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Permanent Sibo due to ileocecal valve removal

Digestive Health | Last Active: Nov 26, 2023 | Replies (7)

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Thank you for your comments and insight. The surgery that I had in 2021 was done by a different Doctor that I am seeing now i was unhappy after the surgery about the quality of care i was getting so i went about to find a new doctor and it wasn't until I saw this new gi Doctor and he performed a colonoscopy in August of 2022 that this Doctor told me for the first time to my knowledge that my surgery was done unusually done and that I didn't have a ileocecal valve anymore I was stunned to find out this information I was never told prior to this that the valve was removed. But I am not sure about the connection being flush I have a appointment in two weeks I will definitely ask him about that. When I saw my gi in April he did mention that surgery was another option but we didn't dive deeper into it at the time but it's looking like it might be my only option. I am tired of just not being able to eat even a slice of gluten free bread I basically drink all of my meals except for the cream of rice and lactose free milk and soy milk. This has bin going on for almost two years now like you say it's about the quality of life and right now it's terrible so I hope I can get to some solution even if it means having another surgery.

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Thanks for the response, and good on you for fighting for a better doctor and better treatment.

I would be very interested to hear what your doctor has to say about your colonoscopy done 10-11 months ago. My anastamosis (reconnection) was done "side-to-side", which is a relatively old-fashioned way of doing it. There are certainly pro's and cons to doing it one way or the other, but in my case the con was that the excess intestine again left a big flap - not saying it's the case for you, but something to keep in mind.

Another thing to keep in mind is that it took THREE colonoscopies post surgery for a doctor to stop and say "hey this is kind of weird, you don't usually see this and I do 10+ colonoscopies of Crohn-ies a week". They typically go in, see zero inflammation, and call it a day - only because I was having recurrent issues did my doctor stop and snoop around, so to speak.

Again, I would urge you to find out exactly what was "atypical" about your anastamosis, and whether it may lead to these issues. And if your doctor starts talking about surgery, I would shop around and get second and third opinions and find a surgeon you're most comfortable with, even if he or she does not work directly with your doctor. (In retrospect, I was probably pressured to go with the surgeon my doctor wanted even though I had vague misgivings, but I was 23 years old and no one in my family had ever been sick like this, so I did not know any better. )

As far as quality of life goes, have you considered going a more meat based diet? I have no ideological disposition towards any diet being "healthier", but "scientifically" limiting complex carbs seems to help the best with SIBO.

Unfortunately, gluten-free bread doesn't cut it because it's still loaded with complex carbs that the bacteria like to munch on. For me, I make 2-3 lbs of ground beef (a mixture of 85 and 90%) with just enough plain tomato sauce to taste (add more salt than you think you need, it's not gonna kill you), and divide it into 4 - 7 meals depending. I add just enough white pasta to get the texture acceptable - certainly possible to eat the beef on its own and many people do, but it becomes a small chore after a while.

It's not perfect but it certainly is loads better than the terrible issues I get with rice or potatoes. For some reason, when you cool down rice and potatoes, the starches recrystallize and become more "resilient". This is good if you're trying to lose weight (there is a dietician out there who puts his patients on a reheated-potato-only diet to good success), but terrible if you're trying not to starve bacteria. White pasta does not crystallize the same, I have found.

Give it a shot, or happy to further brainstorm with you. Good luck and keep me updated if you want.

Best,
G