@jwkelly72 not foolish at all. I cannot get a dentist to pull a single tooth unless it's rotting. I am even up for trying to crown the few that are sharp but no one will. I lack a little extra space and my tongue sits a little higher as I have mild to moderate bony tori. I do not know where to go next. I've seen at least 8 dentists. I am starting to look in another state as I feel like I've been to so many in ND. I dont enjoy doing anything anymore with my kids or hobbies as this has taken over my life. Thank you for your reply!!