Law59, I’ve been doing the box breathing exercise and it does help. I find stress plays a major role in acting up my physical symptoms of pain. Or pain acts up the stress. —what come first chicken or egg? However looking back on myself when younger I do see the pain came first . I don’t know if it’s possible to have pain w/o stress or anxiety. Then comes the worries. Will it go away or at least get under control for awhile, what will I do if I can’t go to that wedding or a friend’s birthday party? I even missed my grandmothers funeral and some of my family has never forgiven me …still. Pain changed my life. The saying “what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger. Yes, in some cases but not all. Anyway, just wanted to thank you for explaining the simple method of breathing. It does help!