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Has anyone improved bone density without meds?

Posted by naomid @naomid, Mar 21, 2023

I have a very problematic dental history and will continue to need additional root canals and implants. I also have Sjogren's Syndrome and want to avoid any drugs that cause rheumatic symptoms. Other issues in my health history make all of the meds risky for me. That said, I work out almost daily, lift weights, maintain a healthy diet, take all the recommended supplements, and get most of my calcium nutritionally. My endocrinologist wants me to take an infusion/injectable drug. I dread the side-effects, yet I'm afraid of fracturing, which hasn't happened over the many years I have had osteoporosis. That said, my numbers are getting worse (-3.2 spine, -3.1 hip). I need to do something more than I've been doing, and am at a loss. I need hope and solutions I can be at peace with. Thanks for any comments or suggestions!

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trathfon62 | @trathfon62 | Jul 13, 2023
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@cpd54

😯 you’re lucky to have that close to you. I’d “jump” all over that!!! I’m preaching to my 20 something year old granddaughters to do preventative things now to prevent them
from having to deal osteoporosis.

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Hi,
Currently I am driving two hours each way to go to OsteoStrong. I have really enjoyed it but I won’t know if my bone density has increased until
I have another Dexascan in November ( hopefully) Insurance probably won’t cover it after a year but I would be happy to pay for my own. I think that’s quite a scam. A lot can happen in two years.

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cpd54 | @cpd54 | Jul 13, 2023
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@trathfon62

Hi,
Currently I am driving two hours each way to go to OsteoStrong. I have really enjoyed it but I won’t know if my bone density has increased until
I have another Dexascan in November ( hopefully) Insurance probably won’t cover it after a year but I would be happy to pay for my own. I think that’s quite a scam. A lot can happen in two years.

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@trathfon62 since you’re actually doing the osteostrong, would you tell me a little about it? I’ve read the website and get that it’s isometric. Do you hold each pose for 30 seconds or longer? I’d have to drive 4 hours one way to try one.

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pamie | @pamie | Jul 13, 2023
In reply to @cpd54 "@melia7 where are you purchasing the Osteopor? I have hydroxyapatite but I have problems finding it..." + (show)
@cpd54

@melia7 where are you purchasing the Osteopor? I have hydroxyapatite but I have problems finding it even.

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I would like to know where to get Osteopro also

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melia7 | @melia7 | Jul 13, 2023

to cpd54:
I only learnt about the existence of osteopor recently and started to explore it. Hope to get this information in few days and then put the link here.

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vgkime | @vgkime | Jul 13, 2023
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@judy58

What does your doctor say about estrogen patch? I had early menopause at forty and was on the patch for thirty yrs. Now off for a few yrs and severe osteoporosis. All the other choices are frightening!!

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Hello I was just diagnosed with osteoporosis and my ND put me on bioidentical HRT- a patch . I have heard you must keep on it for life or you will lose bone rapidly just like the first years after menopause. One of the best ways to build bone is through strength training. Look up the Liftmor trials and the BEST trials. Its encouraging! My ND also made sure I didn't have underlying problems and found that I had pancreatic enzyme deficiency ( due to a gastro surgery) So now I am on pancreatic enzymes. Like everyone else I recommend reading Dr. McCormick's new book Great Bones.

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ans | @ans | Jul 13, 2023
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@cpd54

@trathfon62 since you’re actually doing the osteostrong, would you tell me a little about it? I’ve read the website and get that it’s isometric. Do you hold each pose for 30 seconds or longer? I’d have to drive 4 hours one way to try one.

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To those considering Osteostrong. It sounds very good - just a short time working out , using maximum weights….. however CAUTION!!! As people have fractured using this program. I don’t know your age, your circumstances, but I would investigate it more before engaging in this program. I read a comment that someone was recommending it to their granddaughters…. Now for them it may be safe and beneficial for those in their 20’s. But for people with osteoporosis, in all my reading it says to stay away from this program. Do your own research so you are convinced. Be safe!!

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mariecarder | @mariecarder | Jul 13, 2023
In reply to @windyshores "@mariecarder Tymlos and Evenity do not cause dental or jaw problems, and may even help with..." + (show)
@windyshores

@mariecarder Tymlos and Evenity do not cause dental or jaw problems, and may even help with healing. Evenity is better than Prolia or bisphosphonates in this regard too. With a -3.4 score you should not be on any of the drugs that affect jaws (anti-resorptives) but should be on a bone builder, probably Tymlos or Forteo since you have jaw issues already. Do you have an endocrinologist?

@sandy0257 you probably know that the bisphosphonates and Prolia have the effects you describe, but not Tymlos or Foorteo.

I chose Tymlos because the dose is adjustable so I could ramp up. Forteo was not easy to tolerate the one time I tried it but many take it without problems.

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Thank you so much!

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sandy0257 | @sandy0257 | Jul 14, 2023
In reply to @cpd54 "@melia7 where are you purchasing the Osteopor? I have hydroxyapatite but I have problems finding it..." + (show)
@cpd54

@melia7 where are you purchasing the Osteopor? I have hydroxyapatite but I have problems finding it even.

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I can’t find any articles on google regarding that medication. Do you know where I can find out more information?

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thisnthat | @thisnthat | Jul 14, 2023
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@barbakp

If you search on YouTube for Fishman yoga in chair, there are multiple sites showing the poses. Also Dr Fishman has videos where he addresses the length of time to hold (at least 30 seconds.. no less)… also he had no idea if any one exercise is “the one”, but his research shows the system works if done AT THE VERY LEAST every other day.
I thought I could no more do some of those poses than fly…BUT here we are 6 months later and I am shocked!
Inflammation is so depressing.. I would get so so sad … but increasing my protein, eliminating ALL highly processed food especially added sugar and alcohol.. I have really improved my arthritis pain. It is letting me really do strength work (slowly).. but at least it is something!
Any video by Dr Robert Lustig about sugar ( in your diet snd the animals we eat) was eye opening and changed my direction. I credit the changes with over all gains. They are worth your time.
Blessings….

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I would steer clear of Dr. Fishman and his yoga poses, having discussed this with my physical therapist. I too thought the poses might be part of The Answer! ☹️

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cpd54 | @cpd54 | Jul 14, 2023
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@sandy0257

I can’t find any articles on google regarding that medication. Do you know where I can find out more information?

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@sandy0257 -
Are you referring to the Osteopor? No idea where to find it and can’t find any info on it either. The hydroxyapatite is ground up grass fed New Zeland cow bones. I ordered mine from
https://woodstockvitamins.com/search-results/?q=Hydroxyapatite%20. It is supposedly the best absorbed calcium. But I had a friend who died from mad cow disease and haven’t talked myself into taking it yet.

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