Adding Oral Estrogen on Post menopause woman

Posted by sandy0257 @sandy0257, Jul 12, 2023

I’m 66 years old with no breast cancer. Do any of you have experience adding a low dosage oral estrogen to maintain or encourage bone growth?

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@vgkime

Liftmor is a clinical trial from the The Bone Clinic in Australia that had postmenopausal women (some with a history of fractures) lifting very heavy weights (barbells for deadlift) and two other High Intensity strength training exercises for 30 minutes twice a week. At the end of 8 months there was a gain of BMD. The women were supervised by physiotherapists - not personal trainers as they felt they needed the expertise to make sure these women had perfect form first before attempting the deadlifts and that they continued having perfect form. Just google Bone Clinic of Australia or Liftmor for further details. They now have a program called Onero- it is a franchise but I think there are only two of them so far in the US- Pennsylvania and New Jersey.
There are others in this forum or the Inspire forum who have reported on using personal trainers for the same exercises or personal trainers for using machines at the gym, with success in increasing BMD.
The BEST clinical trial used the machines at a gym.

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Thanks for the info on heavy weights👍

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@sandy0257

What is considered serious osteoporosis? Anything 3.00 and over for this hips? What about the spine?

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3.5 for the spine.

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Can you confirm what is severe for the hips?

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My older sister who is 74 has been on a low-dose estradiol patch since menopause and does not have osteoporosis.
I was diagnosed with osteoporosis in my spine two yrs into menopause. I was not on estrogen. Estrogen helps stop bone loss.
Also, Strontium Citrate is a supplement that has been shown to build bone density.
Much safer than prescription
bone meds.

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@chp2023

My older sister who is 74 has been on a low-dose estradiol patch since menopause and does not have osteoporosis.
I was diagnosed with osteoporosis in my spine two yrs into menopause. I was not on estrogen. Estrogen helps stop bone loss.
Also, Strontium Citrate is a supplement that has been shown to build bone density.
Much safer than prescription
bone meds.

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Now, that’s great news!! Exactly! Much safer!

Thank you!

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@sandy0257

Now, that’s great news!! Exactly! Much safer!

Thank you!

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Check out the Coombs and MOTS clinical trials regarding the efficacy of Strontium Citrate plus micronutrients used together.

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@rhondat23

I have added estrogen and progestrone together. Based on recommendations from my gyno. However, my bone specialist says it does not realy help with severe osteoporosis

My encronoligist says it helps prevents heart attacks. Since Evenity has been black boxed because of potential heart attacks, I have elected to stay on the estrogen and progesterone.

I don't think anyone really knows at this point.

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Yes I'm on bioidentical HRT low dose and I think its just one piece of the protocol to aid your bones- I think it stops bone loss at least, but for severe osteoporosis you must do much more such as strength training. Also, per the Coombs and Mots clinical trials strontium citrate with micronutrients is shown to positively affect BMD and Bone quality (trabecular bone).

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@sandy0257

What is considered serious osteoporosis? Anything 3.00 and over for this hips? What about the spine?

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-2.5 or over is severe osteoporosis. My spine is -3.1. I'm only 58 years old.

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@sandy0257

What is considered serious osteoporosis? Anything 3.00 and over for this hips? What about the spine?

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3.5 for the spin for severe osteoporosis

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@judy58

I just got a supply estrogen patch from my doctor. I know there are risks, but made risks with osteoporosis drugs. I took only estrogen patch for 30 yrs as I had a hysterectomy at 70. I had no side effects with the patch. I went off it but did not have severe osteoporosis then. Now I do, and will take a small dose. I know it won’t rebuild bones, but hopefully maintain what I have. I also am doing weights and exercises, plus calcium and vitamins. I hope I have made the right decision by not taking Evenity or other suggestions from my doctor. Let’s hope I don’t fall.

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Watch "Why your estrogen matters" on youtube and read "Hormone Replacement Skin Patches Don’t Raise Risk for Blood Clots" in the New York Times 2019

I can't post links as a newly registered user.
Cheers.

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