Feeling discouraged and too many specialists

Posted by phoebeghostwriter @phoebeghostwriter, Jan 19, 2022

I’m feeling so defeated tonight. While waiting for my Mayo Clinic appointment, I have continued to lose muscle mass in my arms and legs. I’m bruising easily and the night sweats are unbearable. I have a pain in stomach waking me at night and my oxygen level is dipping. My potassium level dropped and I was given potassium pills at the ER. My blood work came back with low lymphs and high hepcritin. I went to a neuroendocrinologist at Mass General today in hopes that he could at lease get the ball rolling as one of my first symptoms was high cortisol on a previous 24 urine. However I also had elevated 5HIAA back in December but my local Dr thought it wasn’t too out of range then. So I expected more from Harvard. More digging. More expertise. More action. He was only interested in my pituitary. When mentioned my other NET related symptoms he wanted to refer me to a GI doctor. I made a huge mistake. I thought even if we are not sure if it was a suspicious mircoandenoma with MRI he would at least. Run other tests. He said he is only pituitary and did nothing other than give my another urine and more of the same labs not a single NET blood test. He said Cushing takes months to diagnose. He ignored and didn’t even refer me to a NET specialist.No help. No scans. No Care. I don’t know what to do.

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Neuroendocrine Tumors (NETs) Support Group.

The best thing you can do is stay on top of the dr. appointments and try to be fully involved in any treatment decisions. Make sure you are having serial imaging (Pet Scan every 3-4 months). I have an endocrinologist plus an oncologist and the oncologist makes the big decisions. The endocrinologist monitors the hormones, making dosage adjustments along the way, but doesn’t really get involved with the cancer in general. The oncologist I see every 4 weeks and we go over Pet Scans, subsequent MRI’s etc. Please know that neuroendocrine cancers are generally slow progressing. I had a 10cm tumor removed along with the left kidney and adrenal gland in late 2016 at City Of Hope and now almost 7 years later am still hanging in there.
God bless you ☀️☀️☀️

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@gsm13161

The best thing you can do is stay on top of the dr. appointments and try to be fully involved in any treatment decisions. Make sure you are having serial imaging (Pet Scan every 3-4 months). I have an endocrinologist plus an oncologist and the oncologist makes the big decisions. The endocrinologist monitors the hormones, making dosage adjustments along the way, but doesn’t really get involved with the cancer in general. The oncologist I see every 4 weeks and we go over Pet Scans, subsequent MRI’s etc. Please know that neuroendocrine cancers are generally slow progressing. I had a 10cm tumor removed along with the left kidney and adrenal gland in late 2016 at City Of Hope and now almost 7 years later am still hanging in there.
God bless you ☀️☀️☀️

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That is very encouraging. Thank you. 🙏🏻

I'm a little sensitive right now, because my favorite cousin has an invasive abdominal cancer they are still trying to figure out. They took a gallon of fluid off her abdomen earlier this past week. Waiting on results of biopsies.

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I was just diagnosed with a neoendrocine tumor Iy pancreas. Two doctors (UCSF and Stanford) have very different surgical approaches. I'm scared and confused.

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@chana

I was just diagnosed with a neoendrocine tumor Iy pancreas. Two doctors (UCSF and Stanford) have very different surgical approaches. I'm scared and confused.

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Hello @chana and welcome to the NETs support group on Mayo Connect. I can understand that you are scared and confused. NETs are a rare disorder, and it is always confusing when you have two different surgical approaches presented to you.

Were you given good reasons for both surgical options? I would like to invite @californiazebra to this discussion as she has been treated in California as well. Perhaps she can shed some light on your situation.

Share, as you are comfortable doing so, how this NET was discovered. Were you having symptoms? You mentioned that your NET is on the pancreas. Are you have problems with your blood sugar as well?

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@hopeful33250

Hello @chana and welcome to the NETs support group on Mayo Connect. I can understand that you are scared and confused. NETs are a rare disorder, and it is always confusing when you have two different surgical approaches presented to you.

Were you given good reasons for both surgical options? I would like to invite @californiazebra to this discussion as she has been treated in California as well. Perhaps she can shed some light on your situation.

Share, as you are comfortable doing so, how this NET was discovered. Were you having symptoms? You mentioned that your NET is on the pancreas. Are you have problems with your blood sugar as well?

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Hi @chana

Sorry to hear about your new diagnosis. I see you are seeking treatment in Northern CA. I'm in Southern CA being treated at UCLA so I have no experience with treatment at the facilities you mentioned. I have lung NETs which can be treated differently than pancreatic NETs so those with pancreatic NETs may be better suited to address your specific questions about treatment options.

I would like to recommend LACNETS.org which is a NETs organization with a lot of presentations posted from various NETs specialists. They also have a lot of other resources at their disposal. LACNETS does not provide treatment. They are dedicated to NETs patient education and support.
https://www.lacnets.org/newlydiagnosed
You might want to watch the video "What is NET?"

There are other resources for the newly diagnosed on this page as well. The program director of LACNETS, Lisa Yen, her husband actually has pancreatic NET for 8 years now so she could be a great resource as well. I received an email from her when I first reached out. She's also a nurse practitioner.

You'll find that with NETs the treatment sequence can vary greatly by patient depending on case details. Here are some general thoughts about surgery from a NETs surgeon in Colorado.


Dr. Eric Liu The Role of Surgery in Neuroendocrine Cancer - 2 min. video.
https://www.lacnets.org/podcast22
Here is a podcast about pancreatic NETs -- all Q&A. One of the questions is when should a pancreatic tumor be removed. I'm listening to it right now as I type -- good stuff.

I hope you'll find some of this helpful. You're wise to seek more than one opinion, but definitely use NETs specialists that are part of a multidisciplinary team as general medical oncologists are not familiar with NETs. Pancreatic NETs will be treated differently than the more common pancreatic cancer and typically has a better prognosis. You may have heard recently that actress Maria Menounos announced she has survived pancreatic cancer. What most news sources failed to mention, is she actually had pancreatic NET not your typical pancreatic cancer. Yay!!!

Ask the NETs specialists to explain their rationale for the treatment sequence they are recommending. If two NETs specialists disagree, maybe you'll want a third opinion. They may be willing to do that virtually if they have your records in hand.

NETs is typically a more slow growing type of cancer which is good news for us! We discovered my 50+ lung tumors 15 years ago and I had all the respiratory symptoms for 30+ years before diagnosis, yet here I am. As they say, "It's a marathon, not a sprint" so expect to be around a long time with your new NETs family. Hugs, Zebra

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@hopeful33250

Hello @chana and welcome to the NETs support group on Mayo Connect. I can understand that you are scared and confused. NETs are a rare disorder, and it is always confusing when you have two different surgical approaches presented to you.

Were you given good reasons for both surgical options? I would like to invite @californiazebra to this discussion as she has been treated in California as well. Perhaps she can shed some light on your situation.

Share, as you are comfortable doing so, how this NET was discovered. Were you having symptoms? You mentioned that your NET is on the pancreas. Are you have problems with your blood sugar as well?

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Yes. My A1c is very low, suggesting hypoglycemia, yet glucose indicates prebdiabets. I eat very healthy, sugar consumption comes from a little fruit and very few carbs

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@chana

Yes. My A1c is very low, suggesting hypoglycemia, yet glucose indicates prebdiabets. I eat very healthy, sugar consumption comes from a little fruit and very few carbs

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@chana

Do you doctors think that the difference between the low A1C and the higher glucose numbers is caused by the NET on the pancreas?

Also, in a previous post, you mentioned that one surgeon wanted to remove the spleen. Is that correct? Did the doctor give you reason for this?

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@hopeful33250

@chana

Do you doctors think that the difference between the low A1C and the higher glucose numbers is caused by the NET on the pancreas?

Also, in a previous post, you mentioned that one surgeon wanted to remove the spleen. Is that correct? Did the doctor give you reason for this?

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That was the first doctor. He said that's how it's done. He also said I wouldn't need chemo. I tend to lean toward the doctor who chooses to keep my spleen and attach it to the blood vessels of my stomach. I've tried to contact both surgeons, but their gatekeepers make it impossible.

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