Only bone broth and gluten free bread for several weeks, any suggestio

Posted by sunshine2023 @sunshine2023, Mar 7, 2023

Only been able to eat bone broth and gluten free bread for almost two weeks. Problems for about month. Has anyone had to eat such a limited diet? If I eat more gluten rice and banana for like 3 meals, then after 3rd meal, have constant pain for 18 hours as food moves through system. If I eat more food, I would have loose stools. Is there any tips from moving from bread and broth to real food? Do you only take a few small bites each meal to reintroduce each meal and see if it settles?

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What are the ingredients in your bread? I have the same problem, but I found out that there is milk in my GF bread. There are oils too, which could be suspect for me. A few years ago, I had massive diarrhea and it was all because of butter and cheese. I've had some problems like that in the past, but didn't think of it being dairy. I now exactly what you are going through. Sometimes I feel like I'm allergic to everything. its a very lonely existence because we feel so alone with our problem. and we can't eat out or eat very much at a potluck or family gathering. We have to fill up before we leave the house. But what can we eat. It's never black ad white. Its a lot of mystery. Knowing we can share here helps. Recently I tried "Danish Butter". Oh, it was miserable. I'm still not quite over it. I was even thinking CANCER. I am so happy I reminded myself of the Danish Butter. So may people travel to Europe and can have dairy products there., but not home in the USA. It isn't always Lactose Intolerance. It can be food preservatives; look for ingediants that start with PHOS. If you can't pronounce, or spell it, or you don't know what it is, don't eat it. Processed foods are rarely in my diet. This is not an easy life. But it is what it is and we have to deal with it. Our Food Makers here in the USA, including, but not limited to Dairy, they put stuff in our food here that other countries would go to jail for. They have strict laws and strict testing over there so that they don't harm their citizens. I have made a lot of mistakes in my eating plans. I keep trying not to hurt myself. I'll get better at it. Never give up. Best wishes to you in finding out what is going on, and having food you can eat.

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Some people can’t have bone broth because of histamines. Do you think this may be your problem? Also could the seasoning in the bone broth be upsetting you, ie onions, garlic?

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Please try more natural! Meds aren’t always the best answer. Alkaline water, aloe gel ( only 100% aloe. Also a quality probiotic. Meditate and many prayers🙏

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I often tell people I can eat "15 things." Most of these things are zero or trace FODMAP food items, per the Monash tests/app. I don't' know if zero or trace FODMAP food items would help you. I cannot eat commercial gluten-free bread but I do make my own trace/zero FODMAP bread. Happy to share more details if you think it might be something you would like to know more about. Everyone's gut seems to be so different. Hang in there.

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Sorry cannot help as have had similar issues since pelvic radiation years ago.. so tired of keeping lists of what i ate and still not able to find what gives me problems - not sure if different FODMAP diets are all the same, but tried for 2 weeks and was worst yet, but that was a few years ago, and included things like barley, turnip etc. I agree, cooking, eating, company is so pleasant or used to be now its worry worry worry. Even my home made soup I have cramps and runs day after (i have history of ibsD and c.diff and F.I.) ... but I wanted to give an example here of such a surprise when husband got wrong type of little packages of oats last week: I thought the packets in box just contained oats and i did cook with water and 2 per cent milk... as I tipped the little package into saucepan I saw white powder - husband said oh probably just oat powder - i tasted and it was SALT. Well I know the true Scottish oats are cooked with salt but didnt expect it to be already in this, and what if allergic to;
so read the Box the packages came in:
INGREDIENTS: Whole grain rolled oats, Whey protein concentrate, Whey protein, Whole grain oat flour, Calcium carbonate, Salt, Soy lecithin. Then right under that it reads:
Contains Oats, Milk, Soy. May contain wheat.
But..... inside on the little packages you tear open it only reads:
Contains Oats, Milk, Soy
May contain: Wheat

So am I missing something here and are other food products in packs that contain smaller packages.... shouldn't the ingredients be the same on the box that contain the little packages and vice versa? What if someone gets the little package which seems ok but the box it came in lists more ingredients.
For those of us who cannot eat certain things, I try and remember to read the ingredients on the box and on the individual servings inside... this isn't the best example but never expected salt to be included. And how can they list Milk as an ingredient when its OATS.
Maybe I am overthinking this?

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@researchmaven

I often tell people I can eat "15 things." Most of these things are zero or trace FODMAP food items, per the Monash tests/app. I don't' know if zero or trace FODMAP food items would help you. I cannot eat commercial gluten-free bread but I do make my own trace/zero FODMAP bread. Happy to share more details if you think it might be something you would like to know more about. Everyone's gut seems to be so different. Hang in there.

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Do you mind sharing your bread recipe? Thank you.

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The bread recipe is easy, but what I baked is a bit derived. Here is the story. A company in Malibu, CA, Real Coconut Kitchen, supposedly makes a plantain flour bread; however, I couldn't order a sample on their website (for some reason), but I noted the ingredients on their sales page.

I googled for the ingredients list and found a similar recipe that only required a few ingredients to be changed for my dietary limitations and preferences.

The recipe that was similar is from a A Beautiful Mess website. The link to that recipe is https://abeautifulmess.com/easy-gluten-free-and-vegan-bread/#wprm-recipe-container-59872.

I have to say, my derived bread turned out so much better, then that site's photo of their bread

THESE ARE MY SUBSTITUTIONS:

LiveKuna brand organic green plantain flour for the gluten-free flour.

Azure Market Organic Pea Protein Powder for the buckwheat flour.

Black chia seeds for the White chia seeds

Maple Syrup instead of honey or agave

Omitted the xanthum gum

Used my milk of choice

THESE ARE MY PROCESS CHANGES:

I added the 1 cup warm water to the chia seeds first off, so the chia seeds would expand and get thick.

I then had to add more water when everything was added, due to above process change, but I kept the dough thick. I did not turn it into a batter.

I kneaded the dough quite a bit, in a bowl, with my hand. At least 6 minutes, but I didn't time it. I kneaded until I thought the dough held together. I think kneading is important.

It was a sticky dough that I could shape fairly well; it wasn't a batter.

I let it rise 60-70 minutes in my oven on the "proof setting." Just turning the oven light on may be enough though. I also added a small bowl of water so the environment would be moist.

I put the sticky oval in a bread pan and then in my preheated toaster oven. I baked it for close to the recipe's time, using the recipe's temperature. I tested it with a meat thermometer. I got close to 200F.

It is so good. Crisp crust. The bread doesn't crumble. It is dense and I usually toast it.

At some point, I will try these "gluten-free bread tips" to see if I can get a fluffier bread, but I am so excited to finally have some real bread that is actually delicious, I am in no hurry.

Here is the site for the tips for fluffier gluten-free bread:
https://www.moysglutenfreekitchen.com/post/tips-and-techniques-to-make-better-gluten-free-bread
By the way, I am a confident, health-leaning baker. Feel free to ask me any questions and good luck!

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@lacy2

Sorry cannot help as have had similar issues since pelvic radiation years ago.. so tired of keeping lists of what i ate and still not able to find what gives me problems - not sure if different FODMAP diets are all the same, but tried for 2 weeks and was worst yet, but that was a few years ago, and included things like barley, turnip etc. I agree, cooking, eating, company is so pleasant or used to be now its worry worry worry. Even my home made soup I have cramps and runs day after (i have history of ibsD and c.diff and F.I.) ... but I wanted to give an example here of such a surprise when husband got wrong type of little packages of oats last week: I thought the packets in box just contained oats and i did cook with water and 2 per cent milk... as I tipped the little package into saucepan I saw white powder - husband said oh probably just oat powder - i tasted and it was SALT. Well I know the true Scottish oats are cooked with salt but didnt expect it to be already in this, and what if allergic to;
so read the Box the packages came in:
INGREDIENTS: Whole grain rolled oats, Whey protein concentrate, Whey protein, Whole grain oat flour, Calcium carbonate, Salt, Soy lecithin. Then right under that it reads:
Contains Oats, Milk, Soy. May contain wheat.
But..... inside on the little packages you tear open it only reads:
Contains Oats, Milk, Soy
May contain: Wheat

So am I missing something here and are other food products in packs that contain smaller packages.... shouldn't the ingredients be the same on the box that contain the little packages and vice versa? What if someone gets the little package which seems ok but the box it came in lists more ingredients.
For those of us who cannot eat certain things, I try and remember to read the ingredients on the box and on the individual servings inside... this isn't the best example but never expected salt to be included. And how can they list Milk as an ingredient when its OATS.
Maybe I am overthinking this?

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Most FODMAP-listed foods are low FODMAP only and then only at a certain, usually smallish quantity. Eat too much of a low FODMAP food and it is no longer low FODMAP. A few of the Monash-listed foods are zero or trace FODMAP. That is what I focus on. That being said, I can't eat them all. Riffing off the Monash app list helped immensely.

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I have a distant cousin who recently started breaking out in hives after eating. She is in her mid twenties. She dowloaded the “Yuka” app. She said our food is killing us. I have not dowloaded and explored the app.

We have so many preservatives in our foods .. I don't think our bodies can handle them. As I have aged … soon to be 72 … I itch and break out in rashes more than I used to. So far no hives. My husband started making bread that is half whole wheat and that has actually helped. He is the cook now and got a bread machine. I think the preservatives in store bought bread is a problem for me. He grinds the wheat himself but not the white bread flour. All whole wheat is too much for my small stomach.

I have had to have stomach surgery .. lost parts of it. Had to have gastric bypass to solve a hiatal hernia problem. Had complications. My pouch (where food is digested) is about the size of a large egg. … it has not expanded with time. I have to eat often and a little at a time. I cannot eat raw foods at all .. except a ripe banana and I usually cannot get a whole one down. One slice of this homemade bread is a meal. I ate a half slice this morning .. just plain. My downfall is I can eat crackers … full of preservatives. .. but they digest well. … they make me itch. I need to do better. But I love Ritz and Graham Crackers.

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Bananas for most people is stool softener. Cooked rice and yogurt is also good for diarrhea. Have you tried IBGard? You can buy it on Amazon. Has a green box. 15,000 reviews say it helped them. Look it up and read ingredients and reviews see if it can help you or you might have allergies to its ingredients. Good Luck.

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