joint pain in large joints such as the shoulders, knees, and heels, though it’s most often in the lower body. My inflammatory markers have never, ever been elevated. It was to the point that Mayo Clinic rheumatologists misdiagnosed me. The pain persisted and eventually I decided with my rheumatologist at home to do a trial of a TNF blocker for this type of arthritis and it helped.
It can be difficult to differentiate between PMR and other inflammatory conditions though, and prednisone is nonspecific, meaning it could quash any type of inflammation and you might not be able to be sure it’s PMR. For that reason, in my experience it’s usually a rheumatologist you’d want to see for an “atypical presentation” of PMR.
My dad has PMR with elevated markers, but his pain pattern was “atypical.” A rheumatologist diagnosed him because we weren’t making any headway with his PCP. Honestly, I got fed up trying to convince him to even consider PMR that we just jumped over him and found a rheumatologist. But I know that’s not an option for everyone, plus there can be a long wait. We got lucky and I found an opening.
I see the others provided you with some resources you might be able to share with your doctor; maybe that would help.
What kind of doctor are you working with, and if it’s not a rheumatologist, do you have an option to try to find one?
Hello @cakodra, I would like to add my welcome to Connect along with @seniormed and others. I would see if you can get a referral to a rheumatologist as soon as you can. Blood work can be normal and you can have PMR.
"Can you have PMR with normal labs?
The diagnosis of PMR is possible, even if ESR and CRP have not increased. US and 18-FDG PET/CT evaluations might increase diagnostic rates of ESR and CRP negative PMR."
--- Polymyalgia Rheumatica (PMR) with Normal Values of Both Erythrocyte Sedimentation Rate (ESR) and C-Reactive Protein (CRP) Concentration at the Time of Diagnosis in a Centenarian Man: A Case Report: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6313638/
There is also another discussion on the topic that might be helpful:
--- PMR with normal blood markers: https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/pmr-with-normal-blood-markers/
You are your best advocate in this case. Can you discuss the trial of steroid treatment as suggested by @seniormed with your doctor or ask for a referral to a rheumatologist?